Pondering “Would the subject of the giants and the Nephilim be the specific reason why the Book of Enoch has not been included in the Bible?”

To the subject Quora site question, Nathan Newhouse replied:

Fact checking obviously wasn’t high on the agenda for those that compiled the bible, they let all sorts of ridiculous claims and stories get in , but they did know when to draw the line, they knew hardly anyone would be stupid enough to take the book of Enoch as anything other than absolute bollocks.

I, Ken Ammi, replied:

Friend, “ridiculous claims…stupid…absolute bollocks” are just emotively subjective assertions and not standards. Does your worldview provide you with a premise upon which to condemn and/or imply that believing in things that are “ridiculous claims…stupid…absolute bollocks” is wrong as a universal imperative?

Corey King chimed in thusly:

The book of Enoch is a joke, it was a sect full of heretical rabbi. Who took what they wanted from the Tanakh and made thier own truth.
Even making their own set of 13 rules to determine how to interpret the Torah. To also determine what scripture to use and to leave out. Also to help solve a contradiction in the scripture if one was found. God does not contradict himself!!!
This rabbi Ishmael seemed like he was a moral person. Held up high by man, even becoming a “high priest”. But in reality the entire movement is nothing more than blasphemous heretical abomination against God. A wolf in sheeps clothing.
Be warned those who take away and add to the word God will be punished severely. My advice to devout followers of Christ and servants of God? Stay away from this heresy and all involved with it.
I mean those who live there life by the word of God as it is written. Who are of the spirit and not of the flesh. Who are in this world but not of it. Who are not swelled up with pride as the enemy is.
I do not address the lukewarm, hypocrites, or fools who try to claim disbelief in God. There is no option to disbelieve, only to worship God or man. The whole I don’t believe for lack of evidence is that of a coward. A cop out. God doesn’t except that argument.
Furthermore Genesis 6:4 KJV actually happened. The sons of God were fallen angels who rebelled against God with Satan. One of the many reasons for the great flood.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
The Tanakh and the Holy Bible KJV is the Authoritive Word of Yahweh. It is the truth and is the irrefutable word of God given to men. Anything is heresies and blasphemy, idolatrous and of the canaanites. Pagans of you will.
Be warned if you associate with any of this treacherous blasphemy you will pay severely. You will not be found in the book of life. You will be cast into a lake of fire for eternity. With the one who deceived the world. Torment and suffering day and night without end. Weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Once you have knowledge of the truth their is no more sacrifice left for your sins.

Ken Ammi:

Friend, I’d urge you to consider that you can’t wait for when some are cast into a lake of fire for eternity. Torment and suffering day and night without end. Weeping and gnashing of teeth. A unquenchable hellfire but that, “The Lord is not willing that any should perish” (2 Peter 3:9).

Corey King:

God doesn’t want anyone to perish or die. Peter likely refers to eternal death following God’s judgment on the day of the Lord. The overall message of Scripture is that God does not desire anyone’s damnation. That is, He would prefer that all would be saved. However, in His sovereignty and power, God decided not to demand—force—all people to actually be saved. If God is truly sovereign, He can sovereignly allow us to choose things He does not prefer, for His own reasons. Here, Peter shows us God’s heart for the people He has created: He wants them all to be saved, but He will not force them all to be saved.
Many have already or will willfully disobey and/or deny God. It is written, 2 Timothy 3:1–8 KJV.
3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
History is repeating itself at is written in Romans 1:17-32 KJV.
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
It not be just some either, it is written in Matthew 7:13-14 KJV.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
I am in no hurry for anything to happen. All I ment was I long for the day that I am finally with my lord and father for eternity. Those that are not of God will not be so excited. Everyone will have a choice. God is patient and giving us more time. Honestly all of man including me deserves death. For the wages of sin are death. But in God’s almighty, we’re given mercy through grace. Which no one is worthy of.
Those that willfully mock and deny God will pay dearly for eternity. When that time comes all involved will have had plenty of time and heard the gospel to make a decision. We all will make our beds and lay them.
Regardless of how I feel God created the schedule and is never late nor early. But always on time. Nothing wrong with being excited for his return though.

Ken Ammi:

Indeed, “God doesn’t want anyone to perish or die….God does not desire anyone’s damnation” but some will be, my point was that you may reconsider what appears to be your excitement at their damnation.

Meanwhile, Nathan Newhouse had added:

Of course you can believe in 400 foot tall giants if you wish, but if you had the slightest understanding of science you would know they were impossible. you can go through life believing everything in the bible to be true, but that would imply you were incapable of critical thinking, so blindly following a story book promoted by a set of money grabbing, kiddie fiddling snake oil sale’s men would imply stupidity.

Ken Ammi:

Well said, on Atheism “you can believe in” anything at all since there are no universal imperatives on Atheism.
I’ve no idea where you got “400 foot tall giants” but recall that this was about “the Book of Enoch,” that’s the context, and that book (that was written MILLENNIA after the Torah and contradicts the Bible) has Nephilim as having been MILES tall which is great folklore but poor reality.
Yet, when you write of an “understanding of science” you imply, as a jump to a conclusion, that adhering to science is some sort of universal imperative but how so, on your worldview?
You also say “impossible” but as a jump to a conclusion, that not believing in impossible things is some sort of universal imperative but how so, on your worldview?
You imply condemning being “incapable of critical thinking” and “blindly following,” etc. as a jump to a conclusions, that one should be a critical thinker and should not blindly follow as some sort of universal imperative but how so, on your worldview?
You imply condemning (supposed) “money grabbing, kiddie fiddling snake oil sale’s men” and then just double down on “ridiculous claims…stupid…absolute bollocks” by referring to “stupidity” but you merely keep typing out a bunch of assertions, you never bother telling us how so, on your worldview.

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