Month: February 2025

The Kebra Nagast is a collection of Ethiopian Biblical folklore that was put into to writing in the fourteenth century AD based on Ethiopian oral traditions of the Queen of Sheba, her state marriage with King Solomon, and their son Menyelek aka Bayna-Lehkem aka David II (this version was translated by E.A.W. Budge in 1922 AD).

Section 100 of Kebra Nagast is titled “Concerning the Angels Who Rebelled” which refers to “were certain angels with whom God was wroth” who “reviled Adam” because God had given him charge to subdue the Earth and “He hath fashioned him with His fingers, and He hath created him in His own image, and He hath kissed him and breathed upon him the spirit of life; and He saith unto him, ‘My son, My firstborn, My beloved.’”

Thus, we see a basic envy set up. They also complain that even though “He hath set him in a garden to eat and enjoy himself without sickness or suffering, and without toil or labour, but He hath commanded him not to eat from one tree” nevertheless “Adam hath transgressed.” They then want to declare the sin of Adam to God and state “we have reviled Adam because he hath transgressed Thy commandment.”

God notes to the Angles, “You have I created out of fire and air with the one intent [that ye should] praise [Me]. Him have I created of twice as many elements as you—of dust and water, and of wind and fire; and he became [a being] of flesh and blood. And in him are ten thoughts (or, intentions), five good, and five bad.”

That Angles are created out of fire and air may betray some Islamic influence which has Jinn/Djinn being created from a mixture of fire and/or smokeless fire.

God refers to “the Devil” as “that arrogant one who produced evil, and became an evil being” who “was driven forth from your assembly” for apparently similar envious reasons as God asks the Angels, “And now, why do ye magnify yourselves over Adam?”

The Angels affirm “We will not transgress Thy commandment, and we will not oppose Thy word…And when they had vaunted themselves in this manner God, the Lover of men, said unto them, ‘If now ye go astray so far as this in transgressing My word, the wrong will be upon your own heads, [for] Jahannam (or, hell), and fire, and sulphur, and fervent heat, and whirlwind shall be your habitation until the Great Day: ye shall be kept in chains which can neither be loosened nor broken for ever. But if ye keep truly My word, and ye do My commandment, ye shall sit upon My right hand and upon My left.’”

He adds that “Satan hath no power whatsoever, for he hath only what he maketh to germinate in the mind…he can only make thoughts to germinate silently in the mind.” And then a telling statement, “And to you, according to what ye wish, there shall be upon you the mind of a man and the body of a man” and indeed, biblically Angles look like human males (no wings, no halos) and God warns them not to “defile not ye yourselves with…fornication” amongst other things.

Well, they were given “flesh, and blood, and a heart of the children of men. And they were content to leave the height of heaven, and they came down to earth, to the folly of the dancing of the children of Cain with all their work of the artisan, which they had made in the folly of their fornication.”

And the daughters of the children of Cain “enjoyed the” well certain carnal activities “without shame, for they scented themselves” and “they lost the balance in their minds.”

And we now come to wherein the Kebra Nagast directly touches upon the Genesis 6 affair. At this point the text refers to the fallen Angels as “the men” who “did not restrain themselves for a moment, but they took to wife from among the women those whom they had chosen, and committed sin with them.” With the problem being elucidated as that “God hath no resting-place in the hearts of the arrogant and those who revile.”

Now, the Kebra Nagast taps into Jude and 2 Peter 2 in adding therefrom that “straightway God was wroth with them, and He bound them in the terror of Sheôl until the day of redemption, as the Apostle saith, ‘He treated His angels with severity. He spared them not, but made them to dwell in a state of judgement, and they were fettered until the Great Day.’”

It also quotes Genesis 6:3 with an additional statement, “My spirit shall only rest on them for one hundred and twenty years, and I will destroy them with the waters of the Flood.”

The Kebra Nagast is interesting as it does not take a sons of God as Sethites and daughters of men as Cainites view but a sons of God as Angels and daughters of men as Cainites view. Biblically, the sons of God are Angels but we are not specifically told that the daughters of men are Cainites.

In any case, “the daughters of Cain with whom the angels had companied conceived, but they were unable to bring forth their children, and they died. And of the children who were in their wombs some died, and some came forth; having split open the bellies of their mothers they came forth by their navels”—so an Aliens movie-like chest burst!

But why? Apparently, they were big babies as the text continues directly with that “when they were grown up and reached man’s estate they became giants, whose height reached unto the clouds.”

As I noted here, some ancient texts (and more recent ones such as the Kebra Nagast) speak of giants who are so tall that they would be unable to move, if they attempted to take a step their bones would shatter. In fact, they would be unable to simply stay alive as the caloric requirements for just the basal metabolic rate (the basic body’s functions without even taking into consideration the caloric requirements and expenditure involved in moving) would be such that armies of people would do nothing all day but feed them and then they would merely lay there all day.

God then speaks to Noah about how to survive the flood which is “Make thyself a four-sided ark…make for it three storeys inside.”

At this point we reach the sermonizing portion of the text as it discusses why God had Noah build a wooden ark rather than saving he and his otherwise, “God was well pleased that by means of wood which had been sanctified the salvation of His creation should take place, that is to say, the ark and the wood of the Cross” the ark is also likened to “the Tabernacle of the Church; and when He said unto him, ‘Make it foursided,’ He showed that the Sign of the Cross was fourfold,” etc.

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Petros Koutoupis posted an article titled The Nephilim and the Flood​ on the site Digging Up the Past.

It’s noted that, “Many scholars, both independent and accredited” one of whom was the utterly unqualified Zecharia Sitchin who made a living by selling neo-tall-tales.

Back in the day, I read 10 or 11 of his books.

Dr. Michael Heiser, who was qualified and credentialed, challenged Sitchin to debate his assertions but Sitchin refused—for over a decade and until his passing away.

Thus, we’re told:

…many independent scholars have taken the opportunity to exploit the Nephilim to their advantage. Zecharia Sitchin was one of those individuals, who proposed that the Nephilim were nothing more than a god-like race with the knowledge and technology to navigate the heavens, who came to earth and created mankind as slave labor mining rare materials.

I’m glad they were, “nothing more” than that since if they were more we’d really be in trouble.

While when recognized as being etymologically rooted in the Hebrew naphal the word Nephilim is understood as fall/fallen/to fall/to cause to fall/feller, etc., “Sitchin had jumped on the chance to translate the Nephilim as: (1) those who came down from above, (2) those who were cast down, and (3) people of the fiery rockets” which is asking much too much uber specificity to derive from such a simple word (note that the, “im” ending merely makes a Hebrew word male plural).

Right on point, Petros Koutoupis pointedly noted, “These made-up epithets are clearly ridiculous and groundless.”

He then notes that Sitchin, “goes on to identify the Nephilim with the Sumerian deities, claiming that the Sumerians knew of their existence and that they came from a planet called Nibiru” yet, biblically, they were born on Earth and after, “man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them.”

Koutoupis also noted, “According to Sitchin, Nibiru completed its rotation around our sun every 3600 or so earth years. The sources cited came from his mistranslated Mesopotamian inscriptions and cylinder seal impressions.”

He adds, “in his second book, The Phoenix Solution…Alan Alford retracted his [Sitchin’s] ancient astronaut theories…Sitchin threatened Alan Alford with a 50 million dollar lawsuit on the grounds that Alford’s comments discredited Sitchin’s theories and destroyed his reputation.”

Why debate when you can file a lawsuit?

Also noted is Andrew Collins who, “using the sons of God and the Nephilim to hint at a forgotten race…uses translations similar to Sitchin’s for the noun Nephilim…Collins clearly displays his lack of knowledge in biblical Hebrew; confusing the Nephilim with the sons of God.”

Now to Koutoupis’ own view in that Gen 6:4 notes:

The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.

Yet, he tells us:

The biggest clues to the identification of the Nephilim will come from Numbers 13:33:

And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, who come of the Nephilim; and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Taking an interpretation of the Nephilim as the ‘people of the fiery rockets’ again holds no credibility when examining the term itself and the surrounding grammar of Genesis 6:4 and Numbers 13:33.

The, “biggest clues to the identification of the Nephilim will come from Numbers 13:33” is a huge problem since that’s merely recording an, “evil report” by unreliable guys whom God rebuked so their tall-tale is meaningless.

Also, Petros Koutoupis quoted a non-LXX version since the LXX doesn’t mention Anakim in that verse—and when Caleb and Moses retell that event they don’t mention Nephilim: why would they, they weren’t concerned about a fantasy tall-tale.

Thus, it’s unfortunate that when Koutoupis goes on to argue that Nephilim was there used as, “the name of one of the Canaanite tribes” that’s not the case: it was just a, “Don’t go in the woods” style of fear-mongering, scare-tactic tall-tale.

He then tells us:

When the Old Testament was first translated to the Greek language, the word for Nephilim read gigantes, the Greek word for giants. This is confirmed in Numbers 13:33 with the description of the Israelites when compared to the race of giants.

Well, if gigantes is the word for giants that only begs these questions: What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles? What’s Koutoupis’ usage? Do those two usages agree?

Also, gigantes means earth-born.

That we’re told, “This is confirmed in Numbers 13:33” must mean that his usage is something un-specifically vague about generically subjectively unusual height. Yet, the usage in English Bibles is that it merely renders (doesn’t even translate) “Nephilim” in 2 verses or “Repha/im” in 98% of all others and so never even hints at anything to do with any sort of height whatsoever.

He goes on to argue that, “the characteristics held by the Nephilim” don’t lend themselves to be grammatically related to naphal since, “what have the Nephilim fallen from? The answer is nothing” yet, historically they’ve been said to have cause the styled second fall which was the flood and/or that they fell upon men due to being mighty.

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To start with: Fritz Zimmerman posted the following on his Facebook page, “Burial Mound Within an Enclosure at the Nephilim Giants Capital City at Charleston, West Virginia.”

True Freethinker:

I didn’t discern any indication that it was “Nephilim Giants” and also, biblically contextually “Nephilim Giants” means, “Nephilim Nephilim.”

Fritz:

This article is about a burial mound within a rectangular enclosure that I photographed in Charleston, W.V. Don’t comment on articles you haven’t read.

True Freethinker:

The “I didn’t discern any indication” portion was about having read it. And, if, “This article is about a burial mound within a rectangular enclosure” then why click bait it with “I didn’t discern any indication that it was “Nephilim Giants,” then ignore that I noted there’s nothing about Nephilim nor giants in the article and ignored that it means, “Nephilim Nephilim”?

Fritz:

It is not clickbait. Two henges aligned to the summer and winter solstices measuring 666 feet in circumference in Charleston. The Smithsonian reported eight skeletons exceeding seven feet in length. Charleston was the Nephilim Capital! I suggest you read.

The Encyclopedia of Ancient Giants in North America

True Freethinker

But “Charleston was the Nephilim Capital!” is a mere assertion: should we think that based on “666 feet” and “seven feet”?

Fritz Zimmerman:

It is not an assertion; it is a fact.

True Freethinker

That was actually a question–“?” so you asserted again by replying with an assertion rather than an elucidating answer. You seem to assert that anyone who was subjectively unusually tall must have been a Nephil but that would be a faulty premise since we’ve no reliable physical description of them so their si​ze is a non-issue.

Well, that was the end of that one—left hanging just when it was his turn to present the evidence upon which he peppered Nephilim into it. Convenient, que no?

Now to, “3,000-year-old Egyptian mummies contain strong traces of Nicotine and Cocaine.”

I hate to break it to you but that isn’t what sparked my interest—pun intended ;o)

It’s just that I keep begging Fritz Zimmerman to justify why his MO is to just arbitrarily slap the term Nephilim on virtually everything so that, in this case, I was rather picante and commented:

That’s great: that faked to make a point photo is about as reliable as 99% of the tall-tales you post.

In reply he, posting as The Nephilim Chronicles; Fallen Angels in the Ohio Valley (see what I mean?) replied:

Why don’t you address the fact that tobacco and Cocaine were found in the mummy? Feel free to go to your safe place before answering a tough question Nancy.

The article has nothing to do with the Nephilim. Why are you making stupid comments about an article you haven’t read. Anymore and you will be blocked

I’ll grant that I was trolling this time around but that is his go-to move: threaten censorship via blocking no matter what I note or ask him.

I, as True Freethinker, replied:

I’m unsure why you artificially inserted “The article has nothing to do with the Nephilim” into this discussion. I generally noted, “Misrepresenting what we know about Nephilim. Explain that” and your reply appears to be threatening that you’ll rely on censorship to keep hiding in your safe space.

Fritz Zimmerman:

“Stupid comments” is threatening? You need to troll another site Nancy

True Freethinker

I’m starting to realize why you’re literally incapable of having a simple discussion about your mere assertions: 1) you can’t even follow a very basic level discussion that hardly consists of more than one paragraph at most–“threatening”? Yes, “you will be blocked” since you are willing to rely on censorship (the last vestige of a weak point) and 2) you’re tragically childish, I thought I’d be done being calling childish names when I graduated elementary school.

Fritz:

Idiot

True Freethinker

The Nephilim Chronicles; Fallen Angels in the Ohio Valley You just verified everything I said and for that, I thank you. Let’s cut to the chase: let’s debate Nephilology live online. When and where?

Well, that was the end of that joust.

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