The full question posted to the Quora site is Why has information about giants across the planet been practically erased out of history? Genesis 6 says they were here when Adam was made, and afterwards. Shouldn’t we have more information about them, when they were here also?
The following discussion ensued when a certain Marie-Brigitte Souci, who self-identifies as, “Accredited Biblical Teacher (Christian Ministry & Theology),” replied
Though the Bible briefly mentions these giants in Genesis 6, 2 Peter 2:4, Jude 1:6–7, it does not elaborate on the topic. I highly recommend studying the whole Dead Sea Scrolls, especially the Book of Giants, Book of Wars, Book of Jubilees, the Book of Enoch gives all the details on the Nephilim Giants, all the commentaries and homilies of the Early Church Fathers, Apostolic Fathers, and the Ante-Nicene Fathers from 1st Century to 400 AD.
These Giants were earl, but after their death they became disembodied spirits. These are the evil spirits Jesus was casting out of people in the Gospels, and the Apostles continued this ministry in the book of Acts and Epistles. The Church must continue to fight against these principalities of darkness until the consummation.
I, Ken Ammi, replied
Well, but 2 Peter 2:4, Jude 1:6–7 don’t contain “information about giants” (whatever that means).
FYI: Biblically contextually, “Nephilim Giants” means “Nephilim Nephilim.
I supposed I should ask these key questions:
What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles?
What’s your usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants”?
Do those two usages agree?
As for, “Giants were earl, but after their death they became disembodied spirits” well, that’s just folklore from centuries, if not millennia, after the Torah. For a biblical view, please see my article, “Demons Ex Machina: What are Demons?”
As for “Dead Sea Scrolls, especially the Book of Giants, Book of Wars, Book of Jubilees, the Book of Enoch” please see my books:
“The Apocryphal Nephilim and Giants: Encountering Nephilim and Giants in Extra-Biblical Texts”
And:
“In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch.”
Marie-Brigitte Souci
The Nephilim are the offsprings of the Angels who rebelled against God because of their greed, illegally left their heavenly abode and came to earth to have intercourse with humans. These Angels are also called false teachers. When the Nephilim (visible bodies) died in the Great Flood, it is then that they became disembodied spirits (invisible) or demons.
ANGELS + HUMANS = NEPHILIM
The following verse confirms that their half-parent angels are locked in Tartarus,
2 Peter 2:3-4, In their greed, these false teachers will exploit you with deceptive words. The longstanding verdict against them remains in force, and their destruction does not sleep. For if God did not spare the angels having sinned, but having cast them down to Tartarus, in chains of gloomy darkness, delivered them, being kept for judgment.
Jude 1:6–7, And the angels who did not stay within their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling (heaven)— these He has kept in eternal chains under darkness, bound for judgment on that great day. In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire.
The word Nephilim is derived from the word Naphal.
Strong’s Concordance,
H5303 נְפִיל Nephilim: “giants,” name of two peoples, one before the flood and one after the flood. Word Origin from naphal.
H5307 נָפַל Nâphal: A primitive root; to fall, miscarriage, ruin, carcass. Refuse: What is thrown down as worthless. In a great variety of applications (intransitively or causatively, literally or figuratively): To cast, divide, overthrow, present, lay, rot, slay, accept, throw down, fail, cease, die, inferior, light, lost.
The word Giant according to the Strong’s Concordance,
H5303 (Strong) נְפִל נְפִיל Nephı̂yl Nephil: From H5307; properly, a feller, that is, a bully or tyrant: – giant.
Ken Ammi
Most interesting!
I’m unsure where, “These Angels are also called false teachers” but I suppose that’s fair enough.
I’m unsure what you mean by, “Nephilim (visible bodies)” but when I write, “As for, ‘Giants were earl, but after their death they became disembodied spirits’ well, that’s just folklore from centuries, if not millennia, after the Torah” and you reply by doubling down on that assertion I’m unsure how it helps to reiterate, “they became disembodied spirits (invisible) or demons.”
Did you read my article?
Since, “The word Nephilim is derived from the word Naphal” then it mean fall/fallen/to cause to fall/feller, etc.
As for, “Nephilim: ‘giants,’ name of two peoples, one before the flood and one after the flood” that’s incoherent. Rather, “giants” is just one of the words used to render (not translate) “Nephilim” due to that the LXX used “gigantes” to render “Nephilim” and other words—it literally means “earth-born.” As for, “after the flood” well, that’s merely from one single sentence in an “evil report” by unreliable guys whom God rebuked so it’s irrelevant: it was just a tall-tale.
Such is why, “Biblically contextually, ‘Nephilim Giants’ means ‘Nephilim Nephilim.’”
What of, “2 Peter 2:4, Jude 1:6–7 don’t contain ‘information about giants’”?
That brought the discussion to an end as no more replies were forthcoming.
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