Jewish / Judaism : Proselytism, part 1 of 4

Christians are not attempting to get Jews to forsake Judaism and convert to another religion. Rather, Christianity is the New Covenant phase of Judaism. Therefore it is Gentiles who are converting to Judaism in order to become Christians. Judaism phase two, if you will, is Judaism according to the New Covenant according to the Messiah’s Torah (see the essay Will the Messiah Institute New Commandments?).

According to the New Covenant Christians are commanded to preach the gospel and make “disciples” (notice that they are not commanded to make “converts”). How odd it is to say to Christians that they should not do so? Who would ever dream of telling a Jew that they should not keep kosher? Or tell a Muslim that they should not make a pilgrimage to Mecca? Or tell a Buddhist not to meditate?

Yet, when it comes to Christians obeying the commandments that were given to them many feel free to suppress them or call them intolerant. Of course, it is not difficult to understand why this is. After all, keeping kosher, making a pilgrimage and meditating do not necessarily interfere with the lives of others. Yet, regardless of this; the fact is that whether Christian proselytizers call your lifestyle into question, make you feel guilty about the way you are living or just annoy you, they are none the less being faithful to their calling.

Some Jews say that Jewish-Christians should not proselytize because Jews do not proselytize. This appears to be a double edged sword since on the one hand Jews seem to be saying, “Since you are Jewish you should act Jewish and not proselytize.” Yet, on the other hand they want to say, “You are no longer Jewish, you are Christian.” What then is the problem with them proselytizing?

The real question is, “Why would anyone not proselytize?” The point being that if a person honestly believe that their worldview, philosophy, ideal, theology or religion is really the way to go, that it is enriching their lives and getting them right with God, why then would they not tell others about it? Can such a person truly be thought of as “good”? How could they find such a treasure, be so satisfied with it, and go on to keep it a secret?

In this context; Alexander Cruden defined “Proselyte” thusly:

“This term comes from the Greek word, Proselytos, which signifies a stranger, one that comes from abroad, or from another place. The Hebrew word Ger or Necher, has the same signification. It means a convert to Judaism from among the Gentiles.
The Talmud distinguishes between Proselytes of the Gate, and Proselytes of Righteousness. The first are those who dwelt in the land of Israel and were not bound by circumcision. The tern is derived from the expression the stranger that is within thy gates, Ex 20:10, etc.”1

The Encyclopedia Judaica makes the following observation (13:1182-1183):

“There is ample evidence of a widespread conversion to Judaism during the period of the Second Temple, especially the latter part of the period_Unique, as the only case of forced conversion in Judaism, was the mass conversion of the Edomites by John Hyrcanus. In addition to these outstanding figures, however, it is obvious that proselytism was widespread among the ordinary people_
The near pride which the rabbis took in the claim that some of their greatest figures were descended from proselytes_points to an openhanded policy toward their acceptance.”

Rabbi Solomon Luria (1510-1573) wrote,

“Under the present conditions, when we live in a country that is not ours, like slaves under the rod of a master, if a Jew encourages someone to convert to Judaism he becomes a rebel against the government, subject to the death penalty_.
Therefore, I caution anyone against being a party to such activity when the law of the state forbids it, for he thereby forfeits his life.”2

Rabbi Joseph Telushkin,

“Why has the Jewish reluctance to seek converts persisted in America’s far more tolerant climate? One reason may well be inertia. A millennium-long attitude is not easily broken. A second, perhaps more important reason is that many, if not most, American Jews are more secular and ethnic than religious; they hardly are prone to encourage conversion to a religion which they themselves seldom practice.”3

John Bowker,

“Abraham’s reception of the angels became the basis for one of his most famous characteristics, his hospitality: ‘By opening a generous door to travelers you have opened to proselytes’ [Ber. R. xlviii. 8].”4

The Talmud-Pesachim 87b states

“Rabbi Elazar ben Pedat taught: The Holy One, Blessed be He, exiled Israel among the nations only for the purpose of gaining converts.”

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Read the article about which Gary Habermas, PhD (Distinguished Research Professor & Chair of the Department of Philosophy at Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary) said, “I have hung on to it since you sent it, & plan to keep doing so”: Historical Jesus – Two Centuries Worth of Citations.

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Read the article about which Gary Habermas, PhD (Distinguished Research Professor & Chair of the Department of Philosophy at Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary) said, “I have hung on to it since you sent it, & plan to keep doing so”: Historical Jesus – Two Centuries Worth of Citations.

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Freethought Without Forethought? (8 Part Series)

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Read the article about which Gary Habermas, PhD (Distinguished Research Professor & Chair of the Department of Philosophy at Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary) said, “I have hung on to it since you sent it, & plan to keep doing so”: Historical Jesus – Two Centuries Worth of Citations.

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Aleister Crowley’s influence on Elijah Blue Allman and Sean Avery

Having written much about Aleister Crowley and his influence upon pop-occulture I will herein continue considering personages who have looked to the to mega therion / the great beast for inspiration. Find our previous articles on Crowley here—which range from L. Ron Hubbard’s Scientology to Damien Echols (of the West Memphis Three-WM3 murders infamy) and much, much more.

The following is from Eric Spitznagel’s interview with Sean Avery (“Sean Avery is not a Monster: He’s a Jedi Ninja,” Vanity Fair, June 12 2009 AD):

So your life has become like an adolescent boy’s daydreams? I know that doesn’t really make any sense at all. But I’m at a point in my life where I’ve accepted that I’m not going to be completely understood. Right now, it’s like a crazy Aleister Crowley book that you can’t really understand.

Wait, what? Aleister Crowley?

You read it and he’s trying to explain something that’s so unexplainable at this point to me. I don’t understand it, but I’m trying to figure it out. I’ll figure it out someday, and then I’m gonna write a book about how to channel your anger.

And if the Crowley comparisons continue, I assume there’ll be a little black magick in there, too.

You never know. (Laughs.)”

The following is from Evgenia Peretz’s interview with Elijah Blue Allman (“Sons and Daughters Born to Be Wild,” Vanity Fair, November 2001 AD):
Elijah Blue Allman (musician son of Cher and her second husband Gregg Allman):

“As the son of Allman and the icon Cher, Elijah Blue had to develop what he calls ‘my serious ownness to be able to survive in this world.’ With that in mind, he lost himself in the work of British occultist Aleister Crowley, an obsession that begat the band Deadsy, which represents a brand-new movement in music Elijah calls ‘undercore.’ If you have two weeks, Elijah could explain it all to you. But on this summer afternoon at the Chateau Marmont in Hollywood, he breaks it down in just an hour, with the help of his friend and manager, Josh Richman.
‘The band is separated into five entities,’ says Elijah, boiling with intensity beneath his tall, blond, reserved exterior. ‘There’s War, Leisure, Academia, Horror, and—’ ‘Medicine,’ interrupts Richman…‘And, as says the manifesto, these things, we think, are five kind of cornerstones, or whatever you want to call it, that we can kind of express all of humanity, history, whatever. We’re really kind of into showing Deadsy as, like, almost a relic. I want to associate us with, like, the cradle of civilization.’ ‘A philosophy. A legacy,’ Richman adds.”

Deadsy’s albums and otherwise imagery are filled with references to Freemasonry including text in a secret Masonic language.

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ECKANKAR, Religion of the Light and Sound of God, part 1

ECKANKAR was formerly known as Eckankar, the Ancient Science of Soul Travel

Founder:

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“Although the ECK teachings have ancient roots, Eckankar was introduced as a modern-day religion in 1965 by Paul Twitchell. A seeker from an early age, he was introduced to a group of spiritual masters who would change the course of his life. These were the ECK Masters. While they trained Paul to become the Living ECK Master, he explored a wide range of spiritual traditions under different teachers. The high teachings of ECK had been scattered to the four corners of the world. Paul gathered these golden teachings of Light and Sound and made them readily available to us.”1

Some of the ECK Masters have been: Fubbi Quantz 500 BC Gopal Das 3,000 BC “founded the mystery cults of Osiris and Isis.” Kata Daki “her true age is beyond belief.” Lai Tsi Rami Nuri Rebazar Tarzs “handed the Rod of ECK Power in 1965; said to be over five hundred years old.” Towart Managi Paul Twitchell Yaubl Sacabi “The ECK Master among the Mycenaeans (who invaded Greece during the period between 2000-1700 B.C.)…leading figure among the Greek mystery cults and is now the guardian of the…sacred book of ECK, in the spiritual city of Agam Des, the home of the Eshwar-Khanewale, the God-eaters.”

Sri Harold Klemp2

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On October 1981, Sri [pronounced shree] Harold Klemp, the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master “became the spiritual leader of Eckankar…As the Living ECK Master, Harold Klemp is responsible for the continued evolution of the Eckankar teachings.”3

Mahanta: “A title to describe the highest state of God Consciousness on earth, often embodied in the Living ECK Master. He is the Living Word. An expression of the Spirit of God that is always with you.”4

Noteworthy Quotes:
“Of all religions on earth today, Eckankar offers the most direct teachings on the Light and Sound of God.”5

“The color pink is from the Astral Plane, the source of emotions and many problems.”6

“The ECK teachings place you on an advanced track back home to God.”7

Other Beliefs:
“In ECKANKAR you can learn to prove spiritual truths to yourself through your own experiences.”8

“spiritual laws taught in Eckankar, such as the Law of Cause and Effect (karma).”9

“Past lives, dreams, and Soul Travel are all part of Eckankar.”10

“What’s the main reason that seekers come to the path of ECK? A recent survey showed most came because their inner senses, intuition, told them the ECK teachings were true.”11

View of…

God:
“we are Soul, a divine spark of God.”12

“God speaks to us through past lives, dreams, and Soul Travel.”13

“The whole secret of God is that if you think that the worlds are created by a supreme being, then you must feel that you are powerless to change anything, thus leaving you at the mercy of that creator. You should know that the worlds are of your own production. You may change that world, rebuild it or improve it to suit your own desire.”14

ECK Master Rebazar Tarzs said, “God is what ye believe It is. No man is wrong about the existence of God, and yet no man is right about his knowledge of God. There is no mystery in God except that It is what each Soul believes that It is. So the riddle is that; but all men will quarrel and argue about the greatness of God and their own knowledge of Him…Yet every man is right in his knowledge of God. But does this mean that the drunkard is as right as the great minister who preaches from the pulpit? Yea, I say that he, the drunkard, is as much upon the path as the preacher is in his pulpit. . . . Each is in his own place according to his understanding. Ah, but there is the answer.”15

Jesus:
“A very new member of ECK…did the Spiritual Exercises of ECK every day during her first two months of studying the ECK discourses. These are monthly lessons in the spiritual works that the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master usually sends to ECKists for the expansion of consciousness…The Light of God filled her Spiritual Eye, and a few notes of music (the Sound of God) followed. Then came the sound of rushing air or wind. She was moving in her true spiritual form, the Soul body. But suddenly doubt and fear filled her heart. A former Pentecostal, she immediately called out the name of Jesus. Things started to go in reverse. Where once she had moved forward, she was now traveling backward in the spiritual worlds…[she] told herself that she would put her complete faith and trust in the Mahanta. Again she moved forward. The lesson gained from this Soul Travel experience was that if she placed her trust in anyone other than the Mahanta, she would indeed regress instead of moving forward spiritually.”[emphasis added]16

“Call Him anything you like, Love, the Christ Consciousness, the Nazarene, the Logos, the Bread of Life, but it makes no difference. He is anything that you can think of and more too. However, do not put Him in a Special category, for ALL Saviors and prophets who came to earth to help mankind did their part and passed on the glory of the heavenly kingdom.”[emphasis added]17

“All ECK Masters come from a long line of spiritual Masters; the Mahantas come from the same line, but they are directly connected with the SUGMAD (God) and each can be called the Son of Heaven; the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Every ECK Master is the ECK Itself, but the Mahanta is not only the ECK of Itself, but the only true representative of the SUGMAD upon every plane in the whole universe of God. He is often known as the mystical body of the SUGMAD. The line of the ECK Masters goes back into the ages, far beyond the formation of the worlds of the psychic planes.”18

Holy Spirit:
“Divine Spirit, the Light and Sound of God.”19

“You can explore the vast worlds of Divine Spirit through membership in ECKANKAR.”20

“Followers of Eckankar believe that the Light and Sound are twin aspects of the Holy Spirit, the divine life current
that flows from God. This current, known as the ECK, sustains all life.”21

“The Sound of God was the rushing wind that visited the disciples during Pentecost. Some hear It inwardly. It can be heard as the sound of rushing water; the single note of a flute; the music of violins, woodwinds, or bagpipes; or even the buzzing of bees.”22

“Soul Travel is a more direct, conscious way to transcend the human consciousness in order to hear God speak through Its voice, the Holy Spirit.”23

“in Eckankar, I found this humming to be one of the many sounds of God. It was the movement of God’s Voice—the Holy Spirit, or ECK—vibrating the ethers of time and space.”24

“The Creator, the Highest Being, speaks to creation through the Holy Spirit, the ECK.”25

“Sing HU [a holy name of God] silently or aloud for a few minutes, and then listen quietly. You may experience the Holy Spirit.”26

Salvation:
“Its teachings, which resurfaced in 1965, emphasize the value of personal experiences as the most natural way back to God. Whatever your religious background, they show how to look and listen within yourself—to expand your consciousness and enjoy spiritual freedom.”27

“There are many routes we can take to heaven. God has established so many different paths and means for us that there is a way for everyone…If you are ready, the Spiritual Exercises of ECK will help you find your own custom-made approach to the Kingdom of God.”28

“As a wayshower (not a savior), the Living ECK Master gives you all the help necessary to walk your path to Self-Realization, and ultimately, God-Realization.”29

“Christ told Nicodemus, a Pharisee and ruler of his sect, ‘Except that man be born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God.’ It means that we must be brought to light from darkness; from ignorance to enlightenment; from blindness into sight, by the action of the Cosmic Spirit within each of us….This is the Jivan Mukti, the liberation of Soul, or the birth of the Christ child within one, as many wish to believe.”30

“If anyone studies ECK closely, it’s found that nothing can compare with It, and It alone can serve humanity, the world, and the beings on the other planes. Unless one realizes this, and at the same time realizes that he must he turn serve ECK, there is no hope.”31

Jurassic Ark

“Why doesn’t the Bible mention dinosaurs?” asks the skeptic.

This is the beginning of a series of posts which will consist of the following topics with regards to the Bible:

Accuracy History and Archeology Science Christ’s “Lost Years” So Why Then?

So Why Not Then?

From personal experience, I can state that an unbeliever will use anything to fuel the fire of their disbelief.

They will claim that the Bible is not historically accurate, when nothing is farther from the truth.

They claim that Archeology has not proven any Biblical claims or that it has actually proved the Bible wrong, when in reality Archeological finds have been a continuing embarrassment to the skeptic, proving over and over the reliability of scripture.

They claim that the Bible is scientifically inaccurate, yet with every new scientific development we see that these things have been stated in the word of God for centuries.

They claim that men and time have corrupted the scripture, when actually translation to translation, language to language only proves the incorruptibility of the Bible.

They claim that the New Testament writers are hiding something because no information is given about 18 years of Jesus Christ’s life, there is a lot of amusing fiction that comes from skeptical attempts to fill in the gap.

They will even ask, “Why doesn’t the Bible mention dinosaurs?”

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete,

thoroughly equipped for all good works

—2nd Timothy 3:16

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