Discussion on “Are the Revelation 9 Locusts Actually Sumerian Nephilim Scorpion Hybrids?”

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The following discussion took place due to the YouTube video, “Are the Revelation 9 Locusts Actually Sumerian Nephilim Scorpion Hybrids?”

I, Ken Ammi, commented:

“Are the Revelation 9 Locusts Actually Sumerian Nephilim Scorpion Hybrids?” No, they are not:
1. They are not locusts but are like locusts (in that they are in great number and bring ruin).
2. They are not “Sumerian Nephilim” or any Nephilim since the last of them died in the flood never to return.

The following discussion took place due to the YouTube video, “Are the Revelation 9 Locusts Actually Sumerian Nephilim Scorpion Hybrids?”

I, Ken Ammi, commented:

“Are the Revelation 9 Locusts Actually Sumerian Nephilim Scorpion Hybrids?” No, they are not:
1. They are not locusts but are like locusts (in that they are in great number and bring ruin).
2. They are not “Sumerian Nephilim” or any Nephilim since the last of them died in the flood never to return.
3. They are not “Sumerian Nephilim Scorpion Hybrids” since there is no indication that there ever was, is or will be any such thing. Since they come out of the Abyss/bottomless pit where the fallen sons of God Angels were incarcerated then it is clearly them. The various descriptive terms are symbolic (as in point 1. above) and each aspect can be found defined through the Bible (such as hair like women meaning they are under authority, stinging like scorpions denoting Satanic power, etc.).

Hammer Candy replied:

In Gen. 6 And after. Uh. Was Goliath pre flood?

Ken Ammi:

Thanks. Well, you say “And after” but do not tell us after what? You must be thinking after the flood but the text tells us twice when “those days” were: v. 1, “when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them” and v. 4, “in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them.”
Thus, “those days” could have been as early as when Adam and Eve’s children began having children. Yet, whenever it was, the fact is that those were the days and so after that simply means after that but still all pre-flood.
No, Goliath was not pre-flood but there is no indication whatsoever that he was a Nephilim.

Ng David chimed in with:

There are two groups of demons. The 1st group are fallen angels. The 2nd group are hybrid beings that perished in the floods and are now called Rephaim. Job.26:5-6 ‘Rephaim are formed from under the waters, and the inhabitants (of Sheol) thereof.’ Rephaim demons have hideous looks and many are without wings and they inhabit Hades. The prince of the air is the dragon in the sky. The ruler of the darkness of this world is the false prophet. The king of Hades is the Beast or Destroyer, a Rephaim. Rev.16:13-14 Eph.6:12

Ken Ammi:

Well, that may be but you are piecing together speculations. The Bible does not specify what demons are (although I speculate that, indirectly, they are fallen Angels). The Bible uses the term Repha in two ways: as a general reference to people group(s) and what you quoted from Job (even though you inserted “(of Sheol)” into the text. Yet, there is no indication that “Rephaim demons have hideous looks and many are without wings” and “The prince of the air” as well as “the dragon in the sky” are not references to demons but to Satan (such as in Rev 12). Rev 16:13-14 and Eph 6:12 say nothing of Rephaim.
But my comment still stands as that has nothing to do with Nephilim.

Linemans Wife:

They came back after the flood…… for example: Goliath. [ellipses in original]

Ken Ammi:

Well friend, there is no indication that they came back after the flood (unless you want to believe disloyal/unfaithful spies who were said to present a bad/evil report and were rebuked for it) and there is no indication that Goliath was a Nephil.

And now we come to “grimslayer Brittain” who get nastier and nastier:

Your theology is skewed. “There were giants in those days- also after. (the flood). Goliath, and his brothers. King Og. (study better) ⚔

Ken Ammi:

Friend, may I note that you quote “There were giants in those days- also after” but you insert the statement “the flood” which is not in the text. Yet, the text tells us twice when “those days” were: v. 1, “when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them” and v. 4, “in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them.”
Thus, “those days” could have been as early as when Adam and Eve’s children began having children. Yet, whenever it was, the fact is that those were the days and so after that simply means after that but still all pre-flood.
There is no indication whatsoever that Goliath, his sons or Og were Nephilim.

grimslayer Brittain:

Ken Ammi lol, he wasn’t nephilim, he was rephaim. As was Goliath. Both examples of post-flood giants, (the offspring of the nephilim). Selah. ⚔ .

Ken Ammi:

I am not sure to whom you are referring by “he.” I wrote, “There is no indication whatsoever that Goliath, his sons or Og were Nephilim.”
Now, you prove that you recognize the distinction between the Hebrew term “nephilim” and the Hebrew term “rephaim” so in writing “Both examples of post-flood giants” why do you switch to English? The problem is that when you switched to English you conclude that “giants” are “the offspring of the nephilim” but there is no indication of that.
There were pre-flood Nephilim and post-flood Rephaim but the two are unrelated.

grimslayer Brittain wrote two comments in a row:

Goliath, and Og were refaim, tbe offspring of tndd nephilim. Goliath, and his brothers, were listed as “giants” *Strong’s Concordance. Goliath’s sword, is listed large- beyond human use in combat. Og’s bed, lists-out at 19 feet. Deal with it. ⚔ .
Nephilim, and Rephaim, are only seperated by the flood. As until the giant wars, (immediately preceding the Flood)- giants remained unslain, ergo “nephilim”. TECHNICALLY, there were -0- giants, until the fallen angels, (nephilim) procreated them. Ergo, rephaim = (“the spirit of that, which cannot live). Giants walk the Earth, this day. Study better. ⚔ .

Ken Ammi:

Friend, you cannot just claim that “Goliath, and Og were…offspring of tndd nephilim” but must show quotations and citations: but you will not be able to since the Bible states no such thing—that is just something someone made up.
That “Goliath, and his brothers, were listed as” the English word “giants” means nothing unless you can tell me specifically what that word means and I know what it means: in this case, it means Rephaim and that word tells us nothing about height. So you cannot just chase the English word “giants” around the Bible and think that doing that is doing theology: it is not.
That “Goliath’s sword, is listed large- beyond human use in combat” is something else that someone invented and is not in the Bible. The Bible tells us that when David needs a sword to use, he gets Goliath’s (1 Samuel 21:9).
“Og’s bed, lists-out at 19 feet” but so what? Why was it so big? You cannot myopically demand that it MUST ONLY be because he was that height. FYI: my bed is five times wider than I am. There are historical reasons to think that the size of furniture does not necessarily equal the size of the person who used it. John Peter Lange noted the following in “Lange’s Commentary on the Holy Scripture, Volume 1: Genesis to Ruth, “It is an interesting fact that Alexander the Great, in his march to India, arranged his camp grounds and cavalry cribs in double number and of unusual size, that he might produce in the inhabitants of the land strange ideas of the size of his army.”
Nephilim, and Rephaim, are separated by the flood and by the fact that they have nothing to do with each other whatsoever (that is why you cannot quote or cite anything but just keep making up stuff). I have no idea what you mean by “As until the giant wars, (immediately preceding the Flood)- giants remained unslain, ergo ‘nephilim’” but I do know that you cannot merely insert the word Nephilim where the Bible DOES NOT use it.
Fallen Angels did not procreated whatever is meant by the English word “giants” but procreated Nephilim. But now you insert the word Rephaim where the Bible does not.
Also, if “Giants walk the Earth, this day” you will have to tell me what “Giants” means and tell me where they are.
Telling me to “Deal with it” and “Study better” is childishly embarrassing: I am not merely making up stuff without evidence but am presenting you quotations and citations: please do the same.

grimslayer Brittain:

Ken Ammi your wall of text will be read by no man. Thats how-much you know – (just-enough to be ignored by the whole of mankind). Lol. Debate maturity, (or not)- -i’m good either-way. Selah. (“Ignorance, is a piss-poor argument.” -*grimslayer Brittain) ⚔

Ken Ammi:

Are you a Christian?

grimslayer Brittain:

Ken Ammi i declare the Lord, until He declaers Himself. ⚔.

Ken Ammi

I will take that as a “no” then, which actually explains your bad attitude: please repent.

grimslayer Brittain :

Ken Ammi lol, which only proves you have -0- spiritual discernment. Might outta ask God to change that- (in this time frame princess, that kind of stupid will get you, and the ones you love – killed) Selah. ⚔ .

Ken Ammi:

Wow, you are clearly experiencing some emotional problems (to say the least): please repent.

grimslayer Brittain :

Ken Ammi lol, is “buttstupid” a way of life, for you ? ‘Cuz damn.

Ken Ammi:

Jesus said that we would know His followers by their fruit: what sort of fruit is evidenced by comments such as the one you made—a comment, I will add, made after being begged to repent.

grimslayer Brittain :

Ken Ammi [********], ypu asked me long-ago now, if i was a Christian- i declared i would proclaim the Messiah’s Name, until i die. In your infefnal wisdom, you decided i must be a pagan, (whaddamook). Once you proved yourself, not worthy of discernment – i, like you, decided you must be a pagan . . . I am commanded to speak to pagans, in terms they understand. Beat-it stain.

Ken Ammi:

Friend, you are clearly experiencing some very, very serious emotional, psychological and spiritual problems. You may recall that I asked “Are you a Christian?” and based on your malicious reactions I concluded that you must not be.
But you are actually attempting to get me to believe that you are by being increasingly more hateful, childish and vile. Please bring this to the attention of your pastor and pray about it—a lot. Again, Jesus said that we would know His followers by their fruit and not by their mere claims.

grimslayer Brittain :

Ken Ammi you offend me. ⚔ . Honor the living God.

Ken Ammi:

Friend, I am unsure how or why I offend you so you will have to tell me how and why. But are you saying that when someone offends you, you do not turn the other cheek but attack them?

grimslayer Brittain :

God says to not do it. Grow up punk, and leave my Christian backside, alone- dog. Wrap your skull around that. Selah. ⚔ .

Ken Ammi:

Friend, I asked that you “tell me how and why” “I offend you” and asked “are you saying that when someone offends you, you do not turn the other check but attack them?” So, when you reply “God says to not do it” I know not to what you are referring. But if you are interested in obeying that which God tells us no to do then stop behaving as you have been. Also, by the way, I am not a “dog” but a human created in God’s image—as are you.

Wow, and with that wild and tragic ride, he/she and/or it never replied again.

Lastly, there were some one-liner discussions.

LionessTee d:

Ken they serve satan I’ve seen them in a vision…They look like the predator and may have a tail like the demon in Alien to sting. God bless

Ken Ammi:

Friend, your visions always need to be judged by the Bible. In any case, this has nothing to do with Nephilim. Might it be possible that you watched horror-sci fi movies and had a psychological reaction to them?

Fishing Family:

Mixture of dna, can provide flying locust/ scorpions.

Ken Ammi:

Well, the fact is that though the Bible we find that each description of them is symbolically defined for us so when the Bible defines itself there is no need to run with speculations de jour.

CANDY YAHUAH’S DAUGHTER:

Genesis 6:4 King James Version (KJV) 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Ken Ammi:

I appreciate the quotation but am unsure of the point: yes, that is what that text states in that version.

And, that’s all folks.

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On the Genesis 6 Affair’s Sons of God: Angels or Not? A survey of early Jewish and Christian commentaries including notes on giants and the Nephilim
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