HEATED!!!!!!!! discussion on “Is there any recent appearance of Nephilims in 2023?”

The following (unnecessarily) HEATED!!!!!!!! Discussion took place after a certain Joe Jackson (who claims, “Studied Theology at University of Cambridge”) replied thusly to the Quora site question Is there any recent appearance of Nephilims in 2023.

His erudite elucidation was, “at the basketball thats about it.. the word is just giants… there is no special thing about them.” Okay not off to a great start but sometimes there’s hope. Yet, this is a tragic example of someone utterly destroying whatever witness he may have had and crashing and burning in a most exemplary manner—all in the name of protecting man-made traditions: he went from attempted Bible defender to childishly abusive jerk.

I, Ken Ammi, replied

The key questions are:

What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles?

What’s your usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants”?

Do those two usages agree?

Joe Jackson

As my last answer inferred, Giants are tall people. which agrees with scripture.

Ken Ammi

Fascinatingly, I’ve asked those key questions to dozens and dozens (and dozens and dozens) of people who go on and on (and on) about “giants” and literally zero have replied.

Elucidation would have assisted since, for example, I now have to ask what makes you assert that Nephilim were “tall”?

I know that Rephaim were “tall” but what about Nephilim—and please, please, don’t direct me to one single sentence from an “evil report” spoken by unreliable guys whom God rebuked.

Also, linguistically, the English Bible’s usage of “giants” has nothing to do with any sort of height—again, linguistically speaking.

Joe Jackson

zero have replied? or zero have agreed in their reply? seems a question that MANY want to answer not not answer.’

The general understanding of the word Nephilim is giants, most scholars of any faith agree with this as far as I am aware.

What ‘evil report’ are you talking of?

What ‘unreliable guys whom God rebuked?

Not sure what you are talking about there.

Regardless of ‘height’ The story of the Nephilim is NOT about Angels period, especially ‘fallen Angels’ that are not even a thing.

Having said that scripture describes the Nephilim as tall there is no doubt of that.

To me it is more important about knowing that it is believing men marrying unbelieving women.. not what the false cults claim that is nowhere to be found in scripture.

Ken Ammi

“zero have replied” again and still.

I’m unsure how it could be a case of, “or zero have agreed in their reply?” since they are just questions.

It denotes to me what I already know very, very, very well: modern Nephilology consists of un-biblical tall-tales and the people who assist pop-researchers to make a living by selling such tall-tales to them are shockingly ignorant—to the level of not even being aware of the relevant linguistics 101.

Now, you wrote, “The general understanding of the word Nephilim is giants” and you previously noted, “Giants are tall people.”

Now, are you aware that this means that the answer to the third question is, “No”? And, do you know why it’s, “No”?

As for, “most scholars” well, I wrote the book on that, I literally wrote the books on it, “The Scholarly Academic Nephilim and Giants: What do Scholarly Academics Say About Nephilim Giants?” and “Bible Encyclopedias and Dictionaries on Angels, Demons, Nephilim, and Giants: From 1851 to 2010” and “Nephilim and Giants in Bible Commentaries: From the 1500s to the 2000s” to name just three of my dozen, or so, Nephilology books.

Now, if you are familiar enough with Nephilology to comment about it on the WORLD WIDE web then you’ll know that the second reference to them comes from an, “evil report” by unreliable guys whom God rebuked so no one should believe them (Num 13, the last few verses and then onto chap 14).

Now, when you inform yourself on biblical Nephilology you’ll see how the mere assertion (lacking quotations and citations), “scripture describes the Nephilim as tall there is no doubt of that” is tragically misguided.

If, “The story of the Nephilim is NOT about Angels period” but is about, “believing men marrying unbelieving women” which is very, very odd:

1) why exclusively believing males and exclusively unbelieving females?

2) just how believing were those males that they sinned so terribly?

3) why did mere mixed marriages amongst mere humans—which have been happening ever since the flood—result in a flood?

As for, “‘fallen Angels’…are not even a thing” except very specifically as per Jude, 2 Peter 2, and Revelation.

I know not to what “cults” you’re referring?

Joe Jackson

then you’ll know that the second reference to them comes from an, “evil report” by unreliable guys whom God rebuked so no one should believe them (Num 13, the last few verses and then onto chap 14).

It was an ‘evil report’ in that they were not trusting God that the land was Good… and they needed to explore to see if it was how it was described and not Trusting God. As for people being rebuked cannot be trusted 1. Everyone is rebuked so nobody can be trusted then. 2. This does not change the hebrew meaning of the word nephilim regardless of the story or going on in the story. Nephilim is nephilim regardless…

So if it means tall people it means tall people if it means men of reknown it means that. The people may have been rebuked, but that is no evidence they lied about seeing Nephilim (it is the word used). They believed they couldn’t beat others in war… they were wrong.. They had no FAITH in themselves.

BUT lets go with your opinion on it.. Lets say they LIED about the opposition being nephilim as in GIANTS because of their fear of failure and no faith in Gods power to overcome ANY enemy. (which all those enemies feared the Israelites in reality.they just didn’t know or believe that). But lets say they went back and lied that they couldn’t beat this army …. The fact they described this army as tall (they were grasshoppers in their site) meaning they were ‘claiming at least ‘ that they were Tall and powerful, unbeatable in their minds at least (not Gods), So if they are saying this reasonable excuse to avoid conflict.. That still means the word nephilim was accepted as giants… the hearer would have connected .. Grasshopper talk that they were small compared to the enemy. Nephiilim.

So the argument that they were not to be trusted as you claim. Doesn’t negate the meaning of the word to be Giant.. and infact the way the hearer would have understood it is to have fear from that word meaning Giant. What would the point of going back and lying saying they were midgets we better not attack?. This story is about ‘lack of faith and trust in God’ context is key.

If, “The story of the Nephilim is NOT about Angels period” but is about, “believing men marrying unbelieving women” which is very, very odd:

1) why exclusively believing males and exclusively unbelieving females?

As I stated earlier some of the things you answered shows your not up with Christianity/Bible connection, the fact you say ‘which is very, very odd’, would only be odd to somebody that is ignorant of what is going on in the topic. The belief I mentioned regarding the sons of God and daughters of men are well known and ALL true Christians believe this.. (again your idea of what YOU think is Christian doctrine is far from the truth.. The many denominations of religion out there claiming Christianity might agree with your definition of it.. But that doesn’t help your case at all if you think it does…

Why believing males and unbelieving females? Because that is what it is about obviously.

Where does it say it is Aliens, or Angels. It doesn’t and it cannot be as scripture goes totally against these silly ideas. Aliens have no evidence of any kind, unless one calls these endless blurry photos in todays world of camera phones with great clarity ability, of specs in the sky that people claim are aliens.. Its embarrassing. And Angels cannot marry the bible is clear on that.so no more needed to debunk them as the ones in the story.

Sons of God throughout the bible is consistant as believers of God. (saints) Jesus was called the son of God.. Other believers were called sons of God, all future believers are called sons of God.

Note: Jesus was also called the son of MAN… representing his humanity of course. His mothers (sinful) flesh humanity. Sin representing flesh, flesh representing sin. Daughters of men (HUMAN UNBELIEVERS) in this case as the story goes. Daughters are women are they not… Sons of God (sons are men are they not)

God was against believers and non believers being together.. Sort of still is. Ultimately it came to the floods destruction. So why ‘exclusively’ believing males.. Because it says SONS(males) of God (believers)… why exclusively unbelieving women….. Wash and repeat… Because DAUGHTERS (women) of (MEN) flesh sin humanity (the opposite of God).

2) just how believing were those males that they sinned so terribly?

How so?

3) why did mere mixed marriages amongst mere humans—which have been happening ever since the flood—result in a flood?

It resulted in a flood eventually because the world became evil and untolerable. Women had and still do have the influence to a child in a normal home situation. She is with the child most of the time giving her heavy influence.. In this case ungodly influence that normal Godly homes would not have had at all.

This results obviously in generations of unbelievers growing out of control..

It is not much different today. That is why the world is almost at the same point it was then. It is almost time this system of things stopped.. It’s a different world now but its just as corrupt in different new age ways I don’t (or shouldn’t) have to list the obvious tyranny of the govts, WHO, EU, WEF, UN etc etc

As for, “‘fallen Angels’…are not even a thing” except very specifically as per Jude, 2 Peter 2, and Revelation.

Jude is quoting Peter and quoting the Book of Enoch

Jude and Peter wrote to combat the false teachings of the Jewish myths of the Book of Enoch.

Revelation you have not given any full verse (which would be helpful not just a verse reference but the whole verse as you view it in full would be helpful. Regardless Revelation is a book of symbology so most people that need to fit spooky things in like trinitarians get that wrong and can’t even understand the first verse let alone what is inside it… if one can’t get past the beginning how can they continue at all.

I know not to what “cults” you’re referring?

Mostly the trinitarian cults and Jehovahs Witness’s etc… they are the biggest culprits against Christianity . I thought that would have been obvious to one who studied Christianity, especially one who studied the Bible..

Ok firstly, If you have written a heap of books on this topic (seems like a waste of time to me but each to their own) then you obviously have a bias on your beliefs on the topic and because your beliefs are out to the whole world, there is no chance they would change no matter what I or anyone said, as you have made money I presume on your opinion on the topic and it would be embarrassing and a moral dilemma to have taken that money and then admit you were wrong, and there is a ‘pride’ factor in all of that too clearly.

But anyway I know that this is futile but I’ll answer your questions just the same as best I can, But you have already noted that my beliefs on it are nothing like the beliefs of others on it.. Others you would probably call ‘Christians or believers’ and by your questions back It would appear that you have not understood some of what I am talking about.. And that’s ok too. So let me explain for the readers watching.

You state… Now, are you aware that this means that the answer to the third question is, “No”? And, do you know why it’s, “No”?

I would have thought the third answer would have been YES… the 3rd question being…” The usage of the English bible’s GIANTS and My usage of the word GIANTS are they the same?….. That would be YES. Not no.

They are both tall people. Another usage by other scholars is giants as in position, which I don’t disagree with either and another is ‘fallen’ which I don’t disagree with either… but although I don’t care 2 hoots if they were tall or not (as its not a big deal to my overall faith or belief system), I think that the term nephilim is what ALL the biblical scholars bar none that I know of, believe it is.. Tall people. That is what Jewish people believe the word means too, so they should know the language better than I, if not the story.

NEPHILIM (Heb. נְפִילִים), a race of giants said to have dwelt in pre-Israelite Canaan.

As for, “most scholars” well, I wrote the book on that

I meant of course Biblical scholars and Jewish language scholars not Authors of non belief, so called Aliens and demons etc

The list of books you named for example have no meaning to me.. What you believe is an ‘expert’ in a field that you are debating against, would not be one to my belief in Christianity at all.. Your commentaries you have debated against in your books (without reading them) I would strongly assume that they would not agree with Christianity as I believe it or even close. Meaning that what YOU think is Christianity from whoever told you or what you have read about it via the already debating thought process you would have needed while reading it, would certainly have made you come to a totally different outcome to what ANY of the Abrahamic Faiths would really be and really believe… So in other words you would be trying to debunk people and beliefs that have nothing to do with those Faiths in reality and nothing to do with my beliefs and especially true Christianity. Or other words again. You would be debunking myths that you think are Christian teaching that simply are not.. So even though we would not agree on the outcome I might agree with you that they are as nuts as I probably would think you are on the topic. Not much offense given. If you know what I mean.

Now, if you are familiar enough with Nephilology to comment about it on the WORLD WIDE web then you’ll know that

To this I would say right back at you infact. If you are familiar enough with Bible to comment on it on the WWW than you’ll know that…….. So ditto on that.. And I feel the same way..

As you don’t believe I know much about Nephilology I don’t believe you know much about Christianity. I think where we will disagree on this one.. Is that I can and WILL admit I don’t know much about Nephilology because there isn’t much in scripture to know other than the Hebrew word which appears by all reports from those in the know to mean GIANTS.. Which are TALL people. (but again I don’t care less if it does or doesn’t, it effects nothing in my life and is a waste of time really)

I’ll answer the bible part of it in a following post.

Ken Ammi

I’m unsure I’ll be able to keep trading essays.

Friend, you appear to not have researched the evil report: “not trusting God” was the premise for false claims. They made five assertions which are unbacked by even one single verse in the entire Bible and they contradicted Moses, Cabel, Joshua, God, and the rest of the whole Bible: please see my, “Chapter sample: On the Post Flood Nephilim Proposal” https://www.academia.edu/85893647/Chapter_sample_On_the_Post_Flood_Nephilim_Proposal_by_Ken_Ammi

BTW: now you have to invent a non-biblical tall-tale about how Nephilim made it past the flood.

I’ve no idea what you mean by “Everyone is rebuked” but as for, “This does not change the hebrew meaning of the word nephilim” why would it? Also, what is the meaning? You note, “if it means tall people” but it doesn’t and “men of renown” but it doesn’t and “nephilim as in GIANTS” but that only begs the key questions you ignored.

Also, they didn’t describe any “army” but as for, “the word nephilim was accepted as giants” I have to assume you’re referring to subjectively unusual height (which means your usage doesn’t agree with the English Bible’s usage) then “accepted” by whom and when? And, BTW, if Nephilim were accepted as giants then there’d be no reason to say Nephilim are subjectively unusually tall: that’d be redundant like saying ice accepted as being is cold and then saying ice is cold.

But you’re speaking in the vague, generic, subjective, and multi-usage terms when you refer to giant or tall or small.

You’re also just inventing, “the hearer would have understood it is to have fear from that word meaning Giant.”

Please keep your shockingly unrighteous mere assertion, “your not up with Christianity/Bible connection” to yourself since you literally have no idea what you’re talking about so stop being ungracefully worldly please and repent.

It is a demonstrable fact that I literally proved that what you put as, “The belief I mentioned regarding the sons of God and daughters of men are well known and ALL true Christians believe this” is just a late-comer of a view. The original, traditional, and majority view among the earliest Jewish and Christians commentators, starting in BC days, was the “Angel view” as I proved in my book, “On the Genesis 6 Affair’s Sons of God: Angels or Not?: A Survey of Early Jewish and Christian Commentaries Including Notes on Giants and the Nephilim.”

So, you basically shockingly unrighteously and ungracefully just merely asserted that the earliest Christians commentators, for centuries, weren’t, “true Christians” and, “far from the truth” and you just condemned them all to eternal hell on a subject that doesn’t even qualify as secondary. Shame on you, please repent.

As for, “Why” exclusively “believing males” and, exclusively, “unbelieving females? Because that is what it is about obviously” just because you proclaim it obvious doesn’t elucidate why “believing” males were terrible sinners nor why not one single believing female married an unbelieving male nor why not one single unbelieving male married a believing female. The Angel view makes perfect sense of why there was that exclusivity amongst the sexes: because Angels look just like human males.

It’s linguistically incoherent and a failure in basic level reading comprehension and faulty hermeneutics to ask, “Where does it say it is Aliens, or Angels.” You can discuss Aliens with someone else, I will just point out that in any language in history, there’s more than one way to say the same thing.

Job 38:7, as one example, shows us that “sons of God” can refer to non-human beings (which the LXX has as “Angelos”).

Jude and 2 Peter 2 combined refer to a sin of Angels, place that sin to pre-flood days and correlate it to sexual sin which occurred after the Angels, “left their first estate,” after which they were incarcerated, and there’s only a one-time fall/sin of Angels in the Bible.

What you’re arguing is like saying that a certain text doesn’t refer to “God” since it refers to the “LORD” or “The Most High” or the “Almighty,” etc., etc., etc.

There are no rules that only one single word can ever be used to refer to any one single thing.

You merely asserted, “Angels cannot marry the bible is clear” so that’s instantly dismissible and also, the Bible doesn’t state any such thing. Be careful about just making things up just to defend your man-made tradition.

But you don’t seem to understand that the question “why?” isn’t about that the text refers to “sons” and “daughters” but about “why” it does so. Again, your late-comer made up man-made view can’t deal wih that question but mine does.

Same goes for, “just how believing were those males that they sinned so terribly?”: you didn’t deal with that at all, you merely preached a mini-sermon.

You also didn’t bother with, “‘fallen Angels’…are not even a thing” except very specifically as per Jude, 2 Peter 2, and Revelation” but merely asserted, “Jude is quoting Peter and quoting the Book of Enoch[.] Jude and Peter wrote to combat the false teachings of the Jewish myths of the Book of Enoch” and moved on. I’m unaware of 2 Peter 2 and so what if they both quoted it? Paul quotes Greek poets and the portions he quoted were accurate.

As for, “Revelation you have not given any full verse” check Rev 12. As for, “Revelation is a book of symbology” that doesn’t mean that it’s all symbolic, the symbols have actual truth as referents, and you can’t reject what is inconvenient to you by merely asserting, “symbology.”

As for cults, you seem to be saying that, “trinitarian cults [whatever that means] and Jehovahs Witness’s” are “against Christianity” because they oppose your man-made view about “believing men marrying unbelieving women” so, again, shame on you: there are much more important reasons for rejecting and correcting JWs.

Again, you are so utterly ungraceful, unrighteous, and worldly so please note that you have written a heap of comments on this topic then you obviously have a bias on your beliefs on the topic and because your beliefs are out to the whole world, there is no chance they would change no matter what I or anyone said but when you accuse me of holding to the view I hold due to, “you have made money” then you need to focus on the data based facts of this issue and stop discrediting yourself by the sort of trash that it occurs to you to pound into your keyboard—please, please repent.

This should be the easy part: the third one is, “Do those two usages agree?” So, “The usage of the English bible’s GIANTS and My usage of the word GIANTS are they the same?….. That would be YES” it’s no. And you’re confusing the linguistic usage of words with to what they refer: those are different categories.

Since you don’t know the answer to the second question then you assert, “They are both tall people” but that’s not accurate.

You also assert, “the term nephilim is what ALL the biblical scholars bar none that I know of, believe it is.. Tall people” but you need to look beyond the ones you myopically “know of.” Friend, I wrote the book on this—I literally wrote the book on the linguistics, “Bible Encyclopedias and Dictionaries on Angels, Demons, Nephilim, and Giants: From 1851 to 2010” and throw this one into the mix, “The Scholarly Academic Nephilim and Giants: What do Scholarly Academics Say About Nephilim Giants?”

As for, “That is what Jewish people believe” well, this Jew is not only telling you otherwise, I proved otherwise—even if centuries and millennia after the Torah, some of us came up with wild folklore: like 1 Enoch that has them being MILES tall, great folklore, poor reality.

As for your literally prejudice comments about my books which you haven’t read: you gotta be kidding me, you merely literally invented a bunch of trash out of pure ignorance: please repent, please.

I’m disinterested in your wanting to argue just to argue such as the case with your throw away rant about, “To this I would say right back at you infact. If you are familiar enough with Bible to comment on it on the WWW than you’ll know that…….. So ditto on that.. And I feel the same way” my comment was about, “you’ll know that the second reference to them comes from an, ‘evil report’ by unreliable guys whom God rebuked” so it was not a shot as your childish one was.

I don’t just believe you don’t know much about Nephilology, I base that view of the evidence. You merely assert that I don’t know much about Christianity based on prejudice and ignorance since we haven’t even discussed Christianity.

And in the end, you admit that you don’t care if you’re right or wrong in your mere assertions so then, don’t waste our time by pushing a man-made tradition onto the WORLD WIDE web along with proof that you aren’t even aware of the linguistics involved.

Shalom!

Joe Jackson

You say you are unable to trade essays yet write one back before you inevitably run from lack of ability to answer or defend your weak position.

Researched the ‘evil report’ what is that? Is that one of your books or something? You can’t use YOUR OWN books as a proof against what I’m saying..the only source you can quote is scripture to defend it.

I don’t have to invent anything to get Nephilim past the flood which they are, Tall people are all over the world, Wrestlers, Basketballers, Ever heard of Robert Wadlow? Are you even trying to be serious now? They would have come from one of the wives genealogies from the flood… are you that out of touch with how things work. However did you get a publisher.. or did you self publish..i would assume the latter.

Your waffle about me describing Nephilm as tall people is redundant.. yes to most people I wouldn’t need to say the obvious..But you do not understand the meaning of Nephilim… or Giants…. So I have to explain things to you in a way I would to a 5yo.

But even that escaped you. Thus proving my whole point of why I have to spoon feed you things I normally don’t have to even to the most skeptic.. they understand me while not agreeing with me but at least they understand me… You can’t seem to grasp English maybe its your second language and your books are translated.. I’m still baffled how you got a publisher.

You’re also just inventing, “the hearer would have understood it is to have fear from that word meaning Giant.”

You obviously did not read the scripture… the hearers clearly knew what GIANTS were to fear them.. how can one fear what they have no idea of? Seriously you have no comprehension skills at all.

Ok conintuing on. More trying to advertise your book.. quoting YOUR badly written btw nonsense to try and prove a point.. You cannot quote yourself as evidence PMSL..

So any of your quoting your own nonsense literature I will skip,.. its too stupid to bother.. do you really think I would read your book when you make no sense in a chat and can’t even defend your opinons with evidence here?

What you call a Christian is opposite to what Christians call a Christian because you are NOT a Christian so your so called ‘commentators’ comments mean ZERO to me or God. Of course those you claim were Christians are not and are naturally condemned to the grave eternally. That is Gods will have it out with him when you meet, don’t whine to the messenger

The story says SONS OF GOD (males) and DAUGHTERS of men, (women) What is wrong with you? It’s doesn’t say Sons of men.. it doesn’t say daughters of God. I didn’t mention any variants because that is not what the scriptures are talking about… I deal with THE SCRIPTURES AT HAND not what you want them to say.

As for the Angel view’ as you call it… Angels CANNOT MARRY as I showed you previously with SCRIPTURE not opinion which is all you use.

So ANGELS are eliminated from any possibility. The story says the SONS OF GOD MARRIED….. Angels cannot MARRY.. END OF STORY END OF YOUR RIDICULOUS CLAIM

Job 38:7, as one example, shows us that “sons of God” can refer to non-human beings (which the LXX has as “Angelos”).

Who is denying that ‘sons of God’ can be angels? Not me..

Believers are called ‘sons of God’ all throughout the bible too. What is your point?

Angels means messengers you realise?

You lie through your teeth every touch of your keyboard. Read it and weep……..

34And Jesus said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, 35but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, 36for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sonsg of the resurrection.

Evidently it is YOU who is making things up deliberately to fit your Antichristian belief

2 Peter 2 is about Korah’s rebellion You should know that if you have debatied this in books you should know that this is NOT Celestial Angels but Terrestrial Angels. Stop being so deliberately disingenuous

What you’re arguing is like saying that a certain text doesn’t refer to “God” since it refers to the “LORD” or “The Most High” or the “Almighty,” etc., etc., etc.

Yet more nonsense from you. False accusing is all you seem to be capable of with no evidence at all. Firstly there is no capitals in scripture lord, Lord, LORD is determined by the Hebrew/Greek words not YOUR desires that suit you. The word ‘god/God/GOD means nothing in scripture.. these words should be left as their original meanings not YOUR interpretation of words like ELOHIM OR ELOAH etc. Do you even know any HEBREW/GREEK

But you don’t seem to understand that the question “why?” isn’t about that the text refers to “sons” and “daughters” but about “why” it does so

What are you talking about now? It is totally about WHO. You are claiming the sons of God there that MARRY.. are Celestial fallen Angels. Which the bible NEVER even infers as true.. and as I just showed you AGAIN with SCRIPTURE not opinion as you only use. That ANGELS CANNOT MARRY. You deny that verse continually

Why? Because they saw the women attractive AS IT SAYS IN SCRIPTURE.. not your opinion… see how it works.. I go by SCRIPTURE you make up stories to fit your already brainwashed theory you have been coached into believing by obvious simpletons that have absolutely NO IDEA of bible at all.

You also didn’t bother with, “‘fallen Angels’

There are no ‘fallen Angels’ to deal with anywhere in scripture.. the 2peter passage you are talking about I have told you relates to Korah’s story that you would know.. Tartarus is mentioned once in scripture in THAT VERSE.. Greeks believed it to be an underworld place of the dead awaiting punishment… These dead Angels (messengers) are humans that rebelled and were sent to the deepest depths by God. So how can dead people awaiting judgement be as you believe ‘fallen angels’ are and get around bugging people. You refuse context as well as logic and common sense all to fit your ridiculous fear story.

The book of enoch is nothing but mythology it has nothing to do with scripture.

As for Revelation I did mention you lie again.

I said if you can’t get past v1 which you clearly cannot. How could you understand past that. Your story of fallen Angels is at creation times .. Rev 1.1 clearly states it is a book of FUTURE EVENTS from its authorship in 96AD (things that must shortly COME TO PASS) Come to pass means future from that writing date.. NOT PAST… there is nothing in Revelation talking about prior to that.. it is also SYMBOLIC… Rev 12 is about Constantine and when your false doctrines started.. the church v state. But you probably believe its literally a red dragon and that there are beasts with 7 heads etc. you are ridiculous

So now you don’t know what a cult is? And you wonder why you can’t be taken serious at all.

These cults I mentioned are against Christianity because of their heresy nothing to do with what I believe. The bible decides what I believe.. not some brainwashed cults like trinitarians and JW’s. Again you show nothing but your opinion

Ok what’s next. Waffle waffle.. whining about me calling you out that you make money off your heretical teachings, waffle waffle , trying to enforce power on me by commanding I repent as if you are worthy to tell me what to do when you are antichrist spirit as spoken of by John. Waffle waffle waffle, more hurt feelings because I call you out on your books seriously you can’t even word things well, and your comprehension ability is like that of a 7yo.. WHO IS YOUR PUBLISHER? Surely you self publish no credible publisher would touch anyone with such bad writing skills and I say ‘skills’ in the way you are taking it.

Since you don’t know the answer to the second question then you assert, “They are both tall people” but that’s not accurate.

I showed you the verse (grasshoppers) that proved there were tall people LITERALLY.. and explained it so a child could understand it.. how that story backs up that even if they lied as you assume with ZERO EVIDENCE again. That doesn’t change the fact that they knew of TALL PEOPLE.. or they wouldn’t have connected the grasshopper reference at all. Are you that uneducated on how language works.. seriously again your publisher should be ashamed.

Friend, I wrote the book on this

Good grief are you so full of yourself that you do not understand that you CANNOT REFERENCE your own books in this debate… Any fool can write a book.. I’ve written books myself, You are not as important as you think you are. And from reading your avoidance..accusations, assumptions, lack of comprehension of the simplest forms of English etc etc etc..the list goes on… I can tell you now.. I wouldn’t believe a single word in one of your books… because I can see how dishonest you are and how self promoting you are to your own imagination that is is not only cringeworthy to the max.. it is downright embarrassing. You have no clue on the topic so YOUR BOOKS would be the polar opposite of the facts on the topic… so it matters not you wrote a book on the topic.. I could too and it would be totally opposite.. so what? Wrote THE book on it? As if you think you are the only one that has on this topic and that its correct. Too funny dude.

Since you don’t know the answer to the second question then you assert, “They are both tall people” but that’s not accurate.

I answered every question you just don’t understand them because of your limited knowledge of the topic and the bible. I don’t even know what you are talking about here. And you probably don’t either.

Whats next.. oh more self promoting your nonsense books.. pay for a tv ad and get it over with already.

As for, “That is what Jewish people believe” well, this Jew is not only telling you otherwise

Whoa whoa whoa.. hang on … so you are claiming to be from the tribe of Judah now?

If you are Jewish you would know all those stories yet you know none of them.. You wouldn’t understand or believe NT stuff anyway yet you seem to claim you do..

I don’t believe you are from the TRIBE OF JUDAH at all… more BS from you.

You merely assert that I don’t know much about Christianity based on prejudice and ignorance since we haven’t even discussed Christianity.

We are talking Christiainity.. what are you even on about now… I only talk Christianity based on here. I know you don’t know anything about Christianity by every word and the fact you don’t know anything OT either. You do realise Christianity is based on OT and NT.. and you cannot have Christianity without both… See this is your ignorance and lack of knowledge in scripture pouring out for all to see once again.

Clearly you are so full of yourself and self importance and think you are some sort of celebrity or famous author (maybe you are a J.K.Rowlings wannabe, sure write similar stuff only she can actually string a legible sentence together for one calling themselves an author. But obviously you think because you have written some dud books that you should be considered highly or of importance.. but the fact you have written books and are so ignorant to most things is even that much more embarrassing for you really.. and I think deep down you know that’s true.. but I already hear angry disagreeance to those facts.

And in true YOU style you consolidate all I have said about you by ending on another LIE.

I never said I don’t care if I’M wrong or right. I strive for being correct and if I find Im incorrect I will admit it and correct it.. YOU however are the opposite infact you show me that I am correct.. The things you have said I have looked for clarifiacation in scripture and there has been NOTHING even close.. and in doing so have found or re found the EVIDENCE against your claims time and time again from SCRIPTURE which I have shown you some of. The rest you would reject and your epics don’t allow for the amount of correcting so many of your errors.. to be frank one line from you I could write 2 pages off the top of my head of biblical errors without even touching a bible, but 1 you would deny it because it goes against your agenda and money making books (assuming people buy them, Im sure there are plenty of sheep gullible enough). And 2. You don’t have the intellect to understand scripture at all.. you truly don’t.. you consider yourself educated.. I see a dunce honestly.. you are as biblically bankrupt as one could be.

Don’t waste ‘OUR’ time.. are you a Siamese twin now? Please tell me there is not another of you.

This is the time where you run for the hills because you know this topic is way above your paygrade.. You live in mythology and antichristian nonsense as your daily bread. Go buy a copy of where’s wally and try and find him.. that’s the best you can probably manage.

Ken Ammi

Friend, your modus operandi informs me as to why you hold to man-made views and refuse correction. I mean, you noted “You say you are unable to trade essays yet write one” but what I wrote, in modern day plain English is, “I’m unsure I’ll be able to keep trading essays.

And it’s literally incoherent to refer to my “essay” and following it “you inevitably run” when I provided an essay’s worth of lack of running. So, keep your many, many, many instances of being an ungraceful worldly jerk to yourself and that will significantly shrink the number of words you post.

You actually ask “…‘evil report’ what is that? Is that one of your books or something?” AFTER I noted, “an ‘evil report’ spoken by unreliable guys whom God rebuked” and then, “Now, if you are familiar enough with Nephilology to comment about it on the WORLD WIDE web then you’ll know that the second reference to them comes from an, ‘evil report’ by unreliable guys whom God rebuked so no one should believe them (Num 13, the last few verses and then onto chap 14).” Friend, that evil report is literally 50% of the Bible’s references to Nephilim so if you are unaware of that, unaware of 50% of the data, I’m unsure why your posting about it on the WORLD WIDE web for all to see.

It’s as if you’re not even interacting with facts, you say, “I don’t have to invent anything to get Nephilim past the flood which they are, Tall people are all over the world” but that has utterly zero to do with Nephilim, you only merely assert some correlation because you actually believe unreliable guys whom God rebuked, you side with them rather than with God, you appeal to them as if they are infallible.

If I “do not understand the meaning of Nephilim… or Giants” how come I wrote the book on that? It’s titled “Bible Encyclopedias and Dictionaries on Angels, Demons, Nephilim, and Giants: From 1851 to 2010”? But you’re projecting.

Now, since you insist on continuing to employ the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” you make it very hard to know to what, to whom, you’re referring—and then you complain “at least they understand me… You can’t seem to grasp English.”

So, let’s work on your assertion “the hearers” feared when they were told about various people groups that were “strong” and “stronger.” It is only AFTER that, that the unreliable guys on whom you rely invented the tall-tale that you believe. This is why it’s important to familiarize yourself with 100% of the relevant data and not just 50%.

You’re so utterly saturated with anger and hatred that you emote but have no idea what you’re talking about: I never once quoted any of my books but you complain, “More trying to advertise your book.. quoting YOUR badly written btw nonsense…your quoting your own nonsense literature.”

Now you’re also condemning me to eternal hell? Friend, you have clearly established a cult wherein you’re the god and prophet: a false god and a false prophet. Just because you’re saturated with hatred and anger doesn’t make you right. You just condemned thousands upon thousands of Christians to eternal hell based on an issue that’s not even secondary: what does your pastor think about that?

You also don’t seem to understand that there’s no such thing as “your so called ‘commentators’” but actual commentators and they lived millennia before I did so how are they mine?

Again, you’re so angry and hateful that you seem to have lost the ability to comprehend simple questions since you’re only interested in being a worldly ungraceful jerk.

The question was why exclusively believing males and, exclusively unbelieving females? Indeed, “SONS OF GOD (males) and DAUGHTERS of men, (women)” so the question is why? Again, the Angel view answers that question biblically, while you merely spew out incoherent anger.

You then merely assert “Angels CANNOT MARRY as I showed you previously with SCRIPTURE” but I proved to you that you actually manipulated Jesus’ words and, in your typical MO, missed the key qualifying data. Thus, you’re simply mistaken and demonstrably so.

Now, since “‘sons of God’ can be angels?” then that helps us to understand how and why Jude and 2 Peter 2 place the sin of Angels to pre-flood days and correlate it to sexual sin.

You then call me a liar as a mere assertion so please don’t play mind-reader since you’re not good at it.

I don’t base my doctrine, in this case Angelology, on one single verse like you do. Thus, note that in the one single text you quoted we’re told “those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage” but the fallen Angels aren’t worthy so, while the worthy “cannot die anymore” the fallen Angles can since they will be subject to the second death since hell was created for them and the Devil.

Here are the texts you ignored “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30) and “For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven” (Mark 12:25). Thus, we now get a better idea of what Jesus was saying and the point about “worthy”: this was about the loyal “angels in heaven….angels in heaven” which is why those who did marry are considered sinners, having “left their first estate” as Jude put it.

Well, yes, 2 Peter 2 mentioned Korah’s rebellion (and you conveniently ignored Jude) but you manipulated that whole chapter by ignoring that it’s not only about that. Why does Peter place that rebellion chronologically to before Noah’s days—aka, pre-flood?

When it came to, “What you’re arguing is like saying that a certain text doesn’t refer to ‘God’ since it refers to the ‘LORD’ or ‘The Most High’ or the ‘Almighty,’ etc., etc., etc.” again, you’re so hatefully angry that you ignored the point and moved the goalpost.

Now, when you loop back to the strict male female distinction, you again fail to answer why but you seem to be merely asserting without evidence that there were zero attractive sons of God.

You then merely asserted, “There are no ‘fallen Angels’ to deal with anywhere in scripture” and for some reason looped back to only one single point in 2 Peter 2 which you pretended is the whole chapter. Yet, as one example, in Rev 12 you have a war in heaven involving some of Satan’s Angels: or will you merely assert that humans somehow made it to heaven to fight against loyal Angels?

You also manipulated the concept of Tartarus since it’s the place for the Titans, etc. and not just a generic “place of” all “the dead awaiting punishment.”

“‘fallen angels’…get around bugging people” since their bodies are in Tartarus but their spirits roam the Earth as demons, by any other name. See my article “Demons Ex Machina: What Are Demons” for a biblical view.

It’s incoherent to merely assert, “Rev 1.1 clearly states it is a book of FUTURE EVENTS from its authorship in 96AD” as if that mean that the narrative isn’t allowed to build a narrative via history or mention anything from prior to 96AD: that’s not how hermeneutics, basic reading comprehension is done. Besides, you’re using that to ignore the statements in Rev 12: do you reject that the child mentioned there is Jesus? If you accept that it is then well, he was born prior to 96AD so there goes your myopic theory.

Okay then, since “These cults I mentioned are against Christianity because of their heresy nothing to do with what I believe” then they’re a non-issue to our discussion.

Indeed you “showed…the verse (grasshoppers)” which you merely assert “proved there were tall people LITERALLY” but that’s not about “tall people” in general but about Nephilim in particular and, again, you believe guys whom God rebuked: I believe the God who rebuked them.

Again, “you CANNOT REFERENCE your own books in this debate” is an incoherent pseudo-standard and I will leave you to the rest of your hatefully angry incoherent rant.

I am Jewish and have familiarized myself with over two millennia worth of “all those stories” which is part of how I know that you’re holding to man-made tall-tales.

If you “strive for being correct” then change your views since I’ve proved time and again that you have to manipulate little bits of data in order to put forth your man-made views. Meanwhile, I keep providing you biblically verifiable data—which you, in turn, either conveniently ignore or manipulate.

I look forward to hearing about what your pastor thinks of you condemning thousands of Christians to eternal damnation and what makes you think that you’re a skilled mind reader.

Shalom and please repent—please!

Joe Jackson

Friend, your modus operandi informs me as to why you hold to man-made views and refuse correction. “I’m unsure I’ll be able to keep trading essays.

YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO CORRECT ME AND HAVE NO TRUTH TO CORRECT ME WITH

YOU CLAIM YOU WON’T BE TRADING ESSAYS YET KEEP WRITING THEM

IF YOU THINK I’M GOING TO RESPOND SHORT ANSWERS TO YOUR RIDICULOUS NOVELS, THINK AGAIN. I WILL BE ANSWERING EVERY POINT THAT IS INCORRECT.. AND THAT REQUIRES ME WRITING LONG POSTS BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH TO CORRECT.

ungraceful worldly jerk to yourself and that will significantly shrink the number of words you post.

NO YOU ARE THE JERK AND A LYING ONE AT THAT. AS STATED THE REASON MY POSTS ARE SO LONG IS I HAVE SO MUCH TO CORRECT FROM YOUR WAFFLING NOVEL ANSWERS. AND BECAUSE YOUR INABILITY TO SET OUT A RESPONSE IN A MANNER THAT IS EASILY READABLE IN QUESTION ANSWER RETORT.. TRY DOING HOW I DO SO IT MAKES SENSE WHO IS SAYING WHAT TO THE OTHER READERS. I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU HAVE HAD ANY BOOKS PUBLISHED YOUR PUBLISHER EITHER HASN’T READ YOUR STUFF FULLY, OR HAS TO DO A MOUNTAIN OF EDITING AND CORRECTING OR YOU SELF PUBLISH YOUR OWN DOGS BREAKFAST OF WRITING.

Friend, that evil report is literally 50% of the Bible’s references to Nephilim so if you are unaware of that, unaware of 50% of the data, I’m unsure why your posting about it on the WORLD WIDE web for all to see.

I HAD TO DELETE MOST OF THIS REPETITIVE PARAGRAPH YOU KEEP REHASHING OVER AND OVER. WITH NO WHO SAID WHAT IN IT TO BE FOUND. AND YOU WROTE YOUR NOT YOU’RE AND YOU ARE AN AUTHOR.. NORMALLY I DON’T CARE ABOUT TYPOS AND GRAMMAR..BUT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AN AUTHOR AND ARE TAKING MONEY FROM GULLIBLE PEOPLE UNDER THAT FRONT.

AS FOR YOUR 50% WHATEVER, AGAIN YOU JUST GIVE OPINIONS WITH NO FACTS. THE NEPHILIM ARE CONSIDERED GIANTS BY ALL SCHOLARS OF ALL FAITHS. YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON ON PLANET EARTH THAT DISAGREES WITH THE WORD MEANING AND CONTEXT OF THE STORY.. TRY HARDER .. LIE LESS.

YOU DENY TALL PEOPLE EXIST TODAY PAST THE FLOOD… NOT ME… I HAVE SEEN GIANTS AT BASKETBALL GAMES.. AND IN GENERAL PUBLIC AND KNOW SOME PERSONALLY. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR SOLO MEANING OF THE WORD DOESN’T MEAN ANYTHING TO THE REALITY OF THE MATTER. GOD REBUKING THE SPIES MEANS NOTHING.. I HAVE EXPLAINED MANY TIMES TO YOU HOW THE FACT THE OTHERS UNDERSTOOD THE TERM GRASSHOPPERS MEANS THEY KNEW THE CONTEXT WAS ABOUT GIANTS.. WHETHER THEY LIED OR NOT… DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LOGIC AT ALL? YOU HAVE ZERO.

ANYONE CAN WRITE A BOOK ON ANYTHING IT DOESN’T MAKE THEM AN EXPERT OR EVEN KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT THE TOPIC THEY WRITE ABOUT.. YOU KEEP CLAIMING BECAUSE YOU WROTE A BOOK ON SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IN A BIBLICAL SENSE AT ALL.. THAT YOU ARE SOME LEADING EXPERT.. YOU ARE A DOLT ON THE TOPIC.. ITS THAT SIMPLE. YOU ARE JUST PROMOTING A BOOK OF FABLE EVERY CHANCE YOU GET. NOTHING MORE.

YOU DON’T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND ENGLISH..THAT IS FACT TOO.. IT MUST BE YOUR 2ND LANGUAGE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT GRASP SIMPLE COMPREHENSION OF THE LANGUAGE AT ALL.. ITS LIKE TALKING TO A MONKEY.

FOR THE 5TH TIME AT LEAST… IT MATTERS NOT IF THE SPIES WERE LYING (LIKE YOU DO).. WHAT THEY SAID WAS UNDERSTOOD… IT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN UNDERSTOOD WITHOUT THE HEARER KNOWING WHAT GIANTS WERE… ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE… YOUR WHOLE ARGUMENT IS BASED ON THE ‘UNRELIABILITY’ OF THE SPIES, BUT THAT IS 100% IRRELEVANT, AND YOU ARE PROJECTING. THE STORY CLEARLY SHOWS THE WORD GIANTS WAS UNDERSTOOD TO THE HEARER EVEN IF THE SPIES NEVER SAW GIANTS AT ALL. SERIOUSLY THIS IS PRIMARY SCHOOL LEVEL THINKING.. DID YOU GO TO HIGH SCHOOL AT ALL

NOW YOU TAKE YOUR LYING TO A NEW LEVEL.. YOU HAVE BEEN PROMOTING YOUR BOOKS NAMING THEM THIS WHOLE BACK AND FORTH YOU DID AGAIN IN THIS VERY CHAT ABOVE… YOU MUST HAVE SOME SERIOUS LYING ISSUES THAT NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP AND THAT IS A FACT LIKE IT OR NOT. THEN YOU CLAIM (VEER) THAT I AM FULL OF ANGER.. WHILE YOU RANT AND RAVE AND SPIT YOUR DUMMY OUT IF PEOPLE DON’T TAKE YOUR UTTER NONSENSE AND DELUSION SERIOUSLY. I’M NOT ANGRY.. I’M JUST TELLING IT HOW IT IS.. PEOPLE WHO HAVE ISSUES HATE TRUTH BEING TOLD ABOUT THEM AND ALWAYS RESORT TO THE OLD ‘YOUR HURTING MY FEELINGS..YOU ARE ANGRY ROUTINE… DUDE THAT CRAP WON’T WORK HERE.. YOU AREN’T TALKING TO YOUR WIFE NOW.

AND MORE PROJECTING AND VEERING TO AVOID THE TOPIC AT HAND AS USUAL

MORE HURT FEELING ANGER BACK AT BECAUSE I DON’T FALL FOR YOUR CON JOB.

I’M NOT THE ONE CONDEMNING YOU TO HELL.. YOU ARE.. ITS YOU WHO CHOOSES THAT PATH.. DON’T BLAME ME FOR YOUR ISSUES. AS FOR THOUSANDS OF CHRISTIANS.. ALL CHRISTIANS GO TO HELL BECAUSE IT IS THE GRAVE… EVERYONE GOES TO HELL.. (IF YOU KNEW SOME HEBREW/GREEK AND BIBLE… YOU WOULD KNOW THAT.. BUT YOU HAVE NO CLUE PERIOD).

NO TRUE CHRISTIAN IS GOING TO STAY THERE ETERNALLY LIKE YOU THOUGH.. AND I NEVER SAID THEY WOULD.. MORE LIES ON YOUR PART.

You also don’t seem to understand that there’s no such thing as “your so called ‘commentators’” but actual commentators and they lived millennia before I did so how are they mine?

WHAT COMMENTATORS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Again, you’re so angry and hateful that you seem to have lost the ability to comprehend simple questions since you’re only interested in being a worldly ungraceful jerk.

MORE VEERING VIA WAY OF NAME CALLING AND BLAME, AND HURT FEELINGS.. SEEMS ALL YOU CAN DO IS DODGE AND VEER.

SONS OF GOD (males) and DAUGHTERS of men, (women)” so the question is why? Again, the Angel view answers that question biblically, while you merely spew out incoherent anger.

THE ANGEL VIEW I DEBUNKED FROM SCRIPTURE… not like you do WITH YOUR OPINIONS. ANGELS CANNOT MARRY

proved to you that you actually manipulated Jesus’ words and, in your typical MO, missed the key qualifying data. Thus, you’re simply mistaken and demonstrably so.

NO.. YOU GAVE OPINION THAT DID NOT MATCH WITH THE SCRIPTURE I GAVE PROVING ANGELS CANNOT MARRY. YOU CAN’T JUST CLAIM A SCRIPTURE IS A LIE WITH YOUR OPINON.

Jude and 2 Peter 2 place the sin of Angels to pre-flood days and correlate it to sexual sin.

AS I SHOWED YOU IN SCRIPTURE.. 2 PETER 2 IS TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE BEFORE THE FLOOD WHO WERE TAKEN TO TARTARUS. YOUR OPINION AGAIN DOES NOT TRUMP SCRIPTURE

You then call me a liar as a mere assertion so please don’t play mind-reader since you’re not good at it.

I CALLED YOU A LIAR BECAUSE YOU LIE.. NO OTHER REASON.

YOU BELIEVE THAT YOUR OPINION OVERRIDES SCRIPTURE.. YOU LIE

YOU LIE AGAIN… AND DELIBERATELY SO TO PUSH YOUR AGENDA

JESUS WAS ASKED ABOUT WHO MARRIES WHO IN THE KINDGOM, HE ANSWERED BY SAYING NOBODY (HUMANS ASKING) WILL MARRY IN THE KINGDOM AS THEY WILL BE LIKE THE ANGELS (CELESTIAL) WHO CAN NOT AND DO NOT MARRY.

SO GET THE CONTEXT.. THIS IS JESUS ANSWERING HUMANS IF THEY WILL MARRY AND JESUS ANSWERING THEM THAT NO THEY WON’T JUST LIKE THE ANGELS DON’T AND HAVE NEVER.

YOUR DISHONESTY SHOWS EVER DECEIPTFUL ATTEMPT TO PUT YOUR ANTICHRISTIAN BELIEFS INTO THE SCRIPTURES TRYING TO CONVINCE THE READER YOU ARE THE ONE BEING HONEST WHEN ITS CLEARLY SHOWING YOU HAVE NOTHING HONEST ABOUT YOU.. YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO SELL YOUR BOOKS FOR PROFIT AND DON’T KNOW THE BIBLE TO DEFEND YOUR NONSENSE.. AND YOU RELY ON PEOPLE BEING UNAWARE OF SCRIPTURE TO PEDDLE YOUR WARES. THIS IS WHY YOU DEBATE ME SO HARD BECAUSE YOU KNOW IM EXPOSING YOUR SCAM AND THE READER WILL SEE YOUR AGENDA.. ITS ALL ABOUT $$$$$$$$ FOR YOU.. AND NOTHING ELSE.

AND THERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF YOUR POISON..

ANYBODY READING THE WHOLE PASSAGE WILL SEE YOUR DISHONESTY NOW.. IT IS 100% CLEAR THIS PASSAGE IN CONTEXT IS TALKING ABOUT JESUS TELLING HIS FOLLOWERS THAT IN THE RESURRECTION TO THE NEW KINGDOM AND ETERNAL LIFE, THEY WILL NOT MARRY JUST LIKE THE ANGELS (ALL ANGELS EVER) HAVE NOT MARRIED.. THERE IS NO MARRIAGE IN ETERNITY. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT AND MESSAGE OF WHAT WAS ASKED AND TRUTHFULLY ANSWERED BY JESUS

YOUR NONSENSE ADDITION AND CLAIMING ITS TALKING ABOUT GOOD AND BAD ANGELS IS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN IN THAT PASSAGES WORDS, CONTEXT OR ALLUSION. YOU ARE PEDDLING YOUR BAD ANGEL WARES FOR PROFIT NOTHING MORE.

I DID NOT IGNORE JUDE AT ALL.. I ANSWER YOU IN GREAT DETAIL BECAUSE YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND BIBLE PERIOD..SO HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU LIKE YOU ARE 5. MOST PEOPLE KNOW THESE STORIES, YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THEM.. IF I WAS TO DUMB IT DOWN MORE FOR YOU THEN IT WOULD MEAN MY POSTS WOULD BE MUCH LONGER STILL. ALREADY ITS LIKE SPOON FEEDING A BABY WITH A NUMB TONGUE.

MORE VEER AND WEAVING AND CRYING TO AVOID FACTS, COME ON BUTTERCUP, DEBATE THE TOPIC DON’T TURN INTO A BLUE HAIRED SJW AGAIN.

Now, when you loop back to the strict male female distinction, you again fail to answer why but you seem to be merely asserting without evidence that there were zero attractive sons of God.

ARE YOU FOR REAL? SERIOUSLY? ARE YOU THAT THICK?

THE BIBLE SAYS SONS OF GOD.. THAT MEANS THE BIBLE IS TALKING ABOUT MALES… SIMPLE AS THAT

THE BIBLE SAYS DAUGHTERS OF MEN… THAT MEANS THE BIBLE IS TALKING ABOUT FEMALES IN THAT LINE….. SIMPLE AS THAT

MAYBE YOU ARE ONE OF THESE BIOLOGY DENYING GENDERFREAKS WHO THINK YOU CAN JUST IDENTIFY AS THE OPPOSITE GENDER. AND THAT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME AT ALL.. NOT AT ALL.

BUT I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT CRAP, SONS MEANS MEN.. DAUGHERS MEANS WOMEN.. SIMPLE AS THAT.. AND YOUR SIDESTEPPING ON THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS.

I DIDN’T FAIL TO ANSWER ANYTHING, I ANSWER IN DETAIL THAT A BABY WOULD UNDERSTAND BUT THAT GOES OVER YOUR HEAD BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR AGENDA AND MONEY TO WORRY ABOUT.

I NEVER MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT ATTRACTIVE SONS OF GOD.. THE STORY ISN’T ABOUT THE SONS ATRACTIVENESS ITS ABOUT THE WOMENS… THE BELIEVERS SAW THE UNBELIEVING WOMEN WERE HOT.. DOES THAT MAKE MORE SENSE TO YOU.. I DOUBT IT. ARE YOU GAY?

You then merely asserted, “There are no ‘fallen Angels’ to deal with anywhere in scripture” . Yet, as one example, in Rev 12 you have a war in heaven involving some of Satan’s Angels: or will you merely assert that humans somehow made it to heaven to fight against loyal Angels?

NOT ASSERTION.. FACT.

2PETER TALKING ABOUT MEN (KORA) AS THE FALLEN MESSENGERS IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT MENTIONS THE BAD RENDERING THAT SOME BIBLES USE TO REFER TO FALLEN HUMAN BELIEVERS (NOT CELESTIAL ANGELS)

NO OTHER VERSE MENTIONS ANY SUCH NONSENSE OF ANGELS FALLING FROM GRACE EVER

YOUR REV 12 VERSE IS ABOUT AS I TOLD YOU.. CONSTANTINE AND STATE V CHURCH.. IT IS ‘SYMBOLIC’ AS I MENTIONED REGARDING YOU NOT GETTING PAST REV 1.1

AND THAT IS ALSO WHY I SAID YOU WOULDN’T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE REV 1.1 SAYS IT IS ‘’FUTURISTIC’’ AS I SHOWED. MEANING YOUR ‘FALLEN ANGEL’ NONSENSE YOU CLAIM HAPPENED AT CREATION… COULD NOT BE THE REV 12 STORY, BECAUSE THE REV 12 STORY HAPPENED AFTER 96AD WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN THAT IT WOULD BE SYMBOLISING THINGS ‘’’’TO COME TO PASSS’’’ (FUTURE) NOT PAST AS YOU CLAIM.

You also manipulated the concept of Tartarus since it’s the place for the Titans, etc. and not just a generic “place of” all “the dead awaiting punishment.”

NO I NEER.. TARTARUS IS ONLY USED ONE TIME IN SCRIPTURE.. IT IS THE DEEPEST DEPTHS OF THE EARTH. WHICH WAS STILL THE GRAVE FOR KORAH. READ THAT STORY IN CONTEXT TO SEE WHAT HE WENT TO THE DEEPEST DEPTHS NOT JUST A NORMAL GRAVE.

BUT A GRAVE ALL THE SAME.. HE WAS DEAD AS A DOOR NAIL LIKE EVERYONE IN THE GRAVE (HELL/SHEOL/HADES) ALL SAME PLACE.

TITANS ARE NOT IN THE BIBLE.. THAT IS MORE MYTHOLOGY YOU BELIEVE IN.

MORE ADVERTISING OF YOUR BS BOOKS… I WOULDN’T READ YOUR CRAP IF YOU PAID ME MILLIONS… I TRULY WOULDN’T. YOU CAN’T EVEN UNDERSTAND ENGLISH OR WRITE IT PROPERLY, AND HAVE NO COMPREHENSION ABILITY WHATSOEVER YET KEEP PEDDLING YOUR BOOKS WHILE CLAIMING YOU NEVER DO.. WHAT A LIAR

NOTHING IN YOUR ABOVE COMMENT IS BIBLICAL.. ITS ALL SCARE RUBBISH. THIS IS WHAT YOU RELY ON.. FEAR TO MAKE MONEY.. JUST LIKE THE CHURCHES DO YOU ARE NO BETTER.

It’s incoherent to merely assert, “Rev 1.1 clearly states it is a book of FUTURE EVENTS from its authorship in 96AD

NO.. IT IS EXACTLY WHAT REV 1:1 STATES.. EXACTLY

SIGNED (MEANS SYMBOLISED) ITS NOT LITERAL…

COME TO PASS (MEANS IN THE FUTURE)

The BOOK OF REV STATES EMPHATICALLY THAT ALL WITHIN ITS COVERS IS FUTURISTIC AND SYMBOLISED

SHOW ME A 7 HEADED DRAGON? OR FOSSILS OF SUCH

YOUR STORY OF FALLEN ANGELS AT CREATION ARE NOT ONLY NONSENSE AND LIES THEY CANNOT EVER BE SAID TO BE IN THE BOOK OF REV AS CREATION WAS CLEARLY BEFORE THE FIRST CENTURY

YOU ARE THE BIGGEST LIAR EVER.. NO DOUBT.

Besides, you’re using that to ignore the statements in Rev 12: do you reject that the child mentioned there is Jesus? If you accept that it is then well, he was born prior to 96AD so there goes your myopic theory.

NO I ANSWERED IN DETAIL ENOUGH RE REV 12. AND NOTHING YOU CLAIM IS IN IT IS WRITTEN ANYWHERE AT ALL. YOU ARE JUST LYING MORE AND MORE ABOUT THAT.

YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS SYMBOLIC SO THE ONUS IS ON YOU TO PROVE A LITERAL 7 HEADED DRAGON BEFORE REV CAN CONTINUE.. ITS ABOUT POLITICAL WAR ON EARTH CENTURIES AFTER CHRIST, BUT THAT IS WAY OVER YOUR HEAD.

Again, “you CANNOT REFERENCE your own books in this debate” is an incoherent pseudo-standard and I will leave you to the rest of your hatefully angry incoherent rant.

THE AUDACITY THAT YOU THINK YOU CAN USE YOUR RIDICULOUS BOOKS TO DEBATE ME ON SCRIPTURE IS PROPOSTEROUS. THAT IS LIKE USING BIBLE TO DEBATE A MUSLIM OR THE KORAN TO DEBATE AN EVOLUTIONIST. I ALREADY KNOW YOUR WAY OF THINKING SO WHY WOULD I ACCEPT ANYTHING YOUR BOOK HAS TO OFFER..IF YOU CAN’T DEBATE WITHOUT TRYING TO MAKE SOME MORE DOLLARS PEDDLING YOUR BOOK.. THAT JUST SHOWS YOU LOST LONG AGO.. WHICH YOU DID YOU JUST CAN’T HANDLE THAT FACT. YOUR TITANIC HAS SUNK..YOU CAN LET GO NOW.. NOBODY BELIEVES YOU WILL FLOAT BACK UP TO THE TOP ALIVE.

I am Jewish and have familiarized myself with over two millennia worth of “all those stories” which is part of how I know that you’re holding to man-made tall-tales.

YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW THE OLD TESTAMENT SO JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE JEWISH BLOODLINES (NOT THAT I BELIEVE THAT AS YOU CAN’T TELL ME WHICH TRIBE YOU ARE FROM) HAHA. TICK TICK….. (SHLTTTSI). YOU QUOTE THE NT MORE THAN THE OLD BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE NO CLUE ON IT.. YOU DON’T KNOW ANY HEBREW MEANINGS AT ALL.

YOU ARE A FAKE AND FRAUD. AND YOU KNOW I KNOW IT.

YOU CAN CALL IT ‘MAN MADE’ VIEWS ALL YOU LIKE.. BUT ANYONE WATCHING THIS.. . IS SEEING I AM THE ONLY ONE CLAIMING SCRIPTURE (GODS WORD) WHILE YOU ARE ONLY EVER QUOTING YOUR OPINON (MAN MADE WORDS .. SO IT IS YOU WHO LIE AGAIN AND TWIST TRUTH.

Meanwhile, I keep providing you biblically verifiable data—

THEN YOU LIE BY CLAIMING ‘’YOU’’ ARE THE ONE PROVIDING BIBLE.. WHILE NEVER DOING THAT.

I look forward to hearing about what your pastor thinks of you condemning thousands of Christians to eternal damnation and what makes you think that you’re a skilled mind reader.

UNLIKE YOU I DON’T HAVE AN INDOCTRINATOR. BUT DO TELL ME WHAT YOUR RABBI THINKS OF YOUR NOT KNOWING ANYTHING FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT. DO YOU TELL HIM YOU LIE ABOUT YOUR CLAIM OF ME CONDEMNING THOUSANDS OF CHRISTIANS TO ETERNAL DAMNATION WHEN I HAVE NOT CONDEMNED ANY TO THIS IMAGINARY PLACE THAT ANY RABBI WOULD KNOW DOESN’T EXIST.

Shalom and please repent—please!

ENDING ON A DISHONEST VIRTUE SIGNAL IS SO YOU.

Ken Ammi

Joe says, “YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO CORRECT ME.”

Timothy, “be ready in season and out of season; correct, rebuke, and exhort” (2 Timothy 4:2).

BTW: I “HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO CORRECT” you but you do have, “AUTHORITY TO CORRECT” me: I’m unsure how that’s cogent.

You, once again, merely asserted that I lied but you’re just being a worldly ungraceful jerk: you invented the assertion that I lied, I didn’t lie.

“50% WHATEVER” perfectly put, you were unaware of the “evil report” until I pointed it out to you so that means you were missing 50% of the Biblical data about an issue on which you were commenting—and you don’t seem to care, your focus is being very angry and hateful: please repent.

It’s fascinating that you complain about verbosity but you keep making the same blunders and so I have to keep pointing them out again. When you say, “NEPHILIM ARE CONSIDERED GIANTS” that contextually biblically means, “NEPHILIM ARE CONSIDERED NEPHILIM.”

I literally wrote the book on the issue of the linguistics so I’m very aware that you aren’t familiar with the relevant data.

Since you’re under the misconception that Nephilim were “tall” by definition (and that, what, all tall people in history are Nephilim?) you misread the Bible so that “TALL PEOPLE EXIST TODAY PAST THE FLOOD” must mean that Nephilim made it past the flood: of course, you’re contradicting the Bible five times when you assert that. But that incoherent assertion still doesn’t tell me how it is that God failed, how you figured out a loophole that God missed, etc.

Again, you argue just to argue and waste out time since I already told you that of course, “OTHERS UNDERSTOOD THE TERM GRASSHOPPERS MEANS THEY KNEW THE CONTEXT WAS ABOUT GIANTS”: that was because they fell for the deception. The 10 spies merely asserted that they saw that and, “OTHERS” merely believed them.

Please stop filling your essays with stuff that you first make up and then complain about, it’s you who wrote, “SOME LEADING EXPERT” but I never did so, please argue against yourself on your own time.

And note that since you ranted against your own fantasy, you, once again, failed to deal with the issue I raised: that’s what happens when you pound your all-caps and bold keyboard out of hateful anger—please repent.

Same with, “since you insist on continuing to employ the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word ‘giants’ you make it very hard to know to what, to whom, you’re referring—and then you complain ‘at least they understand me… You can’t seem to grasp English’”: you ignored the issue, once again.

Now, you are the one misunderstanding the issue since you seem to have forgotten the context due to being utterly desperate to argue about anything and everything. This was not about the fact that, “WHAT THEY SAID WAS UNDERSTOOD” but about that what was said and understood wasn’t true. Also, you say, “THE WORD GIANTS WAS UNDERSTOOD” but you don’t seem to realize that biblically, that reads this way, “THE WORD ***Nephilim*** WAS UNDERSTOOD.”

I noted, “I never once quoted any of my books” and rather than accepting that demonstrable fact, you spew even more hateful anger, “YOU HAVE BEEN PROMOTING” but what you call, “PROMOTING” isn’t quoting. So, maybe your hateful anger about not comprehending English was just another case of you projecting.

You seem to be tragically unaware that no cogent person in the history of Christianity would even imagine condemning someone to eternal damnation for the reasons (excuses) that you use. You say I’m condemning myself to hell but there’s not a single word in the entire Bible nor cogent Christian theologizing (or, soteriology) about anyone ever being hell bound due to an issue that isn’t even secondary. The problem is that you are clearly saturated with hateful anger—and refuse biblical correction—which is why no cogent Christian in the past two millennia agrees with you: please repent.

As for, “ALL CHRISTIANS GO TO HELL BECAUSE IT IS THE GRAVE” well, I wrote an entire book just about that so I kwon you’re simply and demonstrably mistaken. The word that you read as, “hell” in your English Bible is actually usage to render (not even translate) various Hebrew and Greek words and so, “GRAVE” is you being myopic. Please see my book, “What Does the Bible Say About Heaven and Hell?: A Styled Superumology and Infernology.”

As for, “WHAT COMMENTATORS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?” the ones you condemned to hell, the aforementioned, “original, traditional, and majority view among the earliest Jewish and Christians commentators, starting in BC days.”

You once again abuse Jesus’s words and now you’re doing it willfully, already having been corrected multiple times so please repent since I asked you, “so the question is why?” and you merely invent, “ANGELS CANNOT MARRY.” As for, “YOU GAVE OPINION THAT DID NOT MATCH WITH THE SCRIPTURE I GAVE PROVING ANGELS CANNOT MARRY” I’m unsure how quoting, Matthew 22:30 and Mark 12:25 are opinions but, again, you based your views on one single verse.

Joe, “PEOPLE BEFORE THE FLOOD WHO WERE TAKEN TO TARTARUS.”

Peter, “God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into” Tartarus (2 Peter 2:4).

Again, merely asserting that I lied doesn’t mean that I lied: it just means that you’re literally ignorant and prejudice. See, I have proved time and again that you’re mistaken but I can’t merely assert that you lie because well, how could I even know that?

You then, once again, invent a fantasy which upsets you, “YOU BELIEVE THAT YOUR OPINION OVERRIDES SCRIPTURE.. YOU LIE” so, once again, please keep your fantasies to yourself.

You then manipulated Jesus again by asserting, “JESUS…ANSWERED BY SAYING NOBODY (HUMANS ASKING) WILL MARRY IN THE KINGDOM” but, as I already told you and you actually quoted but ignored, “JESUS…ANSWERED BY SAYING,” “those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead.” Ergo, “fallen Angels aren’t worthy so, while the worthy ‘cannot die anymore’ the fallen Angles can since they will be subject to the second death since hell was created for them and the Devil.” So, again, you’re manipulating Jesus’ very specific statement about loyal Angels to apply to all Angles at all times. Thus, you invented that it’s about “(ALL ANGELS EVER)” over against Jesus’ words.

As for, “ITS ALL ABOUT $$$$$$$$ FOR YOU.. AND NOTHING ELSE” you’re a really, really bad mind reader—please repent.

When you reply to the fact that, “you manipulated that whole chapter by ignoring that it’s not only about that” and “Why does Peter place that rebellion chronologically to before Noah’s days—aka, pre-flood?” merely by ranting, “I DID NOT IGNORE JUDE AT ALL.. I ANSWER YOU IN GREAT DETAIL…” you leave things at that, “you manipulated that whole chapter by ignoring that it’s not only about that” and ignored, “Why does Peter place that rebellion chronologically to before Noah’s days—aka, pre-flood?”

Sadly, your anger led you to also miss and thus ignore that, “When it came to, ‘What you’re arguing is like saying that a certain text doesn’t refer to ‘God’ since it refers to the ‘LORD’ or ‘The Most High’ or the ‘Almighty,’ etc., etc., etc.’” and, ironically, I finished that sentence with the same statement I had to repeat just now, “again, you’re so hatefully angry that you ignored the point and moved the goalpost.”

Likewise, I noted, “you again,” mind you, “fail to answer why but you seem to be merely asserting without evidence that there were zero attractive sons of God” and yet again point out a non-issue, “BIBLE SAYS SONS OF GOD.. THAT MEANS THE BIBLE IS TALKING ABOUT MALES…DAUGHTERS OF MEN… THAT MEANS THE BIBLE IS TALKING ABOUT FEMALES” so that you, once again, ignore the point. But, you did assert that there weren’t any beautiful Sethites so there’s that at least—even if you had to invent that to butters your man-made tradition. Again, on the Angel view, I don’t have to invent stuff, I can just point out biblically verifiable facts.

Fascinatingly, when it comes to, “You then merely asserted, ‘There are no ‘fallen Angels’ to deal with anywhere in scripture’” along with my reference to, “one example, in Rev 12…” you, again, myopically fixate on your eisegesis that out of everything that is in 2 Peter, “Angels” must only exclusively refer to, “MEN (KORA)” which is a mere assertion, of course.

Likewise, merely asserted is your assertion, “IT IS ‘SYMBOLIC’” which you think gives you an out via which to ignore biblically verifiable facts that are inconvenient to your tradition. Interestingly, your demand that, “REV 1.1 SAYS IT IS ‘FUTURISTIC’” and ergo, the whole entire rest of the book can only refer to the future is debunked a mere 3 verses later but the usage of the word, “was” which is past tense—which refers to the past and not the future—same with verse 8 and 9, etc.

When it comes to Tartarus, you appear to be desperate to apply hermeneutics which would have you apply cultural and grammatical contexts via which to understand that hapax legomenon. Thus, when we reject your tradition and apply what Peter (and Jude) were telling us, we can understand it better than as per a late-comer of a view based on myth, prejudice, and that only creates more problems than it solves (more than zero).

I thought you were projecting when you complain about my books since, again, you complained that I quoted them but I never did and then I referred you to an, “article” but you moved the goalpost, again, to complain about, “MORE ADVERTISING OF YOUR BS BOOKS.” Please dispel some of your hateful anger before writing since you’re discrediting yourself by missing simple facts. So, I made a biblically backed statement, directed you to an elucidation of it, but you merely bypass it via merely asserting, “WHAT A LIAR NOTHING IN YOUR ABOVE COMMENT IS BIBLICAL.. ITS ALL SCARE RUBBISH” thus, you continue discrediting yourself.

Why would anyone show you a, “7 HEADED DRAGON” when that’s symbolic of kings/kingdoms/nations. Just because some statements in Rev are symbolic doesn’t mean that all of them are: no one should have to tell you that. Or, do you believe that John is symbolic as is Jesus who gave him the revelation—and, of course, the revelation was also symbolic, right? No.

I asked, “in Rev 12: do you reject that the child mentioned there is Jesus?” and noted, “If you accept that it is then well, he was born prior to 96AD so there goes your myopic theory” but since that collapses your tradition you merely asserted, “REV 12. AND NOTHING YOU CLAIM IS IN IT IS WRITTEN ANYWHERE AT ALL” but when you make such incoherent assertions it only takes a little quote to debunk you:

I stated, “the child mentioned there.”

Rev 12 notes, “her child…a male child…her child…the male child.”

Ergo, that debunks, “NOTHING YOU CLAIM IS IN IT IS WRITTEN ANYWHERE AT ALL.”

If you actually assuage your hatefully ungraceful worldly anger long enough to think cogently, you’ll note that I haven’t even used my books to debate you but made biblically verifiable statements and then referenced my books as for additional and more detailed data. And yet, the fact still remains that merely asserting the pseudo-standard, “you CANNOT REFERENCE your own books in this debate” is incoherent.

It’s equally incoherent, a non-sequitur, to make up the imaginary fantasy that since I, allegedly, “DON’T EVEN KNOW THE OLD TESTAMENT” then, I can’t, “HAVE JEWISH BLOODLINES” and my people have suffered enough through the millennia without someone as grotesquely hate filled and unrepentant as you laughing at us because we, like you, don’t have a full genealogy.

You also merely asserted, “YOU DON’T KNOW ANY HEBREW MEANINGS AT ALL” which is tragically embarrassing, prejudice, and instantly debunkable: I mean, you do realize that when you’re so filled with hatred that you make preposterously generic statements, it only takes one single word to debunk you—just as I did with Rev’s reference to, “was.” So, for example, it goes a little something like this: I point out that I literally wrote an entire book about the linguistics, you ignore that verifiable fact and then merely assert, “YOU DON’T KNOW ANY HEBREW MEANINGS AT ALL.” Again (and again and again [and again and again]): you’re so utterly saturated with hateful anger than it’s almost as if you don’t even know what you’re writing. I know who I man in Christ so I can take your hateful anger and urge you do repent but please, please, please, (please [please]) don’t comment to unbelievers online since you will do more harm than good: all harm, no good.

Now, I noted, “I look forward to hearing about what your pastor thinks” but you moved the goalpost, one of your MOs, to, “INDOCTRINATOR.” So, it appears as if you’re not a member of a local body of believers and that explains ***a lot*** such as why you’re so utterly hateful and unaccountable to anyone. Thus, you violate the New Testament wherein pastors are gifted by God Himself. Please join a local body of believers in praise, worship, Bible reading, studying, hearing sermons, fellowshipping, and repent.

Tragically, you’re so utterly ungraceful, worldly, hate filled, and angry that I tell you this in brotherly love, “Shalom and please repent—please!” and you spit in my face again (and again [and again]) so, please repent.

Joe Jackson

I AM USING BOLD CAPITALS TO MAKE IT EASIER TO DISTINGUISH YOU FROM ME IN TEXT SO HOPE YOU DON’T GET ALL OFFENDED CLAIMING IT IS YELLING LIKE SOME FOOLS DO ON HERE. AND BECAUSE ITS BEEN A WHILE SINCE YOU LAST REPLIED AND I HAVE HAD MANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS.. I HAVE TO TRY AND REMEMBER WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU ARE ARGUING AND TRY AND WORK OUT WHOS SAYING WHAT, (HENCE MY CAPTIALS FOR FUTURE REF)

PS.. TRY REMEMBER THIS ISN’T ONE OF YOUR BORING NOVELS SO KEEP THE ANSWERS SMALL SO I CAN. NO NEED TO KEEP REPEATING AS YOU DO.

Timothy, “be ready in season and out of season; correct, rebuke, and exhort” (2 Timothy 4:2).

PAUL WROTE THAT TO YOU PERSONALLY DID HE? NO HE DIDN’T.. PAUL WROTE IT TO TIMOTHY NOT YOU. SO NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO PUT YOURSELF AS IF YOU ARE AN APOSTLE.. YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO ANYONE LET ALONE ME.

You, once again, merely asserted that I lied but you’re just being a worldly ungraceful jerk: you invented the assertion that I lied, I didn’t lie.

NO IDEA NOW WHAT THAT IS ALL ABOUT. IM NOT ANGRY.. I DON’T GET ANGRY.

NEPHILIM ARE CONSIDERED GIANT MEN BY ALL SCHOLARS…. YOU ARE NOT A SCHOLAR SO JUST BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH ALL SCHOLARS DOESN’T MEAN MUCH DOES IT.

I literally wrote the book on the issue of the linguistics so I’m very aware that you aren’t familiar with the relevant data.

YOUR BOOKS MEAN NOTHING, WRITING A BOOK DOES NOT MAKE ANYBODY AN EXPERT.. I CAN WRITE A BOOK ON NEPHILIM TOO AND IT WOULD BE COMPLETE OPPOSITE OF YOURS… SO HOW WOULD THAT MAKE ‘YOU’ AN EXPERT WHEN OTHER BOOKS DISAGREE WITH YOUR ‘OPINION’ AND THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE.. ‘OPINIONS’

I HAVE NO MISCONCEPTION ..JUST BECAUSE YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT NEPHILIM MEANS ISN’T MY MISCONCEPTION.ITS YOUR IGNORANCE.

GIANTS ARE HERE TODAY AS THEY WERE PRE FLOOD..ARE YOU BLIND? TURN ON THE BASKETBALL DUDE. THEY CLEARLY CAME FROM THE ARK 8, WHY WOULD YOU THINK THEY DIDN’T AMAZES ME… ARE YOU THAT IGNORANT OF GENETICS?

CONTRADICT THE BIBLE 5 TIMES? WTH ARE YOU ON ABOUT NOW? GOD DIDN’T MISS ANYTHING MATE.. YOU HAVE… 100%

GOOD GRIEF IT’S LIKE TALKING TO A 4YO, ‘THE FACT THAT ‘’OTHERS KNEW’’’ WHAT GIANTS WERE.. PROVES THERE ‘’’WERE GIANTS’’’ OR ELSE HOW WOULD THEY KNOW WHAT THE SPIES WERE EVEN TALKING ABOUT.. EVEN IF THEY WERE LYING? THIS ISN’T ROCKET SCIENCE LOGIC HERE.

NO IDEA WHAT THAT’S ABOUT.. IM CERTAINLY NOT READING BACK TO FIND OUT

SO YOU ARE ANOTHER THAT IS OFFENDED BY CAPS LOCK THINKING ITS YELLING… WOW… WHY ARE NON BELIEVERS SO OFFENDED AT THE STUPIDEST THINGS.

LOST AGAIN WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.. MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE KEPT DEBATING WHILE I REMEMBERED WHAT YOU ARE ON ABOUT. ARE YOUR BOOKS THIS MEMORABLE WHEN READ?

AND ALL SCHOLARS AGREE NEPHILIM IS GIANTS (FALLEN ONES) BUT TALL PEOPLE NONE THE LESS AS PROVEN BY THE GRASSHOPPER STORY.

YOU POSTED LINKS TO YOUR BOOKS MANY TIMES.. GO LOOK A THIS CHAT LOG.

HELL IS THE GRAVE WE ALL GO THERE BUD. GET OVER IT.

AS FOR HATEFFUL ANGER.. THAT IS YOUR INTERPRETATION BECAUSE YOU ARE OFFENDED BY FACTS.. ALL SJW’S SHOW THIS TRAIT YOU ARE NO EXCEPTION. THE FACT YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT CAPS LOCK BEING ANGER AND YELLING SHOWS YOUR OFFENSE AT THE MOST RIDICULOUS WOKE THINGS. AGAIN.. YOU CANNOT CORRECT ME REGARDING SCRIPTURE BECAUSE YOU SHOW NO SCRIPTURE TO CORRECT ME.. YOUR OPNIONS AGAINST CHRISITIANTYS TRUTH IS NOT CORRECTION.. IT IS JUST NONSENSE.

As for, “ALL CHRISTIANS GO TO HELL BECAUSE IT IS THE GRAVE” well, I wrote an entire book just about that so I kwon you’re simply and demonstrably mistaken. The word that you read as, “hell” in your English Bible is actually usage to render (not even translate) various Hebrew and Greek words and so, “GRAVE” is you being myopic. Please see my book, “What Does the Bible Say About Heaven and Hell?: A Styled Superumology and Infernology.”

THE ABOVE UNDERLINED IS NOT YOU PROMOTING YOUR BOOK YET AGAIN.. ???

LIKE YOU JUST CLAIMED YOU HAVE NOT DONE? THE LIES CONTINUE.

HELL IS THE GRAVE IN GREEK AND HEBREW… GREEK HADIES IS ‘GRAVE’ ….. HEBREW SHEOL IS ‘GRAVE’.. THEY BOTH MEAN THE EXACT SAME THING… COVERING PLACE,PIT,GRAVE.

YOUR COMPLETE LACK OF BIBLICAL KNOWLEDGE WAS NOTED EARLY ON IN THE CHAT. REINFORCED CONTINUALLY. Why would ANYONE read your beliefs on what you don’t even understand. WE WILL GO TO THE BIBLE FOR THE CORRECT MEANING OF WORDS AND CONTEXT THANKS…

PS.. I KNOW YOU ARE DESPERATE FOR SALES OF YOUR SILLY BOOKS BUT I WILL NOT BE BUYING.. PLEASE STOP TRYING TO MAKE ME BY YOUR JUNK

SO YOU STILL CANT STATE? I SEE

INVENT??? THIS IS SCRIPTURE.. HAVE A GOOD READ NOW

Matthew 22:29-30: “29 Jesus replied, ‘Your mistake is that you don’t know the Scriptures, and you don’t know the power of God. 30 For when the dead rise, THEY WILL NEITHER MARRY nor be given in marriage. IN THIS RESPECT they will be like the angels in heaven.’”

Joe, “PEOPLE BEFORE THE FLOOD WHO WERE TAKEN TO TARTARUS.”

Peter, “God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into” Tartarus (2 Peter 2:4).

ONCE AGAIN…. 2 Peter 2:4 REFERS TO THE STORY OF KORAH, A REBELLION AGAINST MOSES’ LEADERSHIP, AS RECORDED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT IN NUMBERS 16.

TARTARUS IS ONLY MENTIONED THIS ONE TIME

SEEMS EVERYTHING YOU SAY I HAVE SCRIPTURES TO PROVE YOU WRONG.. WHILE YOU ONLY EVER USE YOUR OPINION… SEEMS YOU ARE LYING TO ME… AND ANYONE READING THAT IS HONEST.

Ergo, “fallen Angels aren’t worthy so, while the worthy ‘cannot die anymore’ the fallen Angles can since they will be subject to the second death since hell was created for them and the Devil.”

THERE IS NO FALLEN ANGELS IN THE BIBLE.. I HAVE PROVEN THAT MANY TIMES.

So, again, you’re manipulating Jesus’ very specific statement about loyal Angels to apply to all Angles at all times. Thus, you invented that it’s about “(ALL ANGELS EVER)” over against Jesus’ words.

ALL ANGELS ARE LOYAL, THERE IS NOTHING IN BIBLE SAYING OTHERWISE..SUGGESTING IT IS CLAIMING GOD IS A FAILURE

As for, “ITS ALL ABOUT $$$$$$$$ FOR YOU.. AND NOTHING ELSE” you’re a really, really bad mind reader—please repent.

YOU KEEP PLUGGING YOUR BOOK AND WANTING ME TO BUY IT… YOU ARE ALL ABOUT THE DOLLAR

When you reply to the fact that, “you manipulated that whole chapter BLABLABLA

NO IDEA WHAT THAT RANT IS .. FORGOT.. YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME ..ITS HARD TO WORK OUT THEY WAY YOU POST THINGS

AGAIN NO IDEA ..ITS BEEN TOO LONG.. REMIND ME… YHVH IS THE ALMIGHTY IF THAT HELPS

I NEVER MENTIONED SETH AT ALL DID I? IF SO SHOW ME WHERE?

AND THE RELEVANCE TO YOUR SO CALLED ‘POIN’T………….. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT DAUGHERS ARE ‘FEMALE’ AND SONS ARE ‘MALE’???? WHAT DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS SIMPLICITY..? ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE TRANS BELIEVERS?

THE STORY IS SIMPLE… BELIEVING MEN MARRIED UNBELIEVING WOMEN, THERE IS NO MENTION OF ANGELS OR ALIENS ANYWHERE.. YOU ARE THE ONE INVENTING NONSENSE TO FIT YOUR NARATIVE.

I DIDN’T MERELY ASSERT THERE ARE NO FALLEN ANGELS, I STATED THAT WELL KNOWN BIBLE FACT.

I NEVER SAID ALL ANGELS ARE MEN.. ANGELS MEANS MESSENGERS.. THEY ARE MEN AND CELESTIAL ANGELS TOO SOMETIMES. YOUR LIES KEEP GOING DON’T THEY. REV 12 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANGELS PERIOD.

YOU JUST QUOTE YOUR OPINION AS IF IT IS TO BE BELIEVED WITHOUT EVIDENCE OF SCRIPTURE

AGAIN, ITS SCRIPTURE I CAN’T BE CREDITED FOR THAT FACT. REV 1.1 ‘SIGNED’ MEANS SYMBOLISED LIKEWISE ‘THINGS TO ‘’SHORTLY’’ COME TO PASS’’ IS OBVIOUSLY FUTURE FROM THE TIME OF ITS WRITING.

AND THIS IS TOO FUNNY THAT YOU QUOTE ‘GOD’ BEING BEFORE 96AD.. HILLARIOUS

Grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, (OF COURSE GOD WAS BEFORE THE 1ST CENTURY..THAT DOESN’T MEAN THE EVENTS OF REVELATION ARE BEFORE THEN.. ARE YOU INSANE OR TRULY UNEDUCATED.

SO THE PREVIOUS VERSE SAYING ‘’PROPHECY’ MUST MEAN BY YOUR LOGIC THAT THEY PROPHECIED THINGS THEY ALREADY KNEW ABOUT FROM THE PAST pmsl..

3Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this PROPHECY

AS FOR V8 AND 9… YOU ARE SO DECEITFUL.. YOU KNOW VERY WELL THAT THIS IS AN INTRODUCTION BEFORE THE ACTUAL ‘’REVELATION’’ IS TOLD.. AND THAT V 8 IS AGAIN TALKING ABOUT GOD AND V 9 IS JUST JOHN TELLING WHERE HE WAS WHEN THE REVELATION WAS GIVEN TO HIM.. YOU KNOW VERY WELL THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REVELATION THAT HASN’T BEEN GIVEN YET… AND V1 SLAMS IT HOME BUT YOUR BLATANT AND ‘VERY DELIBERATE’ DISHONESTY IS VERY CLEAR FOR ALL TO SEE.

TARTARUS IS THE GRAVE (HELL) IT’S WHERE KORAH WENT WHO IS THE SUBJECT OF 2PETER2.

AS FOR YOUR REVELATION NONSENSE Revelation 12 can be seen as a symbolic representation of the conflict between the early Christian community (often symbolized as the woman) and the powers of the Roman Empire (often symbolized as the dragon). This perspective emphasizes the historical and political context of the early church rather than a literal depiction of a cosmic battle involving fallen angels

ANYBODY READING THIS CHAT CAN SEE YOU HAVE PUSHED YOUR BOOKS AND TRIED GETTING ME TO BUY AND READ THEM FROM THE START..YOU HAVE AGAIN IN THIS VERY POST… YOU ARE A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR THAT IS FOR SURE. WHICH YOU WILL WHINE IS MY ANGER TALKING.. BECAUSE YOU GET OFFENDED BY FACTS AND CLAIM ANYTHING YOU HATE HEARING IS ANGER.

Why would anyone show you a, “7 HEADED DRAGON” when that’s symbolic of kings/kingdoms/nations.

WHERE DID YOU GET THAT INTERPRETATION? SO YOU CHERRYPICK WHEN ITS SYMBOLIC AND WHEN ITS NOT.. THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS ALL LITERAL

I asked, “in Rev 12: do you reject that the child mentioned there is Jesus?” and noted, “If you accept that it is then well, he was born prior to 96AD so there goes your myopic theory”

WHAT RIDICULOUS NONSENSE LOL.. THE PRELUDE BEFORE THE REVELATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REVELATION.. AND JESUS BEING RESURECTED AND ALIVE STILL EVEN NOW… IS STILL IN THE FUTURE FROM 96 AD… YOU ARE SO BLATANTLY UNEDUCATED IN THIS TOPIC

Rev 12 notes, “her child…a male child…her child…the male child.”

SO WHAT?

Ergo, that debunks, “NOTHING YOU CLAIM IS IN IT IS WRITTEN ANYWHERE AT ALL.”

WHAT HAVE YOU CLAIMED ? FALLEN ANGELS.. BUT NONE TO BE SEEN.. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING YOU ARE ON ABOUT.

YOUR BOOKS YOU KEEP PUMPING LIKE A LATE NIGHT AD FOR BLUNT KNIVES (AND ORDER NOW AND YOU WILL GET A FREE POTATO PEELER) HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH FACTS AND SCRIPTURE.. THEY ARE IRRELEVANT TO THIS DEBATE BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST YOUR OPINION.. YOU ARE SPINNING ENOUGH OF THAT WITHOUT BRINGING YOUR BOOKS THAT WILL JUST DO MORE OF THE SAME NONSENSE…SO ENOUGH WITH PROMOTING YOUR STUPID BOOKS.. YOU SOUND LIKE PRINCE HARRY, PATHETIC AND CRINGY

YOU ARE THE CHAMPION OF NON-SEQUITUR.. THAT’S ALL YOU DO.

WHAT IS YOUR JEW RANT ABOUT NOW? YOU GO OFF LIKE A PORK CHOP AT EVERYTHING YOU ARE SO TRIGGERED BY EVERYTHING. TOO MUCH EMOTION NOT ENOUGH BRAIN CELLS. STICK TO THE TOPIC AND STOP CRYING ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS ALL THE TIME… I DON’T GIVE TWO HOOTS ABOUT YOUR BLOODLINE WHAT MADE YOU THINK I WAS INTERESTED?

I DEBUNKED YOU ON THAT.. IN 2 SECONDS FLAT BTW… AND THERE YOU GO AGAIN WITH YOUR CRIES OF ‘HATE HATE HATE’ WHENEVER SOMEONE CALLS YOU OUT ON YOUR UTTER NONSENSE AND HERESY. YOU CAN KEEP CHANTING ‘HATE’ LIKE A BABY ALL DAY LONG WHEN I CALL YOU OUT IF YOU LIKE.. CORRECTING YOUR BS IS NOT HATE.. ITS JUST CORRECTING YOUR BS..THATS ALL.. BUT IF YOU FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOURSELF CALLING SOMEONE ELSE HATEFUL JUST BECAUSE THEY DISAGREE WITH YOUR UTTER MADNESS AND RIDICULOUS OPINIONS THAT DON’T MATCH ANY SCRIPTURE WHATSOEVER… KNOCK YOURSELF OUT DUDE.. CRY A RIVER IF IT MAKES YOU NOT BURN DOWN A CHURCH OR WHATEVER YOUR MOB ARE DOING THESE DAYS THAT PROTEST SO MUCH.

So, for example, it goes a little something like this: I point out that I LITERALLY WROTE AN ENTIRE BOOK ABOUT THE LINGUISTICS,

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ (NAAA YOUR NOT PROMOTING YOUR BOOK EVERY 2 MINS AT ALL. ARE YA.. NAAAAAA…) YOU ARE HILLARIOUS

you’re so utterly saturated with hateful anger

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ MORE CRYING . BOOHOO.. JUST HAVE ONE GOOD HOWL AND WIPE YOUR TEARS WITH THE PAGES OF YOUR BOOK AND MAKE THEM USEFULL.. THEN WHEN YOU ARE SETTLED DOWN.. HAVE ANOTHER WHINE…

so I can take your hateful anger

TAKE 256

and urge you do repent but please, please, please, (please [please]) don’t comment to unbelievers online since you will do more harm than good: all harm, no good.

YOU ARE AN SOLID UNBELIEVER AND YOUR OK WITH ME COMMENTING TO YOU THOUGH

I DIDN’T MOVE ANY GOALPOSTS AT ALL THAT’S YOUR OPINION AGAIN..AND WRONG AGAIN.

I AM A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST.

SORT OF GOES AGAINST YOUR FALSE ASSUMPTION.. YET AGAIN.

such as why you’re so utterly hateful and unaccountable to anyone.

AHHH THE OLD HATE WORD AGAIN… TAKE 249 YAWNNNN

WHEN YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT RESORT TO REPETITIVE WHINES TO DODGE AND WEAVE.

Thus, you violate the New Testament wherein pastors are gifted by God Himself.

WHERE DOES IT SAY THIS IN THE BIBLE?

AND EVIDENCE I AM VIOLATING WHATEVER YOU CLAIM I AM

Tragically, you’re so utterly ungraceful, worldly, hate filled, and angry

MORE DEFLECTION AND DODGING… TISSUE?

that I tell you this in brotherly love, “Shalom and please repent—please!” and you spit in my face again (and again [and again]) so, please repent.

IM NOT JEWISH..SO WHY THE SHALOM? AND YOU ARE NOT MY BROTHER IN ANY FORM YOU ARE ANTICHRIST IN REGARDS OF RELIGION..

NOW I KNOW THAT FACT WILL BE RECEIVED WITH YET ANOTHER CRY OF ‘HATE/ANGER’ WAHH WAHH WAHHH…. BUT SO BE IT.. IM NOT GOING TO STOP ANSWERING FACTS JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN’T DEAL IN FACTS, TRUTH, REALITY, AND LOGIC.

BUY A BIBLE, STUDY IT.. AND LEARN ABOUT CHRISTIANITY ,, GET BACK WHEN YOU HAVE A CLUE ON AT LEAST ONE BIT OF THE BIBLE.. SURELY YOU CAN AFFORD A BIBLE WITH ALL THE BOOKS YOU HAVE BEGGED PEOPLE TO BUY CONSTANTLY .. YOU KNOW YOU COULD ALWAYS JUST GET BIBLE HUB OR SIMILAR FOR ‘’’’’FREE’’’’ I GUESS WHEN YOUR BOOKS DON’T SELL BECAUSE THEY ARE FULL OF NONSENSE.. A FREE BIBLE WOULD BE PERFECT FOR YOU…. START AT ‘Google’ AND GO FROM THERE….. THAT A BOY

Ken Ammi

You may want to opt for actually writing cogent sentences rather than parsing and making your comments increasingly more verbose.

Wow, if you’re not angry then I would hate to see you angry. I wish you were angry cause if this is you on normal then well, I’ll leave it at that.

We’re back to that the more you write the more it’s clear that you may possibly have some reading comprehension issues since I’ve explained a few times about the “50% WHATEVER” and you still, have, “NO IDEA NOW WHAT THAT IS ALL ABOUT” which, actually also, again, shows your lack of familiarity with biblical Nephilology.

It doesn’t matter that you can type out the English words, “NEPHILIM ARE CONSIDERED GIANT MEN BY ALL SCHOLARS” since that still begs the question of what that means, why they assert that, etc. and, BTW, see my book, “The Scholarly Academic Nephilim and Giants: What do Scholarly Academics Say About Nephilim Giants?”

Again, please stop making up stuff and then arguing with yourself on my time, you’re still ranting about, “A BOOK DOES NOT MAKE ANYBODY AN EXPERT” so please keep that fantasy to yourself since I never even hinted at any such thing.

It’s tragic that you don’t know what “Nephilim” means, even though I have made you aware of the facts, but you engage in projection, “YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT NEPHILIM MEANS.” You don’t want to give upon your man-made tradition regardless of that I’ve alerted you to literally millennia’s worth of relevant data.

When you say, “GIANTS ARE HERE TODAY AS THEY WERE PRE FLOOD” you prove that you simply do not understand the issues—even though I’ve elucidated them to you. But fine, let’s play your game: “GIANTS,” as per your misusage of that term, “ARE HERE TODAY AS THEY WERE PRE FLOOD” which as per your misusage means that subjectively tall people giants are here today as they were pre flood which is something that no one in history has denied so, again, stop making up stuff and then arguing about with yourself.

Likewise, subjectively unusually tall people, “CAME FROM THE ARK 8” is another non-issue.

Indeed, “GOD DIDN’T MISS ANYTHING” but, “YOU HAVE” since you have Nephilim surviving the flood which, “CONTRADICT[s] THE BIBLE 5 TIMES.”

Let’s try it this way: please insert a Hebrew word into, “‘’OTHERS KNEW’’’ WHAT GIANTS WERE” like this, “‘’OTHERS KNEW’’’ WHAT _______ WERE” and if you insert, “Nephilim” then that will prove even more that you don’t know the linguistics involved, ignore resources that could help you actually understand the linguistics—and purposeful ignorance is no longer mere ignorance.

Plus, you’re still relying on unreliable guys whom God rebuked: I rely on the God who rebuked them.

And it’s no wonder you prefer to ignore millennia’s worth of relevant data since you flat out admitted, “NO IDEA WHAT THAT’S ABOUT.. IM CERTAINLY NOT READING BACK TO FIND OUT”—purposeful ignorance is no longer mere ignorance.

You still don’t even understand that when you purposefully refuse to stop using vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English words even when you’re told that doing so makes it hard to understand then it’s hard to understand you and then you complain that you’re not being understood. I get a feeling that you rely on the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” since actually dealing with linguistic facts would prove your man-made tradition is false.

When you merely assert, “AS PROVEN BY THE GRASSHOPPER STORY” you neglected to note what I just noted which is that you really mean: as proven by exclusively appealing to an “evil report” by relying on unreliable guys whom God rebuked.

Again, you appear to have reading comprehension issues and difficulty discerning the difference between words and selecting correct words. I noted, “I noted, “I never once quoted any of my books’ and rather than accepting that demonstrable fact, you spew even more hateful anger, ‘YOU HAVE BEEN PROMOTING’ but what you call, ‘PROMOTING’ isn’t quoting. So, maybe your hateful anger about not comprehending English was just another case of you projecting.”

Now, rather than having some integrity and consulting a dictionary and replying with, “Oops, sorry, you’re right: I accused you falsely since you never quoted your book” you discredit yourself even more by, “YOU POSTED LINKS TO YOUR BOOKS MANY TIMES.” So, let me just re-explain is: a quote differs from a promotion and a quote differs from links.

You also refuse correction on the linguistic facts about, “HELL IS THE GRAVE” so you just keep making false assertions about that.

Nope, I don’t merely interpret, “HATEFFUL ANGER” but base that conclusion on that you’re an ungracefully worldly jerk.

Oh, you want a list of the, “earliest Jewish and Christians commentators, starting in BC days”? Let me know if you are serious since I don’t want to provide you facts just to have you utterly ignore them: as is your modus operandi.

You also refuse correction on the facts of Jesus’ teaching about the issue of the lack of marriage of Angels in heaven.

You also merely obsessively fixate on, “THE STORY OF KORAH” but I already proved to you that your only obsessively fixating and being myopic—plus misreading, misinterpreting, misunderstanding, and misapplying.

At least you backed away from calling me a liar time and time again, without evidence, to that, “SEEMS YOU ARE LYING TO ME” so it’s very simple: I’m not.

“THERE” are “FALLEN ANGELS IN THE BIBLE.. I HAVE PROVEN THAT MANY TIMES.”

You’re still a really, really bad mind reader—please repent. Just because you’re a malicious pessimist doesn’t mean that you are a good mind reader, it only meant that you’re a malicious pessimist.

It’s fascinating that now you’re conveniently ignoring issues that are devastating to your man-made tradition by claiming your memory failed you and you’re too lazy to simply read.

You’re playing off of the mythical and prejudice Sethite theory but fine, forget it: you are still literally incapable of elucidating why it was only strictly males on one side of the equation and only exclusively females on the other but I can and I did.

So, it’s not about your simplistic manipulation that, “DAUGHERS ARE ‘FEMALE’ AND SONS ARE ‘MALE’” but about that all, “DAUGHERS” of men, “ARE ‘FEMALE’ AND SONS” of God, “ARE ‘MALE’”: see how you have to keep on manipulating God’s word just to attempt to defend your man-made tradition?

Oh, I see that you’re back to maliciously ignorantly prejudicially merely asserting that I’m lying again: well, your MO is to be maliciously ignorantly prejudiced so it’s no surprise, it’s just dissipating and please repent.

It’s also fascinating that Rev 12 is so utterly devastating to your tradition that you conveniently merely assert, “REV 12 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANGELS PERIOD” and, “YOU JUST QUOTE YOUR OPINION AS IF IT IS TO BE BELIEVED WITHOUT EVIDENCE OF SCRIPTURE” well, Rev 12 notes, “Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back…the great dragon was thrown down…and his angels were thrown down with him.”

It’s fascinating that I can keep pointing you to facts in Rev 1 but you conveniently ignore God’s word just to protect a man-made tradition.

So now both “HELL” and “TARTARUS” are both “THE GRAVE”? Again, your just unfamiliar with the relevant data and someone who wrote an entire book just about that is well aware of that.

You then merely assert that I’m a “PATHOLOGICAL LIAR” which is disgusting but is well within your hatefully angry nature and yet, that repulsive accusation is actually based on your basic lack of ability to understand a what a reference to a source is.

Then I make a valid point about a, “7 HEADED DRAGON” but you’re so enrages that you have to find something to fight about so when you say, “THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS ALL LITERAL” you thought wrong: again, you invent stuff and then argue with your inventions so, please keep me out of your schizophrenic arguments.

So, in order to run away, very quickly, from the proven fact that Rev 12 refers to past events, you refer to that, “THE PRELUDE BEFORE THE REVELATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REVELATION” which is a non-issue so you’re making up stuff again, and then you admit that it was about, “JESUS BEING” born, “RESURECTED” and ascended are, “STILL IN THE FUTURE FROM 96 AD” so you don’t know basic chronology so, FYI, Jesus was not born, resurrected, and ascended after 96AD but rather, before.

Are you just a hate filled angry anti-Semite? You appear to not even be able to imagine how disgustingly repulsive you are when you wrote, “JEW RANT…GO OFF LIKE A PORK CHOP” I would say that you should be deeply, deeply ashamed of yourself but in order to have shame you have to have integrity and you clearly have zero of that. In order to pretend that your defending God’s word—when you’re really just manipulating and ignoring God’s word in order to defend a man-mad tradition—you have literally lost any witness you may have had and have discredited yourself.

I noted, “it only takes one single word to debunk you—just as I did with Rev’s reference to, ‘was’” and did more of it as per Rev 12 and you’re so incapable of replying cogently that you go off on yet another hatefully angry malicious and ignorant rant.

Since you are whatever is meant by, “A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST” then, again, “I look forward to hearing about what your pastor thinks” and don’t move the goalpost this time. Now, just like you are very, very forceful about your assertions but didn’t know about the “evil report” you ask, “WHERE DOES IT SAY THIS IN THE BIBLE?” about, “the New Testament wherein pastors are gifted by God Himself” so here it is, “And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers” (Eph 4:11).

Tragically, you’re so utterly ungraceful, worldly, hate filled, and angry that I pray peace upon you and you double down on spitting in my face: again, you should repent but you appear to be too addicted to hateful anger.

Again, please don’t ever, ever make comments to an unbeliever—online or in real life.

Joe Jackson

Wow, if you’re not angry

BOO HOO seriously you whine like a baby.

NO IDEA WHAT YOUR 50% IS.. SOUNDS LIKE MORE VEERING

BTW, see my book, “The Scholarly Academic Nephilim and Giants: What do Scholarly Academics Say About Nephilim Giants?”

MORE PUSHING YOUR OWN BOOK WHILE CLAIMING YOU NEVER DO RIGHT… GOT IT

Again, please stop making up stuff and then arguing with yourself on my time, you’re still ranting about, “A BOOK DOES NOT MAKE ANYBODY AN EXPERT”

IT DOESN’T AS MUCH AS YOU THINK IT DOES

It’s tragic that you don’t know what “Nephilim” means,

IT MEANS WHAT ALL SCHOLARS CLAIM IT IS..AND WHAT SCRIPTURE SAYS IT IS …. GIANTS

tall people giants are here today as they were pre flood which is something that no one in history has denied

THERE YOU GO.. NOW YOU’RE GETTING IT..

Likewise, subjectively unusually tall people, “CAME FROM THE ARK 8”

THERE YOU GO NOW YOU’RE GETTING IT

Indeed, “GOD DIDN’T MISS ANYTHING” but, “YOU HAVE” since you have Nephilim surviving the flood which, “CONTRADICT[s] THE BIBLE 5 TIMES.”

NEPHILIM DID SURVIVE THE FLOOD YOU JUST AGREED WITH THAT. YOU ARE SO CONFUSED

Let’s try it this way: please insert a Hebrew word into, “‘’OTHERS KNEW’’’ WHAT GIANTS WERE” like this, “‘’OTHERS KNEW’’’ WHAT _NEPHILIM______ WERE”

SO EASY.. GOT ANY HARD ONES?

Plus, you’re still relying on unreliable guys whom God rebuked: I rely on the God who rebuked them.

NO.. THE GUYS THEY TOLD CLEARLY KNEW WHAT GIANTS WERE. SO DON’T EVEN HAVE TO RELY ON THE SPIES.. IT DOESN’T EVEN MATTER IF THEY LIED…. THE GUYS THEY TOLD KNEW WHAT GIANTS WERE………………… YOU ARE A BIT SLOW ON THE UPTAKE AREN’T YOU.

“NO IDEA WHAT THAT’S ABOUT.. IM CERTAINLY NOT READING BACK TO FIND OUT

MAYBE IF YOU CONCENTRATED AND STOPPED THE REPETITIVE BOOK PEDDLING YOU MIGHT KEEP UP WITH THE TOPIC AND UNDERSTAND.. THEN YOU COULD MAKE SOME SENSE..ITS LIKE SPOON FEEDING A MONKEY

it’s hard to understand you .

I CAN’T DUMB IT DOWN ANYMORE FOR YOU.. I’M NOT THAT GOOD.

I get a feeling that you rely on the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” since actually dealing with linguistic facts would prove your man-made tradition is false.

YOU KEEP REPEATING ‘MAN MADE TRADITION’ LIKE I GOT THIS FROM SOMEBODY IN PARTICULAR.. DO TELL WHO INSTEAD OF SKIRTING AROUND THE ASUMPTION… AND JUST BECAUSE YOU AREN’T SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND SIMPLE ENGLISH.. DON’T GET ALL UPSET AT ME… EDUCATE YOURSELF INSTEAD

YOU KEEP BEING DISENGENOUS OF COURSE BY REPEATING AGAIN.. THE SAME OLD LINES. ESPECIALLY REGARDING THE SPIES NOT BEING TRUSTED.. YET CAN’T COMPREHEND THAT THE HEARERS ‘KNEW’ WHAT GIANTS WERE. THIS IS BLATANT VEERING WHEN BEATEN.. AGAIN AND AGAIN. VERY EMBARRASSING FOR YOU

“I noted, “I never once quoted any of my books’ and rather than accepting that demonstrable fact, you spew even more hateful anger,

MORE REPEATS.. GROUNDHOG DAY STUFF AGAIN. MORE CLAIMING YOU DON’T PUSH YOUR BOOKS WHILE CONTINUING TO.. (YOU DID AT THE START OF THIS POST AS YOU HAVE EVERY OTHER POST) YET KEEP DENYING IT.. ARE YOU OFF YOUR MEDS AGAIN? THEN YOU FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE USUAL CRIES OF ‘HATEFUL ANGER’ BLA BLA BLA… ZNOREZZZZZZZ

“YOU POSTED LINKS TO YOUR BOOKS MANY TIMES.” So, let me just re-explain is: a quote differs from a promotion and a quote differs from links.

YOU DO ‘PROMOTE’ YOUR SILLY BOOKS EVERY POST MANY TIMES.. THAT IS FACTS ALL CAN SEE WHEN READING THESE CRAZY RESPONSES YOU GIVE.

QUOTING LINKS TO YOUR BOOK ‘IS’ PROMOTING TOO BTW.. GOOD TRY THOUGH

You also refuse correction on the linguistic facts about, “HELL IS THE GRAVE” so you just keep making false assertions about that.

HELL IS THE GRAVE… SO YOU CANNOT CORRECT ME OR ANYONE ON THAT.. YOU ARE JUST FLAT OUT WRONG YET AGAIN

HELL IS SHEOL,HADES,GRAVE (COVERING PLACE, PIT, GRAVE) AS PROVEN BY SCRIPTURE AND MY SHOWING SCRIPTURE .. UNLIKE YOU YELLING YOUR OPINON AS IF IT TRUMPS SCRIPTURE.

Nope, I don’t merely interpret, “HATEFFUL ANGER” but base that conclusion on that you’re an ungracefully worldly jerk.

SO YOU KEEP CLAIMING AD-NAUSEUM… ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ VEERS THAT’S ALL YOU ARE DOING.

I don’t want to provide you facts

NO [****] SHERLOCK…

You also refuse correction on the facts of Jesus’ teaching about the issue of the lack of marriage of Angels in heaven.

I SHOWED YOU SCRIPTURE OVER YOUR OPINION (AGAIN) THAT SHOWED ANGELS CANNOT MARRY.. ITS CLEAR AND OBVIOUS.. BUT NOT TO THE HEATHEN LIKE YOU

You also merely obsessively fixate on, “THE STORY OF KORAH” but I already proved

NOTHING.. YOU PROVE NOTHING… YOU DON’T EVEN UNDERSTAND PARABLE

At least you backed away from calling me a liar time and time again, without evidence, to that, “SEEMS YOU ARE LYING TO ME” so it’s very simple: I’m not.

YOU ARE LYING.. I’VE NEVER THOUGHT OTHERWISE ..YOU TYPE AND PRESTO THERE IS LIES

“there” are “fallen angels in the bible.. i have proven that many times.”

YOU HAVEN’T PROVEN ANYTHING PERIOD, BESIDES HOW BUTTHURT YOU ARE WHEN YOU GET OWNED WITH SCRIPTURAL FACTS.

You’re still a really, really bad mind

BOO HOO AGAIN

It’s fascinating that now you’re conveniently ignoring issues that are devastating to your man-made tradition by claiming your memory failed you and you’re too lazy to simply read.

I’M NOT THE ONE IGNORING AS THE CHAT SHOWS… YOU ARE BAD AT THIS AREN’T YOU

why it was only strictly males on one side of the equation and only exclusively females on the other but I can and I did.

YOU STILL DON’T GET IT BUT THAT’S HARDLY SUPRISING

SONS ARE MALE.. DAUGHTERS ARE FEMALE.. NEWSFLASH: THERE ARE ONLY ‘2’ GENDERS.

“DAUGHERS ARE ‘FEMALE’ AND SONS ARE ‘MALE’” but about that all, “DAUGHERS” of men, “ARE ‘FEMALE’ AND SONS” of God, “ARE ‘MALE’”: see how you have to keep on manipulating God’s word just to attempt to defend your man-made tradition?

DID YOU EVER GO TO SCHOOL PERIOD? I HAVE QUOTED SCRIPTURE.. YOU ARE ADDING ‘YOUR OPINION’ TO THE SCRIPTURE… ITS CLEAR, THERE IS NO CONTROVERSY… THERE ARE NO SUPERNATURAL BEINGS PRESENT IN THE STORY.. YOUR ‘’MAN MADE’’ DOCTRINE YOU FELL FOR AND ADHERE TO TELLS YOU THAT.. NOT SCRIPTURE

I’m lying again:

CORRECT… AT LAST

Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back…the great dragon was thrown down…and his angels were thrown down with him.”

SO AN ANGEL AND A DRAGON WERE HAVING A FIGHT HEY? AND THAT DOESN’T SOUND INSANE AT ALL DOES IT.

I SHOWED YOU REV 1:1.. EXPLAINED IT SO A SIMPLETON LIKE YOURSELF COULD UNDERSTAND IT YET YOU STILL TRY AND CLAIM THIS DRAGON IS A LITERAL BEING.. DO YOU HAVE SOME FOSSILS OR A LIVE CAGED ONE TO SHOW AS EVIDENCE.. PERHAPS YOU HAVE TAKEN ONE TO SCHOOL FOR SHOW AND TELL

It’s fascinating that I can keep pointing you to facts in Rev 1 but you conveniently ignore God’s word just to protect a man-made tradition.

DID YOU SAY MAN MADE TRADITION FOR THE 1000TH TIME.. ARE YOU GETTING PAID EACH MENTION? SEEMS ITS CLEAR THAT IT IS ‘YOU’ WHO HOLDS TO MAN MADE TRADITIONS.. THAT IS ALL YOU ARE SHOWING.

So now both “HELL” and “TARTARUS” are both “THE GRAVE”? Again, your just unfamiliar with the relevant data and someone who wrote an entire book just about that is well aware of that.

BOOK PROMOTION NUMBER 3056

YES HELL AND TARTARUS ARE THE GRAVE.. AS SCRIPTURE SAYS CLEARLY. AS I HAVE SHOWN YOU… AGAINST YOUR ‘OPINION’ ONCE MORE

You then merely assert that I’m a “PATHOLOGICAL LIAR”

YES BECAUSE ITS 100% TRUE.. UNDENIABLE

which is disgusting but is well within your hatefully angry nature

AHUH.. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

SO MICHAEL IS PUNCHING ON WITH A ONE HEADED LITERAL DRAGON BUT YOU DRAW THE LINE AT A 7 HEADED DRAGON… OKAYYYYYY ‘NURSEEEEE’’

So, in order to run away, very quickly, from the proven fact that Rev 12 refers to past events,

I TAUGHT YOU HOW TIME WORKS… REV 1. THINGS TO ‘SHORTLY COME’ MEANS ‘FUTURE’ (FROM THE DATE IT WAS WRITTEN) NOT PAST… PLS TRY HARDER

, Jesus was not born, resurrected, and ascended after 96AD but rather, before.

EXACTLY.. WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ‘THINGS TO SHORTLY COME TO PASS’…. OR SYMBOLOGY… CHRIST LITERALLY WAS BORN, LITERALLY ROSE AND LITERALLY ASCENDED

Are you just a hate filled angry anti-Semite?

REPEAT HATE/ANGER LINE NUMBER 300634

ANTI-SEMITE ? SO YOU RUN OUT OF INSULTS SO NOW TRY THE ANTI SEMITE STUFF… A NEW LOW FOR EVEN YOU

WHERE HAVE I EVEN IMPLIED I’M ANTI SEMITE… NOT THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS OBVIOUSLY

You appear to not even be able to imagine how disgustingly repulsive you are when you wrote, “JEW RANT…GO OFF LIKE A PORK CHOP” I would say that you should be deeply, deeply ashamed

WELL SEEMS INFACT ‘’YOU’’ ARE THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR EVEN CONNECTING WHAT I HAD NO INTENTION OF CONNECTING UNTIL READING IT BACK.. RE PORK CHOP..

MY MIND DIDN’T GO TO JEWS AND PORK , BUT CLEARLY YOURS DID….

MY WORDING OF PORK CHOP IS A WELL KNOWN SAYING WHERE I LIVE… ‘GOING OFF LIKE A PORK CHOP’’ IS WHEN SOMEBODY HAS A BIG RANT LIKE YOU DO… GOING OFF AS IN (ROTTEN MEAT GOING OFF) LIKE ‘HES GONE OFF LIKE A PRAWN IN THE SUN’ GONE OFF LIKE A PORK CHOP… SAME THING…..

BUT GOOD TRY AND THANKS FOR SHOWING HOW ANTI SEMETIC ‘’YOU ARE’’

man-mad tradition—

MAN MADE TRADITION LINE NUMBER 50069

cogently that you go off on yet another hatefully angry malicious and ignorant rant.

USE OF WORD COGENTLY # 5069 AND HATEFUL/ANGRY # 40489

Since you are whatever is meant by, “A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST”

YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT A CHURCH IS NOW? OR WHO CHRIST IS? OR WHAT A MEMBER IS? OK NO SURPRISE AGAIN.

you ask, “WHERE DOES IT SAY THIS IN THE BIBLE?” about, “the New Testament wherein pastors are gifted by God Himself” so here it is, “And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers” (Eph 4:11).

YOU DO REALISE PASTORS ARE NOT A JEWISH THING RIGHT? AND ITS MOST PROBABLE THAT MOST OF THE EARLY CHRSITIAN CHURCH LEADERS LIKE AT EPHESIS WERE JEWISH CHRISTIANS. STILL YOUR RANT ABOUT PASTORS IS PECULIAR TO THE TOPIC.

YEAH WE GOT THAT 5039 REPEATS BACK…. MR BROKEN RECORD OF INSIGNIFICANCE.

YOU KNOW YOU TALK SO MUCH WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING AT ALL WORTHY.

REPEATING THE SAME THING OVER DOESN’T BEGIN TO MAKE IT CORRECT.. INFACT THE MORE YOU REPEAT YOURSELF THE SILLIER YOU LOOK. TRY AND POST SOBER, SEE IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE…

NOW….. HAVE YOU GOT SOMETHING THAT ISN’T

REPETITIVE
SELF PROMOTING BOOKWISE
WHINING AND SOOKING LIKE A LITTLE GIRL
DID I MENTION REPETITIVE
OPINION ONLY
FULL OF LIES

ANYTHING? SERIOUSLY DO TRY HARDER.. YOU JUST AREN’T GIVING ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT .. YOUR OPINION MEANS NOTHING WHEN I QUOTE BIBLE DISPROVING YOUR OPINION… DO TRY AND HAVE A CLUE BEFORE YOU POST AGAIN.

Ken Ammi

Friend, you’re a picture perfect example of a man-made religion of your own made in your own image.

You made false assertions and were called on them.

You instantly became repulsively ungracefully worldly and hatefully angry.

You were caught manipulating God’s word time and again.

You utterly refused correction about that.

You are not accountable to anyone since you reject God’s order for the church.

Ergo, you think that what you say goes because thus saith Joe and, again, Joe is unaccountable to anyone.

So, let’s go with one example, “you ask, ‘WHERE DOES IT SAY THIS IN THE BIBLE?’ about, ‘the New Testament wherein pastors are gifted by God Himself’” and I showed you were, “so here it is, ‘And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers’ (Eph 4:11).”

But that verified example of God revealed truth is so inconvenient to you that you threw God’s Holy Word away in favor of your man-made tradition: which, as I have pointed out time and again, is what you do time and again.

You have proved that you’re not interested in context but still, the context was, “THE NEW TESTAMENT wherein pastors are gifted by God Himself” (which you reject) and so you say, “YOU DO REALISE PASTORS ARE NOT A JEWISH THING RIGHT?” which is 100% irrelevant since this was about the New Testament and the church.

You then admit that you’re just using a mere guess to reject God’s Holy Word, “AND ITS MOST PROBABLE THAT MOST OF THE EARLY CHRSITIAN CHURCH LEADERS LIKE AT EPHESIS WERE JEWISH CHRISTIANS” which is 100% irrelevant even though it’s accurate since it you said nothing about how some of those Jewish Christians were appointed by God to be pastors (which you reject).

And after saying nothing but merely emoting a guess, you leave it with, “STILL YOUR RANT ABOUT PASTORS IS PECULIAR TO THE TOPIC” which is 100% irrelevant since I was curious as to what your pastor thought about your vile ways and you ended up discrediting yourself even more by, especially now, admitting that you flatly reject God’s word based on some incoherent sidestepping.

See, when someone is teaching falsehoods, I just let them have their say and they will debunk themselves.

So, you want to keep protecting a man-made tradition but it’s more important that you get yourself under the shepherding of a pastor and other sheep who can fellowship with you and also hold you accountable.

Joe Jackson

Friend, you’re a picture perfect example of a man-made religion of your own made in your own image.

HANG ON WHO ARE YOU AGAIN.. ARE YOU THIS SUPPOSED AUTHOR WHO IS ALWAYS PROMOTING HIS BOOK 5 TIMES A POST?

You made false assertions and were called on them.

I’VE NOT BEEN CALLED ON ANYTHING… YOU ARE THE REPETITIVE GUY RIGHT?

You instantly became repulsively ungracefully worldly and hatefully angry.

OH YEAH,, THAT’S YOU… THE REPETITIVE GUY.. SAME INSULTS AND BOOK PROMOTIONS ..THATS ALL I GET FROM YOU.. MAYBE KEEP A FLOW INSTEAD OF RUNNING FOR WEEKS GETTING SOME MORE INDOCTRINATION FROM YOUR LEADERS.

You were caught manipulating God’s word time and again.

YET YOU CAN’T SHOW WHERE.. BUT YOU LOT ARE ALL THE SAME IN ACCUSING WITHOUT EVIDENCE….THAT IS YOUR BASIS FOR DEBATE EVERY TIME… SHALLOW.

You utterly refused correction about that.

CORRECTION FROM WHO? ARE YOU GOD? YOU ARE VERY VERY INSIGNIFICANT TO ME AND LIFE IN GENERAL.. BUT YOU THINK YOU ARE SOMETHING IMPORTANT THAT IS WHY YOU SELF PROMOTE AND SELF LOVE ALL THE TIME.

You are not accountable to anyone since you reject God’s order for the church.

I’M NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO YOU… BUT SINCE I HAVE MADE YOU AWARE OF SCRIPTURE AND THE GOSPEL …. ‘’YOU’’ NOW WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE AT JUDGEMENT.. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT… BUT IT WONT HELP YOU ESCAPE HELL.

Ergo, you think that what you say goes because thus saith Joe and, again, Joe is unaccountable to anyone.

I ‘KNOW’ WHAT I SAY GOES…BECAUSE IT MATCHES WHAT GOD SAYS GOES. BUT YOU CAN TRY TWIST THAT AS YOU LOT DO… AGAIN. WHEN YOU HAVE NO DEBATE IN YOU.. YOU FALL BACK ON FALSE ACCUSATIONS. ITS NOTHING NEW FOR YOUR MOB.

SEE HERE IS A PRIME EXAMPLE.. YOU NEED TO STOP RUNNING FROM MY REPLIES THAT I DO ANSWER… AND RETORT FASTER..

YOUR POSTS MEAN LITTLE WHEN YOU TAKE SO LONG TO GET AN ANSWER FROM YOUR LEADERS..BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, THEY TAKE SO LONG TO INDOCTRINATE YOU.. (OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE A SLOW LEARNER WITH THEM TOO)

WHERE IT SAYS EXACTLY ‘WHAT’? IN THE BIBLE? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO REMEMBER AFTER ALL THIS TIME? (CLEARLY THAT IS YOUR PLAN)

I ANSWERED IN DETAIL ABOUT PASTORS.. THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIAN.. YOU REALLY DON’T KNOW WHAT CHRISTIANS BELIEVE OR EVEN ARE DO YOU.

NO I DON’T THROW AWAY ANY VERSE.. THAT’S YOUR JOB

ITS NOT IRRELEVANT AT ALL.. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS WRITTEN IN THE NT DOES ‘’NOT’’ MEAN ITS TO DO WITH CHRISTIANS. YOU TRULY THINK JESUS WAS A CHRISTIAN DON’T YOU…

JESUS WAS A JEW TALKING TO JEWS AVOIDING GENTILES AS HE TOLD HIS APOSTLES TO DO ALSO. NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO TELL US THAT GENTILE CHRISTIANS HAVE TO DO WHAT JEWS WERE ORDERED TO DO.. SEE YOU CLEARLY THINK JESUS WAS A JEW..AND THAT CHRISTIANS ARE JEWS.. YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT..AND EVERY POST YOU DO PROVES THAT 100%

YOU THINK EVERYTHING IN THE NT IS FOR CHRISTIANS.. YOU THINK NT = CHRISTIANS AND OT=JEWS.. OH WE ARE LAUGHING..

AGAIN YOU DON’T COMPREHEND ENGLISH YET CLAIM TO BE AN AUTHOR.. (WE ARE LAUGHING AGAIN)

YOU THINK EVERYTHING I SAY IS IRRELEVANT BECAUSE YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE AT ALL. THAT IS WHY YOU THINK MY WORDS AND ANSWERS ARE IRRELEVANT, YOU ARE IGNORANT OF SCRIPTURE..OF HISTORY, OF CUSTOMS, OF LANGUAGE, OF PARABLE, OF SYMBOL, OF TIME, OF BASICALLY EVERYTHING NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURE YOU ARE 100% INCAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING .. END OF STORY

WHO IS TALKING TO WHO IN SCRIPTURE IS TOTALLY RELEVANT.. YOU JUST CANT CLAIM ITS FOR PEOPLE OF 2024. SO EVERY LETTER FROM EVERY PERSON IN HISTORY IS ADDRESSED TO ‘’YOU’’ PERSONALLY IS IT? THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE IMPLYING.

YOU NEED TO SEE WHO THE AUTHOR IS, WHO IT IS TOO, THE TIME..THE CUSTOMS THE REASON.. THE PURPOSE, THE POINT..ETC ETC ETC.. YET YOU JUST THINK SOME OLD GUY FROM 50AD OR WHATEVER WAS SENDING YOU A PERSONAL LETTER DETAILING WHAT ‘’YOU’’ SHOULD DO IN 2024…

NO WONDER YOU TAKE SO LONG TO REPLY TO MY CORRECTIONS OF YOUR NONSENSE

A PASTOR IS A SPIRITUAL MINISTER, WHAT SIGNIFICANCE THAT HAS TO DO WITH ANYTHING IS STILL A MYSTERY YOU WONT DEFINE OF COURSE.

WHAT DO PASTORS HAVE TO DO WITH GIANT PEOPLE THAT ARE CLEARLY EVIDENCED FROM SCRIPTURE AS NEPHILIM LIKE ALL BELIEF SYSTEMS AGREE ON BAR YOU???????????????????

JUST ANOTHER VEER BECAUSE YOU ARE BEATEN LIKE AN EGG.

See, when someone is teaching falsehoods, I just let them have their say and they will debunk themselves.

YOU SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH PEOPLE DISAGREEING WITH YOU THEN.. THAT MAKES SENSE

I DOUBT ANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN DEBUNKED, I’M THE ONE DEBUNKING YOUR CRAZY NEPHILIM MYTHOLOGY AND SETTING YOU STRAIGHT WITH BIBLICAL FACTS ABOUT GIANTS…

LEAVE THE DEBUNKING TO ME.. YOU ARE REALLY BAD AT IT

WE GET IT.. YOU THINK BELIEF IN BIBLE AND GOD IS A MAN MADE RELIGION.. YOU ARE ON REPEAT AGAIN… WE GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT

WE JUST HAPPEN TO 100% DISAGREE ON THAT.. AND WHEN I SAY ‘WE’ I MEAN POPULATION EARTH (minus some illogical atheists/evolutionists, but they are as crazy as you so again.. insignificant to life itself)

INTERESTING YOU WANT ME TO FIND A PASTOR YET YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANS. (YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH WORD MEANINGS DON’T YOU.. A ‘LOT’ OF TROUBLE)

TELL ME WHICH ‘’PASTOR’’ WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ‘FOLLOW’ (AGAIN YOU LOVE TO FOLLOW LIKE A SHEEP WITH YOUR WHACKY RELIGION BEING THE EVIDENCE THERE)

SO WHO DO YOU RECOMMEND MY ‘PASTOR’ BE….

TRY AND GIVE NAMES THIS TIME.. I KNOW YOU HATE GIVING SCRIPTURE..AND HATE GIVING EVIDENCE OF ‘’ANY’’ KIND TO ANYTHING YOU http://CLAIM….SO BE A GOOD BOY THIS TIME AND GIVE ME SOME NAMES OF WHO SHOULD BE MY ‘PASTOR’ SO I CAN BECOME A GOOD SHEEPLE JUST LIKE YOU.. HEY.

Ken Ammi

It’s tragically sad witnessing you destroying whatever witness you might ever have had and discrediting yourself in such a hurry—please repent.

I pointed out that I have noted to you how you manipulate God’s word and that I’m starting to see why you do that: you appear to be experiencing reading comprehension problems and maybe cognitive issues.

And I have given you examples of such time and again.

This time around, it’s no different, I noted, “a man-made religion of your own made in your own image” and you move the goal post to, “AUTHOR WHO IS ALWAYS PROMOTING HIS BOOK.”

That’s literally incoherent.

That’s the sort of thing that makes it important for you to stop rejecting God’s word by refusing to be pastored and in fellowship in a local congregation: they really could help you understand how to comport yourself and how to actually think through issues rather than increasingly raging.

Joe Jackson

That’s your pathetic response.. MORE VEERING..

You know you can’t answer the questions and just go on a rant about your assumptions based on the fact you can’t answer a thing you claim that obviously destroys your little golden books you so badly write if going by your replies shows.

Still got a shot even in this post in big large letters of mentioning your book in your twisted way.. but you never let a reply go past without doing that as we have seen each and every post.

You can’t even answer what a ‘pastor’ is because you have no clue. You just assume i don’t have this thing you don’t know the meaning of. Where did i say any such thing?

Seems it is definitely you with all the anger and rage that you deflect to others who disagree with your nonsense,.. You sound like a blue haired democrat extreme left wing nutter hellbent on making everybody in the world agree with your fantasies..

You failed yet again to show how Christiainity is a man made religion? what is your religion..you are the only one on planet Earth that does not believe that Nephilim are Giants.. Even though the bible is clear on that and EVERYONE believes that bar ‘you’.

Why don’t you try putting a case forward from scripture (that we know you hate) to defend your crazy position. You can’t even say what you think nephilim are.. you are too embarrassed to and no wonder.

All you have done is cry that nephilim are not Giants..while never giving any evidence, even when I show evidence 100% that they are. You can’t even explain how giants are still here today, you must think Andre the Giant mummy was a fallen Angel or demon or whatever the hell you think nephilim are that you are too embarrassed to say.

You don’t even understand that if somebody understands what another says, then that hearer knows about the thing the speaker is talking about.. you think because the spies were in your belief untrustworthy that that somehow means every word they ever spoke must have been lies… every single time. you cannot prove they were lying about the giants….. and you don’t even understand that even if they did.. it doesnt change the fact the hearer understood what giants were from previous encounters or knowledge.. or else they would have said.. ‘huh what do you mean don’t go that way there are giants.. what are giants’…. but did they.? no… you just assume everyone in the bible is a liar and everyone is as stupid as you back then.

it takes you so long to post because you hope people reading forget the nonsense you say..that is why you avoided everything again.. hoping time will help you get away with your utter nonsnese… no.. anyone reading can see you have no clue about much at all.

Ken Ammi

Have you ever had discussion with Atheists online?

I ask because you act exactly like a stereotypical Atheist does—and you refuse to be accountable as well. The more it’s proved to you that you know not of what you speak, the more ungraceful, worldly, and hatefully angry you become until you have zero witness left—if, that is, you ever had any.

Please repent.

Joe Jackson

Hey you forgot to advertise your book.. what a slip up.

but you didn’t forget to repeat yourself again and do the old ‘hate/anger’ routine did you… zzzzzzz

So you are still asking around to find somebody somewhere on planet Earth that can help you out with your Nephilim are giants dilemma i see… well keep asking around maybe one day someone will believe the same as you on it.. .but here is a tip for you.. don’t hold your breathe. it seems you will ALWAYS be alone in your belief on Nephilim..

Clearly NOBODY ever has believed like you on it.

So now I’m like an atheist.. here is a funfact for you…

Atheists do NOT believe in a god

I (Christian) DO..

see the difference there… get somebody to explain that Atheists are pretty much the opposite of Christians..

you have soo much to learn.. maybe spend less time writing silly science fiction worst sellers and do some study… google study ..oh that’s right you don’t understand google. Well you are in a pickle aren’t you.

To be you.. bit sucky isn’t it?

Ken Ammi

Please repent and find a good local church with which to fellowship.

That brought the discussion to and end as no more replies were forthcoming.

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