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When and why they became Atheists – Hoi Polloi Atheists, 19

Herein we will consider when and why certain personages became Atheists. We will parse these into Statistics, Influential Atheists, Ex-Catholics, Ex-Hindus and Hoi Polloi Atheists. As of now, I list the tales of 107 Atheists. You can find them all at the When and Why They Became Atheists Project page.

These examples are taken from Quora.

Ravi Kiran:
Ravi claims to have become an Atheist as a result of “Reading, critical thinking, being curious to know the answer, reasoning…reading science books like Brief history of time kind of influenced me to think all the patterns, order and logic must be due to some super natural power (how naive I was then), however as I grew up and read many other books I realized I was wrong.” Well, this tells us precisely nothing as we are told what but not how nor why.

Main points:
No age given.

Ravi then notes that one book in particular “convinced me that, there of course is no super power and logic behind anything” which, again, is saying nothing at all. Moreover, “convinced me” is a subjective statement and “of course” is not an argument or evidence but an assertion.

Ravi also falls for a least two fallacies in one in writing, “In one case, one just accepts an answer and try to route all problems to that answer where no one is allowed to question anything.” He means that in religion “one just accepts an answer and try to route all problems to that answer” and that “no one is allowed to question anything.” I am tempted to claim that this is not only an Atheist talking point and while to some degree it is that, it also results from having non-, un- and anti-biblical experiences with people who have bad or non-answers.

An Atheist stereotype if to complain about not getting answers but then turning around and praising Atheism for giving them no answers. He write that as per science, “one continues to find answers, and is completely comfortable that there can be no answers.” Yet, this leads him to a form of Atheistic nihilism of sorts when he asserts, without evidence, that “When one sees the vast spectrum of time, space and realize that we are operating in a very tiny time & space frame, it is easy to comprehend that we are trying too hard to make sense out of things – the existence is earth is itself an extreme chance – right distance from the Sun, right gases and right evolution etc – it is impossible to think this could be intelligent design.” That “it is impossible to think” is not only obviously untrue but is subjective. Moreover, his is a non sequitur as he could have just as easily have stated, “When one sees the vast spectrum of time, space and realize that we are operating in a very tiny time & space frame, it is easy to comprehend that we are trying too hard to make sense out of things – the existence is earth is itself an extreme chance – right distance from the Sun, right gases and right changes within kinds etc – it is logical, reasonable and scientific to think this could be intelligent design.”

He is merely stating that since “it is impossible to think” therefore “it is impossible.”

Trevor Carter: He notes, “The more I learned about science, including the human brain(mind), the more I pulled away from god. Religious books are childish to me.”

In typical manner, he merely makes an authoritative assertion since he tells us utterly nothing about how or why but only what, “I learned” and “I pulled away” because “Religious books are childish to me” is to say nothing at all.

Main points:
No age given.

Trevor’s reference to that which seems childish is interesting as his entire statement is childish on an emotional and logical level.

He asserts, giving no citations or quotations, “Be good and believe = reward from god. Doubt god = punishment and death. Whoa! God is a [*****] based on what the religious texts say about him. He’s basically an underachiever who likes to blame everyone else for his mistakes. If god is so holy and good, then how in the world did something called ‘evil’ ever come into existence? How can something evil come from something good? It’s bs!”

You see? All emotive assertion and finally an appeal to the problem of evil in, again, merely asserting without argument but merely jumping to conclusions that if “god is so holy and good, then how in the world did something called ‘evil’ ever come into existence? How can something evil come from something good? It’s bs!” which is a claim of inconsistency without backing, is appealing to absolute logic without a premise, is a claim that evil came from God when it did not and implies a condemnation of evil and yet with no premise.

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James Robertson:
This one is short and sour and consists of a note about how “In Australia and New Zealand there are very few outwardly religious people and they tend to keep to themselves. I went to religious schools my whole life and never actually met a single student who claimed to be religious.” And concludes with “There is no need to come out as an atheist because it is assumed until proven otherwise.”

Main points:
No age given but from birth is implied.

The lesson is that socio-cultural “religion” is not a relationship with Jesus. When you lean a bunch of head knowledge stuff it is very easy to walk away from it.
At least James is honest enough to admit that Atheism “is assumed” and it is so “until proven otherwise” yet, since he never defines Atheism we know not what do prove or disprove. The point is that many Atheists demand authoritative adherence to their subjective definition. As you have seen within this series, many demand that Atheism is merely a “lack of belief in god(s)” (so they can run away and claim that they need not prove anything since they are claiming nothing). So, is James asking that a mere “lack of belief in god(s)” be “proven otherwise”? No, he must be implying that he positively affirms God’s non-existence. Yet, for how to disprove even a mere “lack of belief in god(s),” see Do presuppositional apologists misapply Romans 1?

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