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Dr. Tracy E Barnes answers Where Do Demons Come From

Dr. Tracy E Barnes answered the question Where Do Demons Come From? via a vid by that tiled on his YouTube channel.

I posted the following comment:

Dr. Barnes is correct in that the Bible does not (I will add explicitly) specify whence come demons.

Also correct is that there’s no pre-human-fall war in heaven of fall of any beings: Satan’s fall was during the Gen 3 timeline, the fall of Angels (Satan is a Cherub, not an Angel) was during the Gen 6 timeline, the war is a post-Jesus’ ascension event so does not seem to have happened yet.

To state “A race of giants that are called Nephilim” is misleading and anachronistic since it’s actually “A race of Nephilim that are called giants in some English versions”: and with “giants” not being used to refer to any sort of height whatsoever.

He then notes that demons/unclean spirits “were considered” to be dead Nephilim but didn’t say “considered” by whom—until close to the end.

Only then does he reveal that he means “considered” by what seems to range from theological speculations to folklore from MILLENNIA after the Torah.

And that’s important to note since he referenced, “the ancient texts” but “ancient” is subjective since, for example, the Dead Sea Scrolls and 1 Enoch are “ancient” to us but are still from millennia AFTER the Torah—which is much more “ancient” still.

He notes Nephilim had both a body and immortal spirits but every indication is that so did their parents: Angels and humans.

In short, he made a strictly linguistic argument by chasing the term “unclean spirits” around regardless of context.

A much stronger, and actually biblical, case can be made of that demons/unclean spirits are actually fallen Angels—with a twist. Jude and 2 Peter 2 tell us that those sinful/fallen Angels were incarcerated: that was physically chained while their spirits roam the earth as demons/unclean spirits.

For details, search online for my article, “Demons Ex Machina: What Are Demons?

See my various books here.

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