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The Body of Messiah on The Watchers and the Shape Shifting Nephilim: In Plain Sight

The Body of Messiah org published an article titled, The Watchers and the Shape Shifting Nephilim: In Plain Sight.

The article begins thusly, “You will be hard-pressed to find a theological or historic researcher who has not considered Enoch, Jubilees, or at least mentioned The Book of Giants. Originating in the Book of Enoch, they are major players throughout ancient narratives that have been woven into contemporary ideas regarding mythology, religion, and science.”

I would imagine that the, “they” are, “Watchers and…Nephilim.” Also, beware of the subjective term, “ancient” since, sure, Enoch, Jubilees, and the Book of Giants are ancient to us but they’re still from the much more ancient Torah which came centuries, if not millennia, before them—and of which they are folklore, with 1 Enoch being Bible contradicting to boot, see my book In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch.

We then get a, “Summary of the Book Of Enoch” without elucidation that, as you may have noted form the title of my book there are more than one (and one of the asserts that he wrote over 300 books). So, the reference is actually to 1 Enoch a.k.a. Ethiopic Enoch, “The book was written between 300 BC and AD 200 and is attributed to him (Enoch) along with Noah’s great-grandfather…There is a man called Enoch, referenced in the Bible (Genesis 5:21–24)” but zero indication he wrote that and the Old Testament mentions 33 so called lost books but never mentions it.

That text is why pop-Nephilologists tend to use the Second Temple Era term Watchers when referring to Angels from the Gen 6 affair which took place millennia before then.

The article then notes, “The Nephilim were giants” yet, biblically contextually that reads as, “The Nephilim were Nephilim” so, the key questions are:

What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles?

What’s the Body of Messiah’s usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants”?

Do those two usages agree?

Well, we get a direct answer to the second question since we’re told, “The offspring of the Watchers were known as the Nephilim, and they were giants that greatly surpassed humans in both height and intelligence.”

Thus, the answer to the third question is no. That’s because the answer to the first one is that it merely renders (doesn’t even translate) “Nephilim” in 2 verses or “Repha/im” in 98% of all others and so never even hints at anything to do with any sort of height whatsoever.

We’re also told, “The existence of the Nephilim was one of the main reasons that God brought forth The Great Flood to wipe these fallen creatures and their wickedness from off of Earth.”

The next section of the article is, “Modern Interpretations and Symbolism” which is about, “the history of the Watchers and Nephilim has been used with a twist in various media to great effect typically by fiction” which has been done as far back as Num 13:33 and the texts the article noted.

Also, “saying that they where Just aliens…saying that these guys are ‘Lizard people’…ETs and their involvement in humanity…a grifter re-packaging the Watchers and Nephilim is disguising them as aliens,” etc.

We’re then taken back to 1 Enoch along with a mere assertion about, “the removal of The Book Of Enoch from the biblical canon” along with that, “the church omitted this particular book.” Yet, to be removed is a very different phenomena than never having been therein in the first place.

The only known canon which has accepted it is the Ethiopian Church’s. Yet, that 1 Enoch is in the Ethiopian canon doesn’t make that one canon uniquely correct but rather, uniquely incorrect since 1 Enoch is Bible contradicting folklore from millennia after the Torah. In fact, that cannon also contains a text titled The Life of Adam and Eve which claims that when God created Adam, God commanded the Angels to worship Adam.

By the way no, the article never got around to why it was merely asserted that Nephilim can do something that they’re not known to have been able to do, be, “Shape Shifting”—unless, that it, it was meant metaphorically as in that they imaginatively are Shape Shifting as people twist and term what they really were into fantastical tall-tales—such as the un-biblical neo-theo sci-fi ones of the pop-Researchers—see my book Nephilim and Giants as per Pop-Researchers: A Comprehensive Consideration of the claims of I.D.E. Thomas, Chuck Missler, Dante Fortson, Derek Gilbert, Brian Godawa, Patrick Heron, Thomas Horn, Ken Johnson, L.A. Marzulli, Josh Peck, CK Quarterman, Steve Quayle, Rob Skiba, Gary Wayne, Jim Wilhelmsen, et al.

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