A certain Dyani Tor Gardening posted the following on Facebook—which ended with “Source: Google”:
Bible giants are described as remarkably tall, strong, and often violent beings, with the Nephilim appearing before the Flood and groups like the Anakim, Emim, and Zamzummim appearing after. Key figures include Goliath (approx. 9–10 feet tall), Og of Bashan, and other warriors mentioned in Canaan.
I, True Freethinker, replied
What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles? What’s your usage? Do those two usages agree?
Your usage includes, “remarkably tall” which is just as vague, generic, subjective, and multi-usage.
Let’s review:
Nephilim: The dirty little secret is that since we’ve no reliable physical description of Nephilim then their height is a non-issue and that alone debunks 99% of un-biblical Nephilology—the modern branch of which is just un-biblical neo-theo sci-fi tall-tales.
Anakim, Emim, and Zamzummim: is a list of one since Emim is just an aka for Rephaim and Anakim were like a clan of that tribe. The only relevant data we have about them is that, on average, they were “tall” (Deut 2)” subjective to the average Israelite male who was 5.0-5.3 ft. in those days.
Goliath: the Masoretic text has Goliath at just shy of 10 ft. Yet, the earlier LXX and the earlier Dead Sea Scrolls and the earlier Flavius Josephus all have him at just shy of 7 ft. so that’s the preponderance of the earliest data.
Og of Bashan: we’ve no physical description of him.
“other warriors mentioned in Canaan”: generic assertion.
So, where are the “remarkably tall” “giants”?
Biko Man replied
True Freethinker
English teacher asking his student. 😂
True Freethinker
Biko Man
Notice that, for whatever reason, Dynai decided to ignore 99% of what I wrote and didn’t answer my questions: is that because Dynai isn’t well informed about this topic so can’t do it?
Dyani Tor Gardening
True Freethinker
for your benefit, because You’re a free thinker, as your name says, I’ll give you more things to think. What do you think?
answer me first. Do you believe in giants? Giants in this modern world?
True Freethinker
I thinks what I replied to you which is: Wait, you know my intention so you’re putting yourself in the place of God by pretending that you can read my heart? Please repent.
“Use Google” why? I’m familiar with over two millennia’s worth of relevant data and have written some dozen books on Nephilim related issues: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B071NW4F4W/search?terms=Nephilim&pageId=b073a6d3-6a03-3a0a-affc-09f954edf571
When you write, “The Bible said that they were giants” you really need to be honest and detailed in writing, “The one single modern day English Bible I’m reading said that they were giants.”
Now, how can you reply using the vague, generic, subjective, and multi-usage “giants” without telling me your usage? I asked so that I could understand you better so why ignore me? Your reply doesn’t mean anything since I still don’t know what you mean since you don’t tell me. If that’s how you treat your readers, maybe don’t post on the WORLD WIDE web.
Dyani Tor Gardening
is that all of your research? I know your intention bro.
The Nephilim, often interpreted as giants or “fallen ones,” are mentioned primarily in Genesis 6:1-4 from Google. I think your browser is obsolete. Use Google, the most popular.
The Bible said that they were giants.
True Freethinker
Wait, you know my intention so you’re putting yourself in the place of God by pretending that you can read my heart? Please repent.
“Use Google” why? I’m familiar with over two millennia’s worth of relevant data and have written some dozen books on Nephilim related issues: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B071NW4F4W/search?terms=Nephilim&pageId=b073a6d3-6a03-3a0a-affc-09f954edf571
When you write, “The Bible said that they were giants” you really need to be honest and detailed in writing, “The one single modern day English Bible I’m reading said that they were giants.”
Now, how can you reply using the vague, generic, subjective, and multi-usage “giants” without telling me your usage? I asked so that I could understand you better so why ignore me? Your reply doesn’t mean anything since I still don’t know what you mean since you don’t tell me. If that’s how you treat your readers, maybe don’t post on the WORLD WIDE web.
Dyani Tor Gardening
You should answer my questions too so all will be clear. Anything in the Bible were accounts of holy people that were gone already. You’re questioning GIANTS in the Bible, its ok. It’s not really written, the world “giants” but it is implied due to statements of Biblical characters. Even you read those books in your link, you cannot say that you’re in the right place because those books were just written without witnessing those giants.
True Freethinker
Fascinatingly, I’ve asked those key questions to hundreds of people who go on and on (and on and on [and on and on]) about “giants” and 99.999999% can’t even reply—three that did got it wrong and one got close to getting it right.
Oddly, you decided to double down and again refer to “GIANTS” but how can that mean anything to me since I asked you about that so that I can understand you better but you won’t reply?
Dyani Tor Gardening
are there any meaning of giants? 😆😆 do I need to elaborate that word? Don’t complicate bro or overthink bro even you are a true freethinker.
selling books huh? That’s why your not contented with the “giants”
True Freethinker
I’ve no idea what you’re going on about except that you took a cheap shot and are only avoiding issues.
Well, issue avoidance won the day since no more replies were forthcoming.
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