The Facebook group The Metal Bible Podcast posted that about which I have, in turn, posted a few times (here initially) which was appeals to Chuck Missler and especially Michael Heiser regarding Nephilim.
The podcaster then devoted a post to besmirching me wherein he wrote:
Dude commented this 1.8 million times on one of my posts so I thought I would quickly debunk it in one post…. This is probably the easiest thing to debunk in about 3 seconds… The post flood Nephilim isn’t a biblical doctrine? Do you READ the Bible? There are 6 NAMED Nephilim from after the flood…
Someone needs to go watch my 2 part 3 1/2 hour episode with The Christian Theological Dark Web Podcast on this topic and come back educated… But here’s a quick debunking anyways. True Freethinker
[Num 13:33 NASB20] 33 “We also saw the Nephilim there (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we were like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”
Its almost as if the Bible very clearly says there were Nephilim AFTER the flood in the land of Canaan where the Israelites were supposed to claim the promised land as their own…. [followed by five hands up shrugging emojis]
Rather than dealing with the factoids, a certain The Christian Theological Dark Web Podcast opined
He’s just trying to get attention. Unfortunate to seek attention instead of Truth…
The Metal Bible Podcast
He just copied and pasted this same comment to every person on my post that wasnt even about the nephilim at all
The Christian Theological Dark Web Podcast
he’s probably controlled opposition for the nephilim
True Freethinker
Why do post-flood Nephilologists act just like stereotypical Atheist online? You ignored the substance and played mind reader–and failed at it. So, please opt for engaging in sharpening iron with iron.
Michael Holdren
You spend A LOT of time posting about things that have zero relevancy with The Great Commission.
The Metal Bible Podcast
If you dont know the ENTIRE Bible you dont know God…. and if you watched my 3 1/2 hour episode on this topic you would know WHY this topic is important for every believer to know about….. but of course you would rather complain all of the time instead…. Go start your own page and you can bore people with your nonsense in your own way
True Freethinker
But friend, you have a god that failed.
Michael Holdren to The Metal Bible Podcast
dude, all I’m saying is you have a platform that could help bring salvation to others, or embolden or prepare believers to share the gospel, but instead you want to go down a rabbit hole to chase your own self interests.
MemeVangelists ·
The Metal Bible Podcast Dude realizes he is spending time commenting on a Facebook post, in a Facebook page, using Facebook… instead of IDK, carrying out the Great Commission?
Bethany Pendley to Michael Holdren
are we not allowed to talk about anything else in scripture except the gospel?
Pretty sure the whole Bible is relevant to today, and is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction and training in righteousness.
Chrisanthy Thymis Carbajal
Wow, yes!! The evidence is right there in Numbers 13:33!! I think many just don’t want to admit that there were actual giants (“Sons of God” mixed with human).
True Freethinker
Ever wonder why you can’t cite even one single other verse in the whole Bible? Please read the narratives in Num chaps 13-14 to find that you’re appealing to unreliable guys who invented an “evil report” and were rebuked by God: they contradicted Moses, Caleb, Joshua, the whole rest of the entire Bible, and God. Also, the discussion is about the specific ancient Hebrew word “Nephilim” so please don’t move the goal post to the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants.”
Chrisanthy Thymis Carbajal
relax, bro
and as for me not being able to “site another verse”, I am just getting into researching on the Nephilim and the verse that was posted says it all!! You’re acting like I am struggling to find the evidence for Nephilim being the giants and fallen angels/mixed human race!! Stop making assumptions.
True Freethinker
Friend, you’re projecting since you’re making assumptions. Let’s go through this so as to clear the air.
You noted, “The,” singular, “evidence is right there in Numbers 13:33!!” which is a single verse.
Thus, this was about asserting post-flood Nephilim—and you threw, “actual giants (‘Sons of God’ mixed with human)” in to the mix.
Contextually to your exclusive appeal to, “The,” singular, “evidence is right there in Numbers 13:33!!” which is a single verse, I replied, “Ever wonder why you can’t cite even one single other verse in the whole Bible?” and kept it within context by referring to, “the narratives in Num chaps 13-14.”
Thus, this had nothing at all to do with, “evidence for Nephilim being the giants and fallen angels/mixed human race!!”
Did you read those narratives rather than just one single verse?
I don’t ask just to take a jab but because, especially if you’re just getting into this research and most of what you will encounter about it is un-biblical tall-tales, it’s very, very important to not just pick up one un-contextual verse, run with it, and literally build an entire all-encompassing theory on it.
True Freethinker to the Metal Bible Podcast
Please don’t mislead your audience by being conveniently vague. I commented that to various people when it was applicable.
Oddly, you claim that you “would quickly debunk it” but you didn’t.
You asserted “There are 6 NAMED Nephilim from after the flood” but didn’t even list one—nor could you since none are.
As for, “Num 13:33 NASB20” I told you multiple times that I don’t base my doctrine on one single verse and that you’re quoting an “evil report” by unreliable guys whom God rebuked who contradicted Moses, Caleb, Joshua, the whole rest of the entire Bible, and God. Why do you side with them rather than with Moses, Caleb, Joshua, the whole rest of the entire Bible, and God?
As for, “Its almost as if the Bible very clearly says there were Nephilim AFTER the flood” well, I suppose that it’s a case of “Its almost as if” because it’s not: there’s no such statement in the Bible.
Robert Watkins
The reason why Saul is commanded to destroy every man, woman, child, and beast of the Phillistines is to obliterate the generational evil that follows the descendants of the Nephilim, and the reason why David, after slaying Goliath of Gath, is tasked with picking up Saul’s slack, and finishing the mission of destroying the remaining Nephilim. By the way, these are the named “giants” he was referring to, in addition to Goliath and Og.
”Moreover the Philistines had yet war again with Israel; and David went down, and his servants with him, and fought against the Philistines: and David waxed faint. And Ishbi-benob, which was of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of brass in weight, he being girded with a new sword, thought to have slain David. But Abishai the son of Zeruiah succoured him, and smote the Philistine, and killed him. Then the men of David sware unto him, saying, Thou shalt go no more out with us to battle, that thou quench not the light of Israel. And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant. And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, a Beth-lehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam. And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.“
2 Samuel 21:15-20, 22 KJV
True Freethinker
But friend, you merely asserted, “The reason why Saul is commanded to destroy every man, woman, child, and beast of the Phillistines is to obliterate the generational evil that follows the descendants of the Nephilim, and the reason why David, after slaying Goliath of Gath, is tasked with picking up Saul’s slack, and finishing the mission of destroying the remaining Nephilim.”
Can you quote and cite support for those very specific multiple assertions?
As for, “named ‘giants’”: the key questions are:
What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles?
What’s your usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants”?
Do those two usages agree?
I’m unsure what “Goliath and Og…Ishbi-benob…Saph…the brother of Goliath…a man of great stature” have to do with “Nephilim from after the flood.”
That brought the discussion to and end as no more replies were forthcoming.
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