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PZ Myers and Pavlov's Monkeys

I am certainly no prophet of doom yet, I wonder if Professor PZ Myers may want to slow his roll, as it were, considering just how influential he is particularly with regards to his admirers.

Scienceblogger Chad Orzel described the commentators on PZ Myers’ Scienceblogs.com site Pharyngula, and other Scienceblogs.com commentators, as “screechy monkeys.”

PZ Myers is not only abusing his position, and blog, by pushing atheism in the guise of science but he is also engaging in anti-science behavior. Granted that online polls are not hard science but it is somewhere in the realm of statistics. This is what PZ Myers wrote in his post Crash this poll:

“You know how we all love to screw up online polls…here’s another one. Scroll down to just below ‘What others are saying’, on the left, where the poll question is:Do you think the theory of Intelligent Design should be taught in our education system?

‘Yes’ is currently leading by about 3:1. If everyone goes over there and votes ‘no’, it will raise Mark Mathis’s blood pressure a few points.” [ellipses in original]

One, of many, very telling responses that a screechy monkey managed to type out whist randomly pressing keyboard keys reads, “Done, m’lord. Now the No is leading.”

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Well, voting in the way that your lord told you is one thing but what about Prof. PZ Myers’ constant bombastic and vociferous vitriol? God forbid that Pavlov’s monkeys ever take him as seriously as he takes himself and take actions based on his inflammatory terminology. Following are two examples:

PZ Myers wrote the following at his blog Pharyngula:

“I am a biologist. Like it or not, the Republican party is being led by religious zealots who are anti-biology, who publicly and vigorously oppose reason and knowledge and evidence in my field of study…

the despicable gang of anti-intellectuals who run this country…

Let them find comfort and forgiveness for stupid mistakes in their religion, because I sure as hell am not going to give it to them…the preachers are stridently condemning all us evilutionists [sic] to hell, is a damned ineffective tactic that has gotten us to this point. I say, screw the polite words and careful rhetoric. It’s time for scientists to break out the steel-toed boots and brass knuckles, and get out there and hammer on the lunatics and idiots. If you don’t care enough for the truth to fight for it, then get out of the way.”

PZ Myers further wrote:

“Yeah, I’m afraid the ‘civilized academic debate’ was settled about a century ago. Scientists have been engaging in that ideal, non-militaristic fashion for quite some time, and still are – those discussions go on in the pages of the journals. Unfortunately, while we have been doing everything in the proper civilized way, the forces of ignorance have not; they have lied their way into considerable power.

Here I am, a biologist living in the 21st century in one of the richest countries in the world, and one of the two biology teachers in my kids’ high school is a creationist. Last year, the education commissioner in my state tried to subvert the recommendations for the state science standards by packing a hand-picked ‘minority report’ committee to push for required instruction in intelligent design creationism in our schools. All across the country, we have these lunatics trying to stuff pseudoscientific religious garbage into our schools and museums and zoos.

This is insane.

Please don’t try to tell me that you object to the tone of our complaints. Our only problem is that we aren’t martial enough, or vigorous enough, or loud enough, or angry enough. The only appropriate responses should involve some form of righteous fury, much butt-kicking, and the public firing and humiliation of some teachers, many schoolboard members, and vast numbers of sleazy far-right politicians.” [italics in original]

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Hopefully, PZ Myers will manage to keep his monkeys considerably sedated.

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Speaking of Assiduous Absconders…Yet Again, Vox Day Challenges PZ Myers to Debate

Interestingly enough, having noted that since some atheists refuse to debate “creationists” but then go on to debate some of those people but not others, it is clear that they are, in reality, being selective and making excuses for absconding from difficulties (even though he is so very, very wrong at least the same cannot be said of Christopher Hitchens).

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I suppose that if evolution had not done away with it, PZ Myers could have absconded from another debate with his tail between his legs. In his post, So, how about that debate, PZ? Vox Day reiterates his challenge to debate:

Directly contra his past excuse-making, PZ Myers has reversed himself and decided that he is willing to engage in public debates with Unworthy Opponents again. Debates sponsored by Christian radio stations, no less! So, how about that public radio debate on the evidence for gods that Northern Alliance Radio is willing to host, PZ? Or even one on the scientific evidence for evolution? Or, in light of the very public unmasking of the AGW/CC charade, we could debate your manifestly unscientific belief in “global warming” aka “climate change”.

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After all, an internationally known skeptic who appears regularly on radio shows around the world thanks to a series of correct economic and financial forecasts can’t possibly be less of a Worthy Opponent than an erstwhile Jehovah’s Witness and Intelligent Design enthusiast, right?

Let us see, thus far, as I can recall from the top of my noggin; Stephen Jay Gould, Richard Dawkins, Eugene Scott and PZ Myers flatly refused to debate “creationists” which is a category into which they fallaciously place Intelligent Design theorists and probably atheists such as Francis Crick and agnostics such as David Berlinski. They have provided quaint excuses for, at the same time, being alleged champions of reason and science whilst not debating their views against the superstitious and ignorant.

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Initially, (via his post Sorry, Vox, I Don’t Debate Crazy Pipsqueaks Any More) PZ Myers refused to debate the issue of the existence of god(s) by claiming that he only tackles weak arguments for the existence of god(s) because there are no strong arguments. Vox Day invited him to debate the issue on the Northern Alliance Radio Show but Myers turned down the debate by referring to Day by various ad hominems, stating that he actually read more than a couple of chapters of Day’s book The Irrational Atheist and putting down conservative radio in general (apparently referring to Vox Day as odious, christofascist misogynist, beneficiary of wingnut welfare, prominent freakshow participant, insane babbler is some form of refutation in PZ Myer’s mind).1

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Yet, since Myers has gone on to “engage in public debates with Unworthy Opponents…sponsored by Christian radio stations” the challenge is again presented.

It is no wonder that the New (and Old) atheist are so shockingly wrong so stunningly often. They have their fans that follow behind cleaning up their messes and excusing any and everything. Such was the case with Myers and his screechy monkeys who congratulate him to no end for cowering away from a debate again someone whom they consider easier to topple than a straw man.

Lastly, there is, at least, one topic that Vox Day will not debate and this is an interesting point:

Unfortunately, I can’t offer him a debate on teaching intelligent design in science classes because I don’t believe it should be taught there either. Nor, for that matter should evolution by natural selection. In fact, I believe the very notion of science classes for the great majority of students is eminently absurd. We know the American schools cannot teach reading, writing, logic, and personal finance to the great majority of their students, so it is easy to demonstrate that there is neither reason nor evidence to support the notion that the schools are capable of effectively teaching science of any kind.