What happened to the giant people (Nephilim) mentioned in Genesis before Noah’s flood? Did they survive the flood like some other animals did? was a question answered by a certain Tyron Van Rooyen after he replied and I commented in turn.
He noted
Only Noah and his sons with their wives survived the flood.
The Nephilim were the product of the union of watchers (angels) and females of the human kind.
They were all destroyed in the flood. Though some of that mixed DNA passed through the flood by one of the wives of the sons of Noah.
This explains the origin Og of Bashan and Goliath and his kin.
I, Ken Ammi, replied
You imply God failed: He meant to be rid of them via the flood but couldn’t get the job done, He must have missed a loophole that you found, the flood was much of a waste, etc. See, fallacious Nephilology negatively effects theology proper. Also, post-flood Nephilologists have to just invent un-biblical tall-tales about how they made it past the flood.
As for “This explains the origin Og of Bashan and Goliath and his kin” but they were Rephaim, not Nephilim.
Tyron Van Rooyen
True/false is merely your bias.
What the Lord of Hosts did was rid the earth of them, their technology, their depravity, while still saving a remnant to start the human race afresh without their intervention.
All the Bible tells us is that they were about before the flood and that they came around again a little later.
It makes sense that they are not Nephilim, but that’s just splitting hairs if you glossing over the important stuff.
Ken Ammi
Sorry, I don’t get is since, for example, you appeared to have written “What the Lord of Hosts did was rid the earth of them [Nephilim], their [Nephilim] technology, their [Nephilim] depravity, while still saving a remnant [of humans] to start the human race afresh without their [Nephilim] intervention. All the Bible tells us is that they [Nephilim] were about before the flood and that they [Nephilim] came around again a little later. It makes sense that they are not Nephilim…”
So then, you weren’t referring to Nephilim after all so about whom were you referring?
Who “came around again a little later”?
And that “they are not Nephilim” but explain “As for ‘This explains the origin Og of Bashan and Goliath and his kin’ but they were Rephaim, not Nephilim.”
Tyron Van Rooyen
Read the original question. It was about the men of renown, the giants of old.
I was drawing a distinction between the “Nephelim” and giant men.
One (Nephelim) is the direct result of the unholy union of man and angel, while the other (human) is a spill-over of the genome that was carried though those who survived the flood.
Ken Ammi
The original question is, “What happened to the giant people (Nephilim) mentioned in Genesis before Noah’s flood? Did they survive the flood like some other animals did?”
Some key questions are:
What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles?
What’s your usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants”?
Do those two usages agree?
Without those answers, I can’t know what you mean by “giants of old…giant men” except that you refer to “spill-over of the genome that was carried though those who survived the flood” which implies that you think that God failed, is that the case? He meant to be rid of them via the flood but must have missed their genetic survival so that the flood was much of a waste.
Tyron Van Rooyen
Let God be true and every man a liar. The Lord of Host, the Almighty, the Creator of all life and the Judge of the universe cannot fail or make mistakes. This must be your first point of departure, and any shortfall is that of your ability / inability to comprehend His glory.
When I first became a Walker of the Way, I resigned within myself that everything that I read in the Bible to be true, and whatever I do not understand or exceeds my perception will be my fault and something the He alone can resolve for me.
When one takes that position, you be open for teaching and not stuck in your pride, that will hinder growth.
Throw as many doubts as you like at the Word of God and you will never grow in the knowledge of your Creator.
Ken Ammi
Fascinatingly, I’ve asked those key questions to dozens and dozens (and dozens [and dozens]) of people who go on and on (and on [and on]) about “giants” and literally zero have replied.
Friend, I’ve had similar discussion with dozens upon dozens upon dozens upon dozens of people like you who make faulty assertions, are called to back them, realize they can’t, and so they turn worldly and dismissive.
Please repent.
That brought the discussion to and end as no more replies were forthcoming.
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