To the Quora site question If it is true that the Nephilim were there after the Noahic flood, does this suggest that they survived the flood? Mark Storm (“Bachelor of Arts from University of Adelaide”) replied
The Genesis account states that nothing which had the breath of life in it (ie: land-dwelling air-breathing creatures) survived; all were destroyed with the Flood, except that which was in the Ark. The Apostle Peter, in one of the epistles bearing his name, states that 8 (human) souls survived the Flood: Noah and his family.
This does not leave any room to entertain ideas that Nephilim built their own arks, or survived the Flood by some other means.
It is uncomfortable to consider but, given the record given in the Old Testament books of Exodus, Numbers, Joshua and Kings all attesting to the existence and indeed flourishing of neo-Nephilim after the Flood, there is little option available how this could be.
Either God was ‘hoodwinked’ again, by a second incursion of angelic beings into the human genome or the alternative conclusion is inescapable: Noah’s sons’ wives, or even Noah’s wife herself, had some residual Nephilim genetic material that after many generations saw the resurgence of nephilim on Earth.
I, Ken Ammi, replied
I was with you until the assertion “in the Old Testament books of Exodus, Numbers, Joshua and Kings all attesting to the existence and indeed flourishing of neo-Nephilim after the Flood” since there’s no such thing.
Mark Storm
Either you have not read the books I have mentioned or you have a very strange edition of the Bible. The Book of Genesis states very clearly that there were giants in the Earth before the Flood, and after.
The books I have mentioned have numerous references to the Israelites’ conflicts with the giants of Canaan – beings that are described as the ‘’sons of Anak…’’ and ‘’the Nephilim’’. Literally. ‘’The Nephilim’’.
So… either you reject the Bible’s claims outright, or go have another read.
Ken Ammi
Appreciate the interaction.
Note that you moved the goalpost by jumping languages from the specific ancient Hebrew word “Nephilim” to the modern generically subjective English word “giants” so what’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles? What’s your usage? Do those two usages agree?
I commented about your comment on the, “flourishing of neo-Nephilim after the Flood” but you replied about, “giants.”
Now, this is very simple: if, “The Book of Genesis states very clearly that there were giants in the Earth before the Flood, and after” please quote and cite it.
Due to your comment, “The books I have mentioned have numerous references to the Israelites’ conflicts with the giants of Canaan – beings that are described as the ‘sons of Anak…’ and ‘the Nephilim’. Literally. ‘The Nephilim’” it seems that your usage of, “giants” is Anakim and Nephilim: is that correct?
Now, by, “‘sons of Anak…’ and ‘the Nephilim’. Literally. ‘The Nephilim’” I can tell you’re, exclusively, referring to Num 13:33 and whenever you do so you needed to mention that you’re relying on:
1. One single unreliable sentence
2. From strictly non-LXX versions (since that version’s version of that verse doesn’t even mention Anakim)
3. Of an unreliable “evil report”
4. By 10 unreliable guys
5. Whom God rebuked—to death
6. Who made five mere assertions unbacked by even one single other verse in the whole Bible
7. Who contradicted Moses, Cable, Joshua, God, and the rest of the whole entire Bible
8. Then post-flood Nephilologists have to invent un-biblical fantasy tall-tales about how Nephilim got past the flood, past God.
I could go on but see my post Chapter sample: On the Post Flood Nephilim Proposal.
It’s inappropriate to imply that if it’s in the Bible then it must be true since as per the Bible itself, it contains falsehoods. So, key hermeneutical questions are: who said it, why was it said, what was the reaction to it, was it accurate, etc.
Well, that ended it since no more interaction was forthcoming with the Bachelor of Arts.
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