This discussion took place due to the Right Response Ministries’ Youtube video Sizes of Biblical Giants & Where They Could Be Hiding Today | with @hauntedcosmos_
A certain @LocatedLeech commented
Just a question why would it not be likely that noahs sons wife didnt have giant dna in her?
Also something really cool is this is how dinosaurs came to be. Thing it talks about how when the fallen came down they intermingled with daughters of men and the beasts of the field. These giants had to have something to eat. A chicken would be like a roach to us. So they had to dna splice and make a food source for themselves.
I, @kenammi355, replied
“why would it not be likely that noahs sons wife didnt have giant dna in her?” because God didn’t failed by missing that loophole when He meant to be rid of Nephilim. Who or what is “Thing” that “talks” dinos?
@LocatedLeech chimed in with
Your Correct in that God didn’t make a mistake. However what if I told you that God allowed his wife (apologies can’t remember which son off the top of my head) to survive so that they could repopulate the earth. We know that Noah wasn’t sitting on any daughters though so they had to come from somewhere. It doesn’t say God created them either. So one presume they each had to find wives. God said all flesh was corrupt so they had to be to unfortunately.
To answer the second question in the bible Genesis 6:7 and 6:12 are examples of what I meant when answering about dinosaurs. In these 2 verses it explains what “Flesh” means and who it contains, and that it was all corrupt. We know corrupt is not just a thing for violence or an action, however it is a blood issue. It’s a corrupting of God’s image. So we know that the beasts of the field were corrupted just like man was. God said that all of the earth was corrupt at that time other than Noah and his family. We also know dinosaurs exist, and it so happens that they are smothered under the earth. This would also explain that. Meaning when the flood when it happened it was so powerful it ripped the earth apart shoving massive parts of the earth up and throwing it over the these dead dinosaurs bodies. This would explain why we are digging up a lot of dinosaurs. Unfortunately Science is terrible at dating. I’ve seen several scientists debunk it and why in great detail. I’m not an expert though and would recommend watching them instead of me.
I would highly recommend reading the book of Enoch. Specifically the first one. This goes way into more detail about it. We know that the apocrypha books aren’t biblical but we know their historical. The book of Jude specifically quotes the First book of Enoch to just give an example.
All that said we can definatelly deduce that the Giants wouldn’t of had much to eat if it weren’t for something bigger then our modern day creatures. We know that these Giants specifically not to be mixed with the later ones in David’s day were the tallest of the Giants. Could be argued how tall but still. So they needed something, but satan’s game is to corrupt the image of God. He did it first to himself, then mankind, and also the species.
So this is what I’ve deduced through many years of studying I hope it makes sense. Any other question I’d be happy to answer, and would love to hear your thoughts too.
@kenammi355
Appreciate the detailed reply.
Sorry, I have no idea what you mean by “Noah wasn’t sitting on any daughters” but the “what if” means that the flood was much of a waste. Also, we’re told five times who survived the flood and Nephilim aren’t on any list.
And merely inventing a tall-tale about a genetic survival of them is just that: inventing un-biblical tall-tales that make the flood much of a waste for no reason whatsoever since there’s no such thing as post-flood Nephilim so no reason to artificially insert stories into the Bible.
“God said all flesh was corrupt” with exceptions, “corrupt at that time other than Noah and his family” as you put it.
You assert, “corrupt is…a blood issue” and that might be part of it but secondary, if anything, since, for example, what we’re told about Noah mirrors what we’re told about Abraham and that is that he was uniquely righteous.
You could have genetically “perfect” twin lambs but if one suffers even one cut then it’s no longer kosher for sacrifice even though it’s still genetically “perfect.”
As for the flood, see my books “Noah’s Flood, the Deluge, Global or Local?, Vol I: A Historical Survey of Views from BC to AD” and “Noah’s Flood, the Deluge, Global or Local?, Vol II: A Historical Survey of Commentaries from the 1500s to the 2000s.”
As for Enoch, see my book “In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch.”
Sure, it “goes way into more detail about it” but without any indication that any of the addons are accurate. It’s really just Bible contradicting folklore from centuries, if not millennia, after the Torah. Sure, “Jude specifically quotes the First book of Enoch” and Paul quotes Greek poets.
As for, “Giants” the key questions are:
What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles?
What’s your usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants”?
Do those two usages agree?
That brought the discussion to and end as no more replies were forthcoming.
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