On his Daily Renegade YouTube channel, Josh Peck posted a video interview with Derrel Sims titled The Creators of UAP Aliens are TERRIFYING | Derrel Sims | TSR 345 (FULL) | UScreen Repost.
I featured Peck in my book Nephilim and Giants as per Pop-Researchers: A Comprehensive Consideration of the claims of I.D.E. Thomas, Chuck Missler, Dante Fortson, Derek Gilbert, Brian Godawa, Patrick Heron, Thomas Horn, Ken Johnson, L.A. Marzulli, Josh Peck, CK Quarterman, Steve Quayle, Rob Skiba, Gary Wayne, Jim Wilhelmsen, et al.
My readers know that I never make personality-based comments (what some would call personal attacks) such as I will in that Sims seems quite arrogant—which doesn’t mean that he is nor that he’s wrong (I’m not pulling a genetic logical fallacy). It’s one thing to be 99% omniscient (which he comes across as thinking of himself on the subject issues) but it’s another to treat other as though they’re lesser than he.
For example, he offered many anecdotes wherein Christians were debunked by him and he clearly views them as lesser Christians: not in terms of standing before Jesus but as being too mormie, too ignorant, too misinformed compared to him so that they’re just following party lines but he’s got personal experience on his side so he knows better.
Some of his appeals to special knowledge are early age experience with Watchers and aliens, having been a police officer, having been a CIA agent, and appealing to apocryphal and pseudepigraphic texts.
He’s got Watchers figured out, he’s got aliens figured out, he’s got Bigfoot figured out, he’s got Chupacabra figured out, he’s got Nephilim figured out, etc., etc., etc.
An odd feature of the interview is that he turned an interview into biographical story time in terms of saturating his statement retelling what he has told other people—most to correct them. He relates conversations so that during the interview he sated, “I said…” 316 times.
One of them times he, let’s say, passive aggressively related times when he saw himself as debunking his Baptist Pastor dad, he notes, “dad one time, he said, ‘Well, where do you we read all this weird stuff?’ I said, ‘Well, I don’t know. The book of Jasher, the book of The Wars of the Lord” to which his dad replied, “‘That’s not in the Bible.’ I said, ‘It’s mentioned in the Bible, daddy.’ Yeah. It’s supposed to be a reference, not scripture.” He then adds, “The Book of Enoch. I said, ‘My goodness, [illegible] quoted from the Book of Enoch in right there in the book” referring to the Bible.
Now, the fact that Josh Peck and Derrel Sims refer to the Watchers alerts us that they’re relying on 1 Enoch—and that’s been a trendy term to use amongst pop-Nephilologists for a long time. 1 Enoch is Bible contradicting folklore from centuries, if not millennia, after the Torah, see my book In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch. Watchers is a mere aka for Malakim/Angels from the Second Temple Era (516 BC-70 AD).
Jasher is just a modern day hoaxed fraud: actually, there’s more than one fraudulent Jasher—see my book The Apocryphal Nephilim and Giants: Encountering Nephilim and Giants in Extra-Biblical Texts. See, the illogic of it is to commit the non-sequitur of concluding of Jasher, “It’s mentioned in the Bible, daddy.” Yes, a Book of Jasher is mentioned in the Bible but that doesn’t mean that the frauds we have today are that book.
As for The Wars of the Lord, that’s a lost book of the Bible from which we have two verses in Num 21:14-15 which read, “Therefore it is said in the Book of the Wars of the Lord, ‘Waheb in Suphah, and the valleys of the Arnon, and the slope of the valleys that extends to the seat of Ar, and leans to the border of Moab.’” Thus, perhaps Derrel Sims is referring to philosophical text by Levi ben Gershom (aka Gersonides: 1288-1344 AD) or some other hoaxed fraud.
Thus, in short, his additional info comes from unreliable texts from centuries and millennia after the Torah: all the way to the modern day and with zero indication that any of that is anything but folklore and fraud.
Now, he besmirches Christians who claim that the whole alien phenomena is demonic because demons are spirits but aliens are physical. He refers to, “an alien in the backseat of a car…They filmed one of my abductees who ran a red light. He was getting abducted at the time in the alien, city, in the back seat and they filmed it and he had to pay $350 for the ticket. But I got the original photo” which he didn’t show during the video interview, “So, there’s a lot of evidence like that in there.”
He then ostensibly quotes doubters telling him, “These things can’t be filmed. They’re demons” to which he replies, “They’re not demons. And they can be filmed. Yes, they can. I’ve got pictures of mantis beings and other things you could scarcely imagine. I haven’t been sitting on my hands for 50 years. I’m the alien hunter. That’s what I do.”
As for Watchers, he relates that someone told him of, “‘a nasty abduction event at age 17.’ I said, ‘No, what you don’t understand, the alien didn’t show up in the last event. The ones who made, hatch, clone, made, or manufactured them came.’” He’s claiming that Watchers created aliens.
He continued, “In other words, what Christian would refer to as the fallen ones, the Watchers, that sort of thing. They’re the ones that showed up, five of them in that last event. And of course I get people all the time saying, ‘Oh my goodness, I know all about that.’ I said, ‘Oh, great. Well, then why don’t you describe them to me?’ And they said, ‘Oh, you know, is a long white hair flowing robes and all that.’”
He adds, “And I said, ‘You’ve been watching Star Trek too much. You don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re making this stuff up.’ And I said, ‘My events are quite real, and I don’t need somebody watching Star Trek to validate me.’”
The, “why don’t you describe them” question was part of his close to the vest gotcha question as Josh Peck notes/asks, “You had mentioned that you had this, your last experience, you actually saw the Watchers. Can you detail, like, what they looked like” to which the reply is that Derrel Sims, “won’t answer all those questions. I’ll answer 99% of your questions but that’s one of them I haven’t answered. And there’s a reason. The real, the reason that I’ve not answered the question about the last event is because I always get people in church, out of church, anywhere, it doesn’t matter where they’re at, they say, ‘Oh yeah, me too.’ And my response is, ‘Okay, if that’s true, describe them in detail, right?’ And they can’t. And the reason is because they hadn’t had that experience.”
So, he uses the claim that he saw them as a test for anyone who has claimed to have seen them: their experience is judged by his.
BTW: I can tell you what a Watcher looks like since they’re Angels and Angels are always described as looking like human males—see my book What Does the Bible Say About Angels? A Styled Angelology. Yet, since the flood those fallen ones haven’t been on Earth and demons don’t look like anything, by definition, since they’re spirits.
He refers to how, “the ones that came in my bedroom that night the five so-called Watchers.” Of aliens he says, “Christians answer, ‘Well, they’re demons.’ No, they’re not demons” which is because he isn’t teaching that aliens are outer-space travelers to Earth but, again, that they were created by Watchers.
He added, “my dad’s answer, ‘Well, son, that’s just the old devil or those are demons.’ Same answer I got growing up. Yeah. I asked dad, I said, ‘Well, wait a minute. Wait, we stop the bus right here. Let’s get biblical. If we’re going to do that, what is a demon?’ ‘Well, demon there are demons.’ I said, ‘You’re not answering the question. You’re, that’s not, that’s not an answer.’ I said, ‘Give me an answer to a demon.’ And he said, ‘Well, it’s a disembodied spirit.’ I said, ‘Well, thank you. Now we’re, now we’re talking on the same level.’ I said, ‘If it’s a disembodied spirit, how is a little gray alien a demon?’ That’s what he mean. I said, ‘Well, they have a, they have a body. I’ve got some photography of them if you want to see them’” we sure do but he didn’t show us anything.
Now, one oddity is that he teaches that Watchers and demons and aliens are roaming Earth. Yet, the fallen Watchers/Angels were all incarcerated, as per Jude and 2 Peter 2, while their spirits roam the Earth as disembodied demons—see my article Demons Ex Machina: What are Demons?
Josh Peck refers to and asks about, “varieties of these so-called aliens: I mean, there’s grays, Nordics, humanoid lizards, even praying mantis types. Do you believe that these are all different species in a sense or with different agendas or are they all part of the same overall group?” to which the reply includes, “most people, most abduction people or even Christians who are studying this phenomenon, they don’t know either. Most of them, they don’t have a clue. They’re just they’re doing the best they can with the resources they’ve got and they’re just kind of, so, I’m going to hopefully make this clear…The ones that people refer to as aliens, in my opinion, they’re not aliens…I’ve never met an alien.”
He adds, “one lady told me, she says, ‘Mr. Sims, you just don’t understand.’ I said, ‘Well, again, I’m a little thick here, so help me out.’ She said, ‘Well, they’re superior beings.’ I said, ‘How do you know that, sweetie? I’m not attacking you. I’m asking. Educate me.’ ‘But they’re superior.’ I said, ‘Do it. Prove it. Make your case.’ And she said, ‘Well, they made their spaceships.’ I said, ‘Sweetie,’ I said, ‘If you only have three fingers and no opposing thumb, how many things in life do you think that you might be able to construct physically?’”
It’s interesting that he gets myopic on that point since he ignores the various supposed aliens and micro-focuses his critique only on those who allegedly have, “three fingers and no opposing thumb”—see my book Fifty Shades of Gray Aliens.
Of Bigfoot, he claims, “I’ve got a fingernail, a urine sample, and some hair samples since the 1980s.” He refers to, “super beings…one sitting in one room…all the aliens are all lined up. Bigfoot, the little gray, all of them are lined up in a row standing in front of this being. Every one of these aliens are scared to death the guy sitting on the chair.”
He also has very detailed info about IQ levels, “bug-eyed little guys running around here with an IQ of 80…different beings that show up, the prey manis, the reptile, and all these other different seven different flavors, Bigfoot, he’s another one…the taller gray alien that he, that’s his boss, the so-called one who does the surgery…that guy uh he’s got an IQ about 135 or 140. He’s a lot smarter than the other guy. In fact, the other guy’s terrified of it…Then you’ve got this praying manis guy. He’s got an IQ of about 175 or 180. They eat a lot smarter than all of them…Then you got Bigfoot” but unfortunately, we don’t get to learn Bigfoot’s IQ so we don’t know if Bigfoot is Bigbrain.
They also get into, “where did those giants come from?” unfortunately employing that vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word giants. Derrel Sims’ usage of that term is clearly something vaguely generic about subjectively unusual height of some unknown level above the parochial average (and yes, that is how useless the common parlance usage of that modern English word is).
That’s because when he argues against the Sethite view of that which I call the Gen 6 affair he states that his dad claimed, “‘the line of Cain married into the line of Seth, and they produce giants’ I said, ‘If that were true, daddy,’ I said, ‘Lost people marry saved people would produce giants today, wouldn’t they?’ Right. Well, he didn’t like that answer at all.’”
The original, traditional, and majority view among the earliest Jewish and Christians commentators, starting in BC days, was the Angel view as I proved in my book On the Genesis 6 Affair’s Sons of God: Angels or Not?: A Survey of Early Jewish and Christian Commentaries Including Notes on Giants and the Nephilim. The Sethite view is a late-comer based on myth and prejudice. Yet, Derrel Sims argument is fallacious since he first has to merely suppose that Nephilim were vaguely generic about subjectively unusual height of some unknown level above the parochial average. Yet, the dirty little secret is that since we’ve no reliable physical description of Nephilim then their height is a non-issue and that alone debunks 99% of un-biblical Nephilology—the modern branch of which is just un-biblical neo-theo sci-fi tall-tales.
Derrel Sims stated, “the fallen ones came here and produced mixed with the flesh of women and produced the offspring were giants and that’s, that’s a big one: that was just a program. There were at least four races of them” the Emmim, the Zuzim, the Rephaim and so on that’s, that’s, there are at least four races, that’s the ones we know about. The fact, there are giants all over the planet. I, I’ve, I’ve been tracking the giant story for years and finally found one. Now I’m going now I’m going to go get the DNA from that and he’s deceased of course.”
Well, he’s presenting fallacious linguistics and biology. One problem with chasing the vague, generic, subjective, and multi-usage modern English word giants around a specific and ancient Hebrew Bible is that is un-contextually allows one to mash together data points that don’t belong together.
He doesn’t seem to know that he didn’t refer to 4 but to 2. the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word giants in English Bibles is that it merely renders (doesn’t even translate) Nephilim in 2 verses or Repha/im in 98% of all others and so never even hints at anything to do with any sort of height whatsoever.
The first giants are a case of that English term merely rendering Nephilim. Rephaim were aka Emmim and Zuzim—or Zamzummim—so that those supposed 3 are really just 1.
Also, Nephilim are utterly unrelated to Rephaim: Nephilim were strictly pre-flood hybrids, Rephaim were strictly post-flood humans, and there’s zero correlation between them.
And note that this takes us back to the issue of his faulty assertion that fallen Watchers are still running about as physical fallen Watchers to have done it all again post-flood so as to create Rephaim. Yet, again, that violates what Jude and 2 Peter 2 tell us and implies that God failed, He must have missed a loophole, the flood was much of a waste, etc., since He flooded the Earth in part go be rid of the offspring of fallen Watchers but they just came right back and did it all over again: that is how fallacious Nephilology damages theology proper.
He claims that the late Dr. Michael Heiser, “asked what, he said, uh, the chupacaba” to which Derrel Sims replied, “I caught one….They call me the alien hunter. You, you don’t think that’s just some a moniker, some little title?…I got one in the freezer” which he also didn’t show us but added, “I said, ‘Whatever the thing is, I got it.’ I said, ‘A rancher actually shot it and thought it, thought, he thinks it’s a hybrid or some other kind of animal’…we’re going to have a necropsy done on it at the university and find out what it is genetically. That’s what I want to do” but hasn’t.
He then told Dr. Michael Heiser, “what makes you think that it’s not in the scripture?…you’re a scholar and a brilliant man…I said, ‘I want you to quote me a scripture out of the Book of Proverbs.’ And I said, ‘I want you to I want you to give it to me broken down in Hebrew.’ He said, ‘What scripture is that?’ And I quoted it to him in English. He said, ‘I’d rather not do that.’ I said, ‘Why not?’ And I said, I said, ‘Why are you ambivalent?’ He said, ‘Because I don’t like to, the, the, because I don’t like the meaning of that.’ And I said, ‘I understand that. I get that you sound like me when I was 14 years old asking my daddy stuff. My daddy didn’t like questions either.’ Ask him, ‘What does the horse leech? What are all these different things? So my dad [clears throat so as to indicate being flummoxed and waves his hand to indicate literal hand waving away of the issue] means this.’ ‘It means something else. It’s, it’s all, the old devil is what it is.’ ‘Okay. Well, that’s not an answer. I’m sorry. That doesn’t work for me. I’m older than 14 now.’ So Mike says, ‘Well, uh, I said the scripture says that ‘behold the horse leech and it says she had two daughters.’’ He said, um, I said, ‘Tell me what that means in Hebrew.’ He said, ‘Well,’ I said, ‘Mike, you’re choking up on me here.’ He said, ‘Well, the actual word is vampire.’ ‘Wow, thank you, Mike’ I said, ‘I already know that. What do you think a chupacabra is?’”
He was referring to Proverbs 30:15 which, in the ESV, reads, “The leech has two daughters: Give and Give…” and the vampire statement is due to that the Brown-Driver-Briggs Lexicon notes that עֲלוּקָה / ʿălûqâ / al-oo-kaw’ is a, “noun feminine leech (perhaps Aramaic loan-word; > vampyre-like demon, Ew and others = Arabic ‘Aulaḳ WeHeid. 2, 149, or name of sage, as some Rabbi.” So, sure, a leech sucks blood so that got turned into vampire and then chupacabra since he then just notes that chupa refers to sucking and that cabra means goat thus, as he put it, “to suck the blood out of a goat”—too bad the Bible doesn’t refers to mosquitos since the same argument could have been made.
One of his points was, “I’ve got pictures” which he didn’t show us, “‘of animals that are inside cages that were all, uh, sucked the blood sucked out of them…eight or nine of them.’ I said, ‘How’d whatever it is get inside that cage? They, he couldn’t do.’ I said, ‘My point is he had to have help.’”
But the he then changed to a she for the next point, “I said, ‘So whatever it is, I don’t know.’ I said, ‘But the important thing I think that you ought to consider, Mike, is that that thing has got, it’s female, and it’s got children…I said, ‘God didn’t name it. He didn’t show you every animal in Genesis…the Bible’s a, many times is a, is a, it’s a, it’s a thumbnail sketch…I don’t care whether it’s a chupacabra, I don’t care whether it’s alien or anything else. Uh, it’s like anything I tell people, especially Christians, I said, ‘You’re reading too fast.’”
So, apparently, God created a goat’s blood sucker even though indications are that no one, not humans nor animals, ate animal products, bodies or blood, until post-flood—but I must be reading too fast.
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