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Discussion with a serpent seed of Satan theorist

Having performed a fair amount of research into the serpent seed of Satan theory—which proposes that Satan had sex with Eve and so Cain is the literal son of Satan and his bloodline / seedline carries satanic DNA—I reached out to some serpent seed of Satan theorists in order to attempt to interact with them; here is one of their stories.

In this case, the serpent seed of Satan theorist had approvingly discussed the issue with one of the main pop-level proponents of the theory namely, Zen Garcia. The discussion, which either ended or stalled for now, went thusly (I will refer to the Serpent Seed of Satan Theorist as SSST.

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Ken:

I am writing with regards to your video on the lost tribes and seed of the woman/seed of the serpent with Zen Garcia. I thought to write this message so as to not spam your comment section. In case it may be of interest to you: I wrote two detailed replies to Zen within the following articles. These are based on actual interaction I had with him:

Reply to Zen Garcia on the serpent seed of Satan theory

Open reply to Zen Garcia on Cain as serpent seed of Satan

SSST:

Thank you Ken for forwarding me your article about the serpent seed and Zen. I found Zen and his work on line after I had started to see the same thing in the scriptures. We had reached similar conclusions but via different paths. As referenced in 1 Corinth 13:1 one of the ministries of the Holy Spirit is to lead one into “all prophecy, mysteries and knowledge”. The serpent seed doctrine is couched in the scriptures (the 66 book canon) as a “mystery” but when people learn how to be taught and led of the Spirit it really becomes quite evident. I thank you that your tone has been relatively civil and respectful as this is not a “salvation” issue but just one of deeper understanding. When Jesus said he was going to speak to the people in parables He wasn’t kidding. Matt 13:11 Jesus answered them, “To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted. The “them” are people whose hearts had become dull of hearing and understanding. The one parable he did explain was the one about the “wheat and the tares” and He makes it quite clear that the wicked one has “seed” which is the word Zera which absolutely means “genetic offspring by sexual relations”. Over the years in my research in understanding the parabolic language I am more convinced than ever that the “emniity/hatred” between the two seedlines is a major part of the whole whole Bible and story of salvation. The genetics of mankind was first infiltrated in the fall when Eve became the mother of the 1st hybrid race and the mix and mingling of the seedlines has been going on ever since. Understanding this makes the new birth and the cleansing we can receive by the blood of the Lamb so amazing. This knowledge is meant to really come out now at the end of the age. This is what is referenced by the “iron and clay mixing” that Daniel speaks of.

Yashua [Jesus] gives us a free offer of a new DNA that will last forever … how anyone could refuse this and still retain “the mark of the beast” mystifies me. So as you can see Zen and I are in agreement on this doctrine and i will continue to teach it more and more in my upcoming videos, I do believe that my major gifting is to understand mysteries and the parabolic language. Jesus said that in the last days everything hidden would be revealed. Shalom and blessings to you in Yashua’s name.

Ken:

Thanks for the reply. I approached Zen accepting the fact that he has conducted a lot of research and has written various books on this and similar topics: I did not take him or his claims lightly and sought to be fair and reply to his every claim (claims he made to me personally). In the articles for which I sent links, and others, I considered every serpent seed proof text of which I am aware so you will, at least, see my way of looking at the topic. One thing that I would urge you to consider is that words derive their meaning, primarily, from context. In the case of Matthew 13, it is clear that the wicked one’s seed are those who perform actions commensurate to wickedness and has nothing to do with genetics. Also, please consider that just because there are mysteries and parabolic language which are revealed does not mean that the serpent seed theory is one of them.

May I ask, to get your take on it: what will become of people of the hybrid people of Satanic mix with human genetics?

SSST:

Want to answer your question…what will become of people of the hybrid people of Satanic mix with human genetics? “All those who call on the name of the Lord will be saved” Romans 10:13. What Paul saw was this “door to the gentiles” that salvation was being offered even to the gentiles/ beasts/ mixed multitudes.
All things work together for good…all the dispersions/exiles of Israel worked to mix their genetics with the nations till like Yahweh promised Abraham every “nuclear family/clan” would be blessed thru him. Praise Adonai. [ellipses in original]

Ken:

Most excellent, I am glad to hear (or, read) your take on that since well, of course, serpent seed of Satan theorists come in all forms and many seem to just place anyone whom they personally dislike within the category of the Cain seed/blood line. I would love to get a reply from you in the future once you have digested the articles regarding Zen’s views and claims.

May God bless you and yours.

Well, it appears that SSST never got around to reading the articles as they have not been referenced as of yet.

SSST:

First a question. Do you take Gen 6 to refer to the Sethite line and Cainite woman or were the “Sons of God” an angelic order and human woman….which pairing in your opinion made “the mighty men.”

I replied with reference to that I did not see SSST’s reply where we were having the discussion but ran into it on Google+ and ended with:

Anyhow, angels and humans.

SSST:

If you believe angels and humans then why is it it hard to believe Satan (an angel) and Eve (a human) could also mate and create a hybrid. btw one of the archaic definitions of a hybrid is “a goat/sheep hybrid…a son of outrageous conduct.”

Ken:

Well friend, you are presupposing that I reject that Satan (who is not an angel) and Eve (a human) could mate because it is hard for me to believe. What is or is not hard for me to believe is actually not relevant. As you could see from reading my two very detailed articles replying to Zen (plus many more that I have written on the topic) it is an issue of hermeneutics. It is not that it is hard for me to believe rather, it would be easy for me to believe if it was biblical.

“a son of outrageous conduct”—I love it ;o)

Well, that is as far as it has gone thus far and based on the amount of time that has elapsed since my last reply I am unsure if it will continue; if it does, I will update this.


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