This sounds hilariously stupid
—Paul Stobbs
I am leading with that quote from the concocter of the theory that Nephilim looked like clowns and/or clowns look like Nephilim, because that something may subjectively appear hilarious and stupid to us that does not necessarily mean it is not true. Many true ideas seem outlandish at when first proposed and are considered stupid and are laughed out of polite society, shall we say?
Such is what Paul Stobbs stated on the Go Fund Me page wherein he seeks donations for publishing a book. Therein, he notes:
I’m also the guy who started a very bizarre theory taking the conspiracy world by storm right now…
What we know to be a “clown” with all its colourful and wacky characteristics is a caricature emulation of sinister beings from the ancient past. These are the infamous giants and genetic abominations of the antediluvian age, the Nephilim. Along with all the chimaera hybrids these beings created during their reign, we now call the spirits of these long-dead monsters, Demons.
In their disembodied form, they look like Jesters…
Now I know what you’re thinking…This sounds hilariously stupid. I would think the same thing too if I wasn’t the one having to write the book. But I think if you give me a chance, I can convince you that this theory is terrifyingly true…
I have compared the aesthetics of folk traditions throughout the many cultures…I also explore the spiritual as we read first-hand accounts of people who have traversed the spiritual realm through the use of powerful psychoactive compounds. Through trip reports, we read of disturbing encounters…
Before reviewing these statements, we should be careful about considering the source, which is Stobbs, since from where someone is coming in terms of how they end up making the claims they make is important but we must be careful to not turn their background into an ad hominem nor genetic fallacy.
I am somewhat uniquely qualified to review Stobbs’ claims in the I have familiarized myself with over two millennia’s worth of relevant data when it comes to Nephilim (data with which I wrote my dozen, or so, Nephilology books), have done some conspiracy sleuthing, and have researched the history of clowns (specifically for my book A Worldview Review of Stephen King’s “It”: The Mystical, Mysterious, and Metaphysical in the Novel, Miniseries, and Movies).
Stobbs’ YouTube channel is called Understanding Conspiracy and he has noted, “I kind of realized everything is pointing towards that being the ultimate truth and why we even have a conspiracy…I’ve been in this conspiracy realm for a few years and I’ve been flirting with the idea of just taking that dive because you learn about conspiracy theories.” Conspiracy theorists, more like conspiracy researchers, tend to end up concocting conspiracies of their own and conspiracy could refer to something actual or a mere theory—and theories could be accurate or not be so.
Couple conspiracy sleuthing with the following, as told by Stobbs himself:
I was very much into the whole using psychedelics to explore consciousness type of thing…coming out of the new age psychedelic realm, I had taken a lot of heavy psychedelics, DMT, Salvia, LSD, mushroom, all of that stuff…psychedelics…I’d done a lot of psychedelics…I had to burn every single receptor in my brain out through endless uses of psychedelics and things like MDMA and cocaine and alcohol. I was frazzled. I was done…smoking cannabis…a cannabis addiction…psychedelic addictions, the uppers, all that type of thing…
What, it seems we must ask, happens when you combine a human chemistry set with conspiracy theories?
Well, he does note, “I had left that psychedelic life behind and after I gave myself forward Christ” and I certainly believe in the healing power of Jesus. Yet, there are no record of anyone being 100% healed this side of heaven in terms of physical ailments, emotional ailments, cognitive ailments, etc., etc., etc.
One issue is that Paul Stobbs has put that world behind him yet, he uses it as a styled hermeneutic whereby to elucidate his experiences and theory:
…entity people encounter when they take psychedelics…
I kept getting attacked with nightmares, visions, vivid dreams and psychedelic nightmare is dreams and sleep paralysis, things like that…
I was in my living room…and suddenly I was paralyzed…and the room started to spin in that very DMT-ish psychedelic mandala effect type of way which I was familiar with. And then darkness started seeping from the corners of all my vision. And it felt like I was dying…
I felt like my, my, my soul or spirit was being torn from my body and I was in the process of just dying. My brain was shutting down…
I had a dream or a nightmare where I was encountered by this strange Hatman entity. And that man is a is a figure seen by thousands of people with many testimonies all over the Earth…scaring people, especially during sleep paralysis.
And I had this vivid dream where he, after being offered tea by some dead relatives of mine and drinking the tea…in the dream, this vision of another time, another dream I had where I was in some kind of weird hellish landscape festival type place…this Hatman figure coming towards me and he is psychedelic to look at he had multiple and ribbons just flying off behind in like Morris dances in England or the Maypole dancers, you know, a very pagan-ish looking ribbon-ish, garb and dress.
But with this top this purple top hat and this purple thing, and he had a cane as well, very much like a ringmaster of a circus that it was very much like that in a way. And he was coming at me and I ran for my life in the dream. He caught up with me and I was adamant I was about to die again…
I had, you know, these psychedelic attacks, I would call them…
Every culture…have this tradition of, I dress like something to be purposely possessed by it. And they gain things from this, you know, the tribe, usually the shaman is the one that’s supposed to lead this would be the one that gets possessed, you know, the ancient shaman cultures, and they can do this and make it easier by taking things like extreme psychedelics and drugs to make the process easier, you know, but the aim is they get possessed by it…David Bowie, who had his alter Ziggy Stardust, which was a white-skinned psychedelic colored fractal pattern wearing costume, the red-haired monster…
Charles Dibdin was the Freemason, along with his son Thomas Dibdin, who owned these theatres. So he was a Freemason. He was well into the entertainment industry…basically like an Illuminati music industry mogul of the time…theatre…he was orchestrating…And he did a costume change, which basically turned the boring, servant-white outfit of a clown into a multicolored psychedelic, fractal, [what sounded like] folk-trician looking thing…Nephilim may have had similar features…the multicolored clothing of clown, where’s the psychedelic fractal pattern, polka dot clothing…
If you look at a snake or lizards, they are so colorful and psychedelic…chameleons…are the most psychedelic creatures next to birds…Nephilim would have had…multicolored fractal psychedelic looking monster thing… psychedelic creatures… (emphasis added for emphasis).
No, I am not drawing a correlation to Stobbs’ current state of mind but will quote G.K. Chesterton’s statement about, “A madman” which is that such a person, “is not someone who has lost his reason but someone who has lost everything but his reason.” The correlation I propose is not that Stobbs is a madman but that a typical pitfall in conspiracy theorizing is to latch onto one idea and plug that rubric into all things—even when one has to force-fit it.
For example, he can now consult any culture around the world wherein a certain character or shaman, witch, etc., wears a hat, can water it all down, and can assert, “Hatman…seen by thousands of people with many testimonies all over the Earth.” And, of course, since ringmasters sometimes wear hats then that somehow has something to do with Nephilim since circuses feature clowns. Sometimes, a hat is just a hat. Likewise, “psychedelics…psychedelic…psychedelic…psychedelic…psychedelic…psychedelics…psychedelic…psychedelic…psychedelic…psychedelic… psychedelic… psychedelic” must pertain to Nephilim.
Now, as for, “a very bizarre theory taking the conspiracy world by storm right now” well, I am not aware of that but there are those bottom of the barrel circles wherein it has become the stuff of copy and paste.
The Nuclear Medicine Men show had Paul Stobbs on as a guest on an episode titled Freemasonic Nephilim Clowns, the info section for which notes, “Have you ever wondered if the ‘Heroes of old’ or ‘Men of renown’ were clowns? I hadn’t either, but after coming across the work of todays guest Paul Stobbs, I’m pretty convinced. From ancient accounts of ‘clowns’ to the modern day equivalent, created by the infamous Freemasons.”[1]
Then you also get those who have plummeted through the bottom of the incoherence barrel and post things such as by a Facebook/Meta page named Clay Lee is with Mary Weeks-Jimenez based on Stobbs’ claims:
C LOW N
OWL (moloch)
C OW (moloch)
OW N
CLONE (the E is the W laid on its side)[2]
Now, since Paul Stobbs refers to, “characteristics” of Nephilim, he must clearly elucidate whence he gets a physical description of them since without such, he would have nothing to say on the matter.
Also, note that his reference to, “giants” begs these key questions:
What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word, “giants” in English Bibles?
What’s Stobbs’ usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word, “giants”?
Do those two usages agree?
As for, “Nephilim…we now call the spirits of these long-dead monsters, Demons. In their disembodied form, they look like Jesters” well, there are at least two major issues:
1) That dead Nephilim are demons, by any other name (such as unclean spirits) is just folklore from centuries, if not millennia, after the Torah: for a biblical view, please see my article Demons Ex Machina: What are Demons?[3]
2) That a disembodied entity can have a, “form” and therefore, “look like” something is an incoherent category error since being disembodied implies no form nor look, by definition.
Now, the quotes about his background in heavy drug usage came from Paul Stobbs’ interview with a certain Amy who is the hostess of the Eyes on the Right podcast and it is therefrom that I will provide the following quotations, the episode is titled Demonic Clowns and the Spiritual Realm.[4]
On the podcast page, Amy is described thusly, “a Christian Counselor and Coach…an educator, counselor, and Bible teacher, who has extensive research on the Illuminati, secret societies, pagan religions, Hollywood, symbolism, and truths that are purposely hidden…time spent with survivors and mind control de-programmers.”
I have provided as much background as I could in order to make the following critique fair from the get-go since I did not merely state, “This sounds hilariously stupid” and left it at that.
Stobbs notes, “this kind of goes back to around the 2016 clown sightings. This was the pivotal moment for me, which kind of led me to begin going down this train of thought…I just noticed that the clown was suddenly everywhere. With the 2016 clown sightings around October…” I will chime in to say that sure, around Halloween time people were dressing up like clowns and were putting out all sort of actually ridiculously produced videos of panning a camera at a clow who would stare at them menacingly and might even chase them.
But for Paul Stobbs, this was the unveiling a major and true conspiracy—and I know that conspiracy theorists will be thrilled when I employ terminology such as that this was the revelation of the method, the externalization of the hierarchy:
And I was very much, want to look at symbols and signs. I like to decode symbols and find symbols and meanings in things they were trying to put out towards as immediate, let’s say. And I noticed, I just noticed that the clown was suddenly everywhere. With the 2016 clown sightings around October, I think it was a similar time of year now, to be honest.
And the media was pointing the camera at all these clowns everywhere, which were scaring people, just kind of looking mesmerizingly in their outfits, standing on street corners with balloons, you know, some of them have claimed to have had knives and were attacking people.
And the media just made such a hype over it. It’s like, I couldn’t help but just feel if the media is pointing the camera at them, then I think they want us to see this for some reason…very much coming out of the new age psychedelic realm, I had taken a lot of heavy psychedelics, DMT, Salvia, LSD, mushroom, all of that stuff…
the media make such a big deal about the clown…The media just doesn’t point the camera at stuff.
Now, let us get right down the specific claims about Nephilim and clowns—note that the he also references jesters, “the archetype of the jester is there to make you not take life so seriously and to go against the narrative of the norms in society…The jester was just seen as a projected symbol of the collective conscious…these are like projections of a collective humanity of something. These are actually real conscious separate entities from us with an agenda.”
He references, “all the biblical research, the research into the origins of demons with the Nephilim and the disembodied spirits and all this type of stuff” and that, “after I quits all the, this is after I had left that psychedelic life behind and after I gave myself forward Christ…This is when I started to get heavily attacked” demonically speaking.
He then relates this key experience:
I kind of piece it all together, but it all kind of amalgamated in one final random vision I had around the 2015 period. And again, I was kind of just in bed. I wasn’t quite asleep, but I was kind of in that torpor going to sleep stage and then suddenly out of nowhere. And this wasn’t like a dream. It wasn’t like a flash. I was in the DMT realm, which I was very familiar with…
I was looking up at this enormous giant that was kind of melded into the realm in some weird mecha-biomechanical way. It was very bizarre to look at and it had a black and white, striped skin.
And it had the face of a pointed viper like jester clown thing with a huge wide purple smile and these big glowing golden purplish weird looking eyes. And its head was shaped like a jester’s hat.
It’s not that it was wearing jester’s clothing or wearing a hat. It was physically shaped like that. Its skull was shaped that way.
And I’m looking up at this thing and it’s enormous. It must be 60 to 80, 100 feet tall…And it’s so large that I can see vehicles flying around it that look like they were manned by an individual like a helicopter.
Let’s say a one-man helicopter, let’s say, but they were made of gold and kind of wisping around kind of like the UFO phenomena we see with the orbs here. You know, it’s things like this were all over it.
So, there you have a compounding of hallucinogenic DMT realm experience coupled with a vision of a large being with a jester hat-like head (which are very un-clown-like but he will refer to whatever is convenient at any given time) and something to do with helicopters/UFO phenomena orbs.
This led to, “kind of had this, the compulsion to just piece things together” so he hit the interwebs and, “basically just typed in, ‘clowns, Nephilim, DMT,’ I just kind of mashed stuff together” which led him to, “a parody video of conspiracy theorists” which was:
…making fun of us, basically, pretending to be a conspiracy
theorist talking about the Nephilim. And they did it in that very over the top, overdramatic history channel style voice, like the Nephilim of the past. What were they? Were they giants?
So that kind of voice, you know, and he was having these silly images coming up as he was speaking. And he describes the Nephilim and he’s like, you know, the Nephilim have white skin and red hair. And you know, they were cannibalistic in nature. And then he says there’s only one explanation for what these beings were.They were interdimensional killer clowns from out of space.
To Stobbs, a vision of a large being with a jester-like head—and all that came with—coupled with a mocking parody video that referenced the sci-fi movie Killer Clowns From Out Of Space were the key which revealed itself to him.
That led to, “writing the book on the thing with a 41-episode series, just showing that what we call the clown in the West is a purposely designed symbol, which is a caricatured image of what the Nephilim used to look like in the ancient past. And it was crafted a specific reason that those in the West could dress like the Nephilim in order to be possessed by them with ease publicly without people realizing it.”
Now, my ultimate conclusion is that Paul Stobbs has been ruined by modern Nephilology—which is un-biblical neo-theo sci-fi tall-tales. This is because he notes, “if you look at all folk traditions around the world, they follow this ancient practice of dressing like the ancestor spirits to be possessed by them” about which he goes on for some time.
If I could recommend anything to Stobbs, I would recommend putting this Nephilim clown/clown Nephilim theory away and focus on cross-cultural practices, in terms of anthropology, pertaining to emulating ancestor spirits/gods/demons, by any other name, since that is a very interesting field of research and he could gain a lot of legitimate notoriety by elucidating such things from a biblical perspective.
Yet, due to his bias, he conducts that research by employing a certain modus operandi. You see, in between all of those experiences, Stobbs, “was looking into things like the works of like Gary Wayne, Rob Skiba, Michael Heiser, all the big names, and they were giving me this information about biblical history that I just had never really considered before about the giants, the Nephilim are the reasons for the flood, for example, in the wars, you know, after the flood in the lands of Canaan, it all kind of made sense of a lot of things very quickly for me.”
Within the realm of Nephilology, names such as Gary Wayne, Rob Skiba, Michael Heiser are a trifecta of giant red flags. To begin with, those three teach/taught (since Skiba and Heiser passed away) post-flood Nephilim but that is not a biblical doctrine.
Wayne and Skiba are/were pop-researchers who made a living by selling un-biblical tall-tales to Christians. Heiser was a credentialed academic scholar but that does not mean that he was infallible and this was an area of weakness in his claims—although, ironically, it is that for which he was most well-known, at least on the popular level.
I have personally learned from those three men but that did not blind me to their shortcomings. I featured Wayne and Skiba in my book Nephilim and Giants as per Pop-Researchers: A Comprehensive Consideration of the claims of I.D.E. Thomas, Chuck Missler, Dante Fortson, Derek Gilbert, Brian Godawa, Patrick Heron, Thomas Horn, Ken Johnson, L.A. Marzulli, Josh Peck, CK Quarterman, Steve Quayle, Rob Skiba, Gary Wayne, Jim Wilhelmsen, et al.and Heiser in my book The Scholarly Academic Nephilim and Giants: What do Scholarly Academics Say About Nephilim Giants?–besides having written many articles about them and having debated Wayne.
Note a key feature of most post-flood Nephilology: Nephilim were (at least in part) the reasons for the flood yet, they were also found, “after the flood in the lands of Canaan” thus, God meant to be rid of them via the flood but failed, He must have missed a loophole that Stobbs figured out (although he does not elucidate what that might be), the flood was much of a waste, etc.
It is quite evident that from Heiser, Stobbs picked up the assertion that dead Nephilim are demons/unclean spirits. From Wayne, he clearly picked up fallacious Angelology—as we shall see.
Gary Wayne’s modus operandi is to refer to anything, written by anyone, at any time, in any place, of any genre, for any reason, watering it all down, and giving the impression of formulating a grand narrative—a vast conspiracy.
Stobbs is much like that in terms of that his multi-cultural sleuthing consists of only picking out those bits of data that he can water down and fit his premise. For example, he could have researched multi-cultural views and practices regarding little people. Thereby, he could have concluded that Nephilim were little people and rituals possess people with their spirits, etc.
Yet, due to the fallacious influence of Wayne and Skiba, we get the answer to the second key question which is what is Stobbs’ usage of, “giant” and so we get the answer to the third question: he means something vague about subjectively usual height and that does not agree with the English Bibles’ usage. That is because the answer to the first question is that in such Bibles, “giants” is merely rendering (not even translating) “Nephilim” in two texts and, “Repha/im” in 98% of all others—and never even implies any sort of hint to anything to do with height whatsoever.
From all three, he got the un-biblical assertion that even though, “Nephilim are the reasons for the flood” God must have failed, He must have missed a loophole, the flood was much of a waste since they either somehow survived the flood or somehow returned (depending on who is spinning the tall-tale) to that, “the wars…after the flood” involved Nephilim, even though there is not a single reliable bit of data in favor of that assertion.
Now, Paul Stobbs notes, “my work is an anthropological study going through all these societies and basically finding that what they call their ancestor spirits are the Nephilim or demons.” Some of the data points that he biasedly cherry picks from his multi-cultural research are that the personages involved in rituals, “dressed like them”:
…they like to dress is pale white skin, some kind of red head dress where they had feathers or reeds, they would poke it up, make up on themselves, wild tassels, multicolored frills and masks with big wide grins.
They dressed like clowns to be possessed by the ancestor spirits, which are the creators of their civilization in the ancient past, the Nephilim kings and rulers, which they equate to being their gods, their ancestors…
You start looking into other cultures and stuff and what this represents. So they’re so you’re saying they’re kind of conjuring up these. Nephilim, these spirits, these demons by dressing like this…you dress like something to allow it in is basically the predominant belief for most folk traditional cultures all around the earth…You go to every single continent, it’s every single country. And you’ll find that every country has a folk tradition. And it’s the oldest traditions, you know, the ancient rooted stuff. And you’ll find that these go back as far as even before the flood in some cases, they are word of mouth orally passed down, never changed traditions, you know, and we’re talking about going back to times which are post an ante-diluvian where there were monsters around, there were giants around, you know, these, these are the oldest.
Besides denoting his modus operandi, we got specifics about, “ancestor spirits…creators of their civilization in the ancient past…Nephilim, these spirits, these demons…monsters…giants” and we can know that due to pre-flood events which came down to us via, “word of mouth orally passed down, never changed traditions.”
I am unsure how he can be certain about, “never changed” and he is appealing to multi-cultural claims and to folklore from centuries, if not millennia, after the Torah which tell tales of monsters and giants.
Not surprisingly, he follows directing by nothing, “Gary Wayne laid out on his own book, the Genesis 6 Conspiracy, basically far better than I ever can.” So, we have a case of watering down by Wayne watered down even more by Stobbs’ watering down.
Furthermore, Paul Stobbs specifies:
…these things became the kings and rulers of the land very quickly, just by virtue of being extremely tall and imposing…giant…builders of the ancient systems and cultures, including the megalithic structures, all this type of thing…It’s explained by basically just giants, you know, so these were the king, which basically answered to the fallen angels.
Do you see what I mean by the watering down effect? Now you can claim that anything to do with jesters and clowns and subjectively unusual height and extremely hairy and sharp teeth and horned wild beasts and clubs and monsters are Nephilim related and so can be consumed by the overarching theory. We already saw that David Bowie got roped into this due to, “his alter ego…was a white-skinned psychedelic colored fractal pattern wearing costume, the red-haired monster.”
Now, the way to get Nephilim involvement in megalithic structures is to begin with the argument from silence that they were subjectively unusually tall and then follow that mere assertion with the assertion that such size gave them the ability to handle very large stones, etc. Yet, that is really just a non sequitur that concludes that large things must have been built for and by large people.
Interestingly, after decades of asserting Nephilim were giants (by which he means very, very, very tall) it merely took me asking Gary Wayne one little question for him to admit he does not know how big they were. He stated, “we don’t know how big Nephilim were…we don’t know how tall that they were” (sic.). And then, he went on to say he will keep asserting they were giants: what sense does it make to refer to the height of someone who’s height you don’t know? For this unfolding, see my debate with Wayne.[5]
…if there’s a smile on my face
It’s only there trying to fool the public…
—The Tears Of A Clown” song by Smokey Robinson and The Miracles
Moreover, Paul Stobbs noted:
…they were on the Earth, making sure that the people either worshipped them, worshipped the pantheon of gods or worshipped the sun or worshipped anything but the creator, basically…
They are accredited by most modern folk traditions as the builders of their civilizations, you know, their ancestor spirits…
That’s just our language, mistranslation, kind of understanding what they really mean. They mean the Nephilim. They mean the ancient spirits, the ancient ones, you know what I mean?
Stobbs then focuses on Freemasonry:
Freemasons who invented the clown…created a costume, which the public would think is just a bit of fun for the kids. But what it really is a copy of a lot of these costumes are found in these folk traditions. And I do believe they’ve kind of amalgamated together from the traveling, you know, the traveling men, the Freemasons, they are the very worldly…
I think around the 1800s, the traveling Freemasons took pieces from all of these folk traditional cultures, their costumes and made a clown out of it. They kind of mashed it all together, you know. And again, pale white skin red hair is the most common description of any modern encounter people have had with them……a Freemason lodge is the only one allowed to wear a top hat…all circuses, the original circuses, but run by Freemasons every last one of them…created by Freemason affiliated companies…
…that’s the base for a clown, you know, and they worked from there basically added other features on it as like a stereotypical cartoonish caricature…[Freemasonic] Shriners, they, every Shriner has a clown sect, you know, and they have to be a Shriner…they have, under the mask of charity…doing it for the kids for our children’s hospitals, you know, but it’s kind of are you though, when we understand now that, you know, you venerate the Nephilim work with the Nephilim, you’re basically the physical foot soldiers for the spirit realm…the clown is the perfect costume for that because it is, like I said, a copy of all these other folk tradition of examples of demonic ancestor worship…
Now, when it comes down to it: we have no reliable biblical physical description of Nephilim and so can only guess as to whether any other culture has accurate descriptions or not. Stobbs notes, “Lovelock Cave in America, for example, they, it has these stories of ancient [Native American] tribes, you know, fighting against cannibalistic pace in red hair giants, who they ran into a cave.”
But what is the reason to think that such had anything to do with Nephilim? Exclusively, the rendering into English of that this pertained to, “giants” coupled with the mere assertions that Nephilim were giants. In other words, a faulty premise that is then used to collect anything and everything anyone anywhere has said about giants and forcing it into a grand narrative. There is no indication Nephilim were cannibals nor white skinned nor red haired.
Stobbs continued thusly:
…just where a clown actually comes from…the first clowns weren’t like we know them today. They were more to just performers within traveling troops, theater groups. They were there to bring a bit of levity to a pretty bleak existence…street performers…they were kind of mimics…would mine people…lavish colorful, weird looking back flipping buffoons…court jesters…the very first proto clown character called Harley Quinn…traveling artists…stock characters…improvised performances…you find in the French tradition going into the North to Teutonic traditions, they have…a tall, hairy beast man with a club who had a band of roaming demons…they had this myth of this, this tall demonic, Nephilim creature with demons following him everywhere…
Harley Quinn was kind of based on the wild man…Hermes…had wings on his feet type of thing…this staff with snakes going up it and he had this magic wand…So, Harley Quinn…is literally a representation of ancient Greek gods mixed with demonic giants. That’s literally what Harley Quinn is…dressed in a black mask covered in fur with ugly nose and big wide wild eyes like the wild man…He was that demonic character…a demon through and through. Harley Quinn is a representation of a Nephilim…
…where the British clown, kind of in the 1800s, there was a performer called Joseph Grimaldi, and he was just insane…he just brought clowns to life…Charles Dibdin was the Freemason, along with his son Thomas Dibdin…did a costume change, which basically turned the boring, servant-white outfit of a clown into a multicoloured psychedelic, fractal, [what sounded like] folk-trician looking thing. He made a switch then. And Joseph Grimaldi…want[ed] to create the multicoloured face patterns…one Freemason just comes along, finds an idol who’s worshipped by the public and makes him dress like a demon…
So, a basis of a clown is white skin red hair. The most common descriptor of every Nephilim everywhere outside and within biblical theology.
Now, we have come to a very specific data point that is very, very easy to prove: Paul Stobbs merely needs to provide quotations and citations, “within biblical theology” (whatever he may mean by that: such as in the Bible itself or within commentaries thereupon or theology—not proper, of course, by Nephilologists perhaps) wherein, “white skin red hair” are, “The most common descriptor of every Nephilim” anywhere, actually.
Now, at this point I will note that due to his theory, Stobbs is either the greatest biblical scholar and multi-cultural anthropologist in history or he is mistaken. Again, he could turn himself into quite the multi-cultural anthropologist (as long as he divests himself of his biases) but as we have seen and will see all the more as we progress, he is mistaken.
As for, “white skin red hair. The most common descriptor of every Nephilim everywhere…within biblical theology”: I am unaware of any such statement by anyone in all of human history prior to the rise of the modern pop-Nephilologists.
As for, “white skin red hair. The most common descriptor of every Nephilim everywhere outside…biblical theology”: I can only imagine that he is referring to the following—and surely, some combination of these:
1) Some elongated skulls found in Peru feature remnants of red hair.
What elongated skulls have to do with Nephilim is the stuff of which un-biblical neo-theo sci-fi tall-tales are made since, again, we have no known reliable physical description of Nephilim.
For example, LA Marzulli is one of the pop-Nephilologists who claim that Nephilim were giants and claims that he has some of their skulls (the Peruvian ones) yet, he can only ever show us regular sized skulls.
2) Some oral traditions form Native Americans that were put into writing centuries and even millennia after they were first told tell of interacting with white skinned, red-haired giants.
What white skin, red hair, and subjectively unusual height have to do with Nephilim is the stuff of which un-biblical neo-theo sci-fi tall-tales are made since, again, we have no known reliable physical description of Nephilim.
It is more likely that Native American are relating cultural memories of interacting with Vikings.
3) Any reference to any subjectively unusually tall character with pale skin and red hair from anywhere on Earth and in history is watered down and pooled together into an identification of Nephilim.
We now get to the most specific statements from Paul Stobbs regarding why he think that Nephilim=clowns and clowns=Nephilim—most specific, beyond visions and watered down correlations. He notes that white skin, red hair, and subjectively unusual height are, “a trait picked up likely from the mixing of fallen Angels with humans” which is something for which there is literally zero indication.
Yet, he argues this point, “It seems to just be a strange side effect of having fiery red hair mixed with a porcelain white glistening, pearlescent style skin.” But, “It seems” to whom and based on what? The answer seems to be that it seems to him and it is because those mere assertions serve as key assertions which serve as premised for his theory.
He notes, “It just seems to be some kind of marker of mating with a fiery serpent, which is what the Seraphim described as flying fiery serpents.” Now we have the subjective, “It just seems” with a solid data point, “Seraphim described as flying fiery serpents.” Now, this is one of the fallacies into which Stobbs fell by relying on Gary Wayne. Thus, they both hold to fallacious Angelology which commits category errors that violate the law of identify.
This is because he spoke of, “mixing of fallen Angels with humans” but now of, “mating with a fiery serpent, which is what the Seraphim described as flying fiery serpents.” Thus, he jumped from Angels to Seraphim but those are two different categories of being evidence by at least three identifying distinctions: 1) they have different job titles, 2) they have different job functions, and 3) they exhibit different anatomical morphologies.
In short, Angels are Angels, Seraphim are Seraphim and no amount of man-made tradition from centuries and millennia after the Tanakh which merely asserts that Seraphim are a kind of Angel will change this—in fact, why not merely assert that Angels are a kind of Seraphim?
But as for, “Seraphim described as flying fiery serpents” it is tragic that he is making such statements on the world wide, mind you, web since anyone can debunk that assertion within seconds. We only have one biblical statement about Seraphim and therein, they are described thusly when Isaiah (chapter 6) noted:
I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne…Above him stood the seraphim. Each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew…Then one of the seraphim flew to me, having in his hand a burning coal that he had taken with tongs from the altar. And he touched my mouth and said: “Behold, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away, and your sin atoned for.”
Firstly, are there, “flying…serpents” no, and that some flatten their bodies in order to glide from off of trees does not equate flight any more than flying squirls actually fly. If you think that serpents and squirrels who do that actually fly then please ask a bird who migrates for thousand of miles about what it means to fly.
Thus, do serpents have wings (especially six of them) as Seraphim do? No.
Do serpents have faces as Seraphim do? Yes.
Do serpents have feet as Seraphim do? No.
Do serpents have hands as Seraphim do? No.
Do serpents speak as Seraphim do? No—and if you are thinking about the serpent in the Garden of Eden well, that was about the Cherub, Satan and Cherubim are yet another category of being distinct from Angels and Seraphim for the same three key points.
Thus, the only correlation between serpents and Seraphim is that both have faces and that is not enough upon which to declare, “Seraphim described as flying fiery serpents.” Yet, it is worse that all of this because this, again, is based on Wayne’s tall-tales and actually, based on a very, very basic linguistics error.
Wayne reads Numbers 21, which states, “Then the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people, so that many people of Israel died” and tells us that, “serpents” is translating the Hebrew seraph which is the root of Seraphim. Yet, he is looking at the wrong word, and it is as simple as that, this is what the text actually states, “Then the Lord sent fiery [seraph] serpents [nachash] among the people, and they bit the people, so that many people of Israel died.”
The fiery part is seraph, not the serpent part. Also, just as with imaging subjectively unusual height based on reading the vague, generic, subjective, and multi-usage modern English word giants, likewise imagining serpentine based on serpent is a word-concept fallacy since, as in any language, a word can be used in more than one way.
Thus, even if Seraphim are called, “serpents” the actual description of them will not allow us to merely assert that they had serpent-like features.
As to why the term used of them correlates to fiery, I have a whole section about that in my book What Does the Bible Say About Various Paranormal Entities? A Styled Paranormology. Some hints are that the only text about them has them interacting with the heavenly fiery altar—I termed them keepers of the eternal flame, for flair.
…Don’t you love the farce
My fault, I fear
I thought that you’d want what I want
Sorry my dear
But where are the clowns
Send in the clowns
Don’t bother they’re here…
—“Send In the Clowns” song by Stephen Sondheim
Paul Stobbs went on to say, “So, I think that’s where the red hair mixes into it. But that’s the base of a clown white skin red hair…A clown, for example, would have a wide exaggerated red smile. Okay, that’s a copy of the serpentine features of the Nephilim who also would have had wider than normal mouths, which could open like a snake, like a serpent.”
Well, we know that is a non-issue since his premises and conclusion are faulty. Yet, note how one can continue building upon fallacy, “Snakes can dislocate their jaws, for example, to eat their prey. And that big wide grin is a serpent trait. It’s humans mixed with snake, you end up with wide elongated, exaggerated features like a wide mouth.”
He adds, “And the Nephilim skulls that were found in the 1800s were said to have double rolls of teeth. They had longer than average wide smiles. Because of this, it’s a serpent trait that they had picked up. So that’s why the clown often is depicted with a wide painted on smile.” He is referring to excavations at Lovelock Cave but is merely layering an assertion that it was Nephilim skulls atop it. And is it, “were said” or is recorded in verifiable excavation reports?
Moreover, “the crosses on the eyes or the line going down, the eye is a common trait you’ll find. And that represents a reptilian slit of an eye pupil. That’s a reptilian trait, again, just mixed into the clown makeup as a metaphor, as a symbol, as a concept. If it’s not the reptilian slit, you’ll find that they paint an incredibly high brow ridge all the way up the forehead to two upside down use just above the eyes, you know, they make it look really round and large.” This too is just made up stuff piled atop falsities.
Some whereabouts, he also came up with that, “they color it in blue. Now if you do that and then close your eyes, it looks like you have giant glowing blue eyes. Again, another net for them traits. They were the glowing ones” which is something else for which there is no indication. This, incidentally, is what happens when modern Nephilologists are exclusively invited onto platforms wherein they have an platform via which to make any claims they want in a completely unchallenged manner and are interviewed by hosts who are not even equipped enough, data-wise, to even know what probing questions to ask.
He continued, “They were said to have larger than normal bulbous glowing eyes” about which a probing question would have been, “‘were said’ by whom?” Yet, he continues by building a bottomless pit of assertions thusly, “clown makeup is just a mimic of that again mixed with the big wide serpentine grin…a lot of clowns were skull caps, which elongate the skull, make it look longer than usual, make it like they have a cone head or a pin head or the skulls that are found in these mounds have elongated features”: mounds which he merely asserts contained Nephilim skulls.
I realize that this is very repetitive—repetitively erroneous—but it is important to note how he pushes a narrative until some people who are unfamiliar with the data conclude, “I’m pretty convinced.” He notes, “they did have stretched out long features like a snake and like a serpent. That’s just a consequence of mixing humans with snakes, you know, and the exaggerated size of the forehead in clown makeup with the hair on the sides is to mimic this trait once again, a net of them traits.” So, he jumped from Angels to Seraphim and now straight to, “humans with snakes.”
But he then moves from serpents/snakes to any reptilian that will served the purpose of his grand narrative, “clowns wear rough around the neck ruffles. It’s a really common thing that circular Victorian style ruffle…what it actually is a reptilian frill. It’s a trait, once again, of lizards…I think the reptilian creatures of the Nephilim may have had similar features. And it’s just another, a wink, wink, nod, nod to reptile features.”
Furthermore, Paul Stobbs claims, “the multicolored clothing of clown, where’s the psychedelic fractal pattern, polka dot clothing. That’s just serpent skin. That’s the pattern that’s serpent would have. If you look at a snake or lizards, they are so colorful and psychedelic…chameleons can change color consistently.”
But that is not all as he notes that chameleons, “are the most psychedelic creatures next to birds, which again, they may have had bird-like features too, the Nephilim. They are the product of feathered fiery serpents. What is an Angel, but a creature with wings like a bird, some would say, you know, it’s a, I think the Nephilim would have had avian like reptilian like features kind of all mashed together in this weird feathery serpent like multicolored fractal psychedelic looking monster thing.”
Key questions are who are the, “some” who, “would say” that, why, and based on what? Also, it is not accurate that Angels have winds—Seraphim and Cherubim do, but not Angels: Angels are always described as looking like human males.
Meanwhile, Amy is just taking it in, “My mouth is like, oh my gosh, it’s just dropped open” since she is not equipped to discern whether what he is saying is modern day folklore of his own making or in any way verifiably accurate.
To her, “I’m like, piecing all these things together” and asks, “But what about the red nose?”
Paul Stobbs noted, “I used to just think it was maybe a reference to the cannibalistic nature, the blood drinking nature of these things” even though we have no indication that they were cannibals.
He noted, “I looked into it and if we know the Nephilim had really, really pale skin on the face, they might have had multicolored skin everywhere else, but the white face is a really common factor with the odd pattern on there, maybe.” Key question: looked where?
But, he came up with this assertion:
…the white skinned facial features seems to be, and I looked into it and there’s this thing called the curse of the Celts…Northern really pale Northern European people suffer from this the most, which is why it’s called the curse of the Celts, but it’s basically extreme rosacea.
It’s the point where you really white skin, but you get red blotches everywhere, kind of like red polka dots if you think about it. All over your skin and on your cheeks and on your nose and on your forehead and on your face, and it’s just really horribly red. It gets blistery, it gets that bad.
And it can come with other problems like having high iron in the blood and developing something called [what sounded like] hemopro [it is called hemochromatosis] if you don’t process it properly.
But it kind of comes with this curse of the Celts thing. But one other major side effect of extreme rosacea, which only incredibly pale people get is that your nose can start to grow and become incredibly bulbous and full of pus and bright red, like a clown nose. And it’s called a rhino fiber…I discovered that.
Now, once you have certain utterly manufactured assertions in place, you can, as we have already seen, then pull anything that is even remotely related into the narrative’s black hole, for example (this quotes combined both Amy and Stobbs speaking):
…celebrities, like kind of Hollywood entertainment, they have something that a lot of celebrities participate in and it’s called the Red Nose Day. And it’s all for children…I always thought there was something weird about that…like the Shriners, you’ve got the Red Nose.
You’ve got also think about like Pennywise, right [Stephen King’s a.k.a. It character]? It was all about stealing the children.
And another tie in that I thought was really interesting was John Wayne Gacy. Have you heard of him, the serial killer, the killer clown?…there’s a lot of killers in the world who have dressed like clowns……within the last month or so, Doja Cat came out with these pictures and she was making the clown face. Like she had all the clowns, she pulled her, you know, kind of like the Joker from Batman, right? Where she pulls her mouth out and she looks like a clown…
Do you see how simple it is to latch onto a hermeneutic and turn it into a worldview? This reminds me of another modern Nephilologists, LA Marzulli, who decided that the Bigfoot and UFO phenomena pertain to his ministry’s focus: Nephilology. See, if you based your ministry on Nephilology then you will not have the sort of output that staying alive online demands. But now, he can consume all things Bigfoot and UFO by merely slapping the (click-bait) term Nephilim on it all and have plenty more tall-tales to weave.
Paul Stobbs has done this with Angelology, and Seraphology (though he thinks both are one-in-the-same), demonology, clownology, jesterology, multi-cultural anthropology, zoology, celebrity culture, etc., etc., etc.—it’s all under the big top, hurry, hurry, step right up, there’s an assertion born every minute!
Lastly, I will note that Amy and Stobbs made various references to coulrophobia, which is just subjective, and turn that into a styled primitive instinct as to why the theory must be correct, we are afraid of clowns because they represent Nephilim, “terrified of clowns, had no idea why I just terrified. Like I never had an experience where, you know, someone dressed up as a clown and scared me…a clown…they’re terrifying…as terrifying as clowns and demons are.”
Yet, clowns are frightening to some and at some years of age, due to being other. They are also world beloved for being exciting, lovable, funny, creative, etc.
Now that the average North American looks like a carnival sideshow freak it is hard to realize this but unusual looking people always draw attention. Clowns dress unlike the normal average person, they have painted faces, tend to display very bright colors of hair, makeup and costumes, and do unexpected things. That is as attention getting as it is bizarre and thus, frightening to some due to the nature of our general expectation of normalcy rather than some sort of unconscious recognition of that they are displaying features that have literally not one single thing to do with Nephilim.
Modern pop-Nephilology is a literal clown show and modern pop-Nephilologists (and some scholarly ones) come across as clowns and are to be taken just as seriously as clowns not due to that, “This sounds hilariously stupid” but because their assertions can be demonstrated to be the fallacious stuff of which tall-tales are made.
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After writing and even after posting this, I realized that I had a very, very short exchange with Paul (since he only replied once) in the comments section of his video The NEPHILIM Looked Like CLOWNS – 1 – 2016 Clown Sightings
I noted:
You made a key point but it seems to have been unconscious: You refer to “that clowns as we know them today and I’ve always known them to look or in fact copies of the Nephilim” which is literally impossible since we’ve no reliable physical description of them, and then refer to “the Nephilim that we talked conspiratorial [it appears that a YT glitch messed up the end part]
Paul as “UnderstandingConspiracy” aka “@uconspiracy” replied:
There are native tribes in North America who have described fighting pale skin red haired giants. However as the series progresses you will see that the theory moulds into a more indepth comparison of clowns to demons (the spirits of dead nephilim) and the psychedelic visual aesthetics of disembodied spirits experienced and described for millenia
I noted:
Well, I don’t consider what native tribes in North America assert as being literal and infallible truth.
It seems to me that they are expressing cultural memories of interacting with Vikings.
But since we’ve no reliable physical description of Nephilim then we can’t correlate them to “pale skin” nor “red haired” nor “giants” (if you imply the strictly modern usage of that term).
That demons are spirits of dead Nephilim is folklore from MILLENNIA after the Torah was written.
And that was the end of the stalled discussion.
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[1] “Freemasonic Nephilim Clowns,” NuclearMedicineMen: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2210061/13695064-15-paul-stobbs-freemasonic-nephilim-clowns?t=0
[2] Post by the Facebook/Meta page named Clay Lee is with Mary Weeks-Jimenez: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02ZuwofPEWXgkxr7dDsWcb8gCcPbY1vakD2SDFtrFr5GLQEeEzk8RpbMvDwhc3tD8pl&id=100079941476229&__cft__[0]=AZWQReMLSN8SbgGxT5jmZRLLds_D1aa2B9d34Oa4j-StwjC_bZy5PV0uFhGFZCSMU-mHP0CEzul3O6TGndrx6R95a54lsZYyyZvWqoruDplqUXKfH_0SyJxtIPVsT5sxuoqcVCAtgni7wmgK3sQM2u04&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R
[3] Ken Ammi, “Demons Ex Machina: What are Demons?,” Midwest Christian Outreach: https://midwestoutreach.org/2019/10/03/demons-ex-machina-what-are-demons
[4] “Demonic Clowns and the Spiritual Realm,” Eyes on the Right: https://podbay.fm/p/eyes-on-the-right-podcast/e/1698653640
[5] “Gary Wayne & Ken Ammi debate Nephilim & Giants,” Ken Ammi YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9anYMrOJg4