*I also find it fascinating that you still excuse Pagan merely charging them with ignorance and end up besmirching the Bible.
I am afraid that you are piling unfounded assertion upon unfounded assertion. *I find it fascinating that you assume that im simply excusing pagan ritual sacrifice while only being angry at biblical sacrifice and/or killing of humans. I’m not sure what I said that lead you to that conclusion. They were BOTH done out of ignorance and observance of their religion. So I am really not sure where you’re coming from by saying that my assertions are unfounded.
Your goal of securing societal health but why and just your society or that of, say, ISIS as well?
Societal health of the world as a whole. If we have people that are trying to ruin societal health, they should be dealt with. Imprisonment, separation from society, counseling to help them understand about the good of helping our societal health.
You have empathy but why? This may be a Darwinian misfiring as you should be striving to survive as the fittest much like the Allied Forces survived and the Nazis did not.
..And.. you obviously know nothing of evolution. We evolved as a social species. We depend on others. Those that could work cooperatively with other members of their species, or like as the earliest modern human ancestors did, with the wolves, which later evolved to the loyal dog counterparts we have today, survived far better than those that DIDNT work cooperatively.
*You don’t want to die but the rate of death is currently one per person: you may not want to but you will.
Others don’t want to die but why appeal to someone’s arbitrary desire to stay alive for a mere few more years?*Why not?
It is illogical to calculate that the reason to not “kill anyone that I feel like” (in which case you are referring to “murder”) is because you “don’t want it to happen to me” as there is no known metric that would, necessarily, equate the one action with the other
… my life.. is equivalent to another persons life. I dont want to suffer, therefore I shouldnt make others suffer. I’m really not understanding what you’re trying to say here.
*You claim that you can’t impose today’s understanding on a past civilization but you do exactly that when you besmirch the Bible’s contents. But you attempt to side step this contradictory dilemma by referring to the Bible as a book (it is a volume and not a book: 66 books by 40 authors) that was inspired by God.
Well, the human sacrificing Pagans also claimed to be divinely inspired so please spend circa 99% of your time polemical time condemning them.*As I said, if a book is saying that an ultimately moral being is doing these evil things, while claiming to be only good then i have EVERY justification to speak out against it.
As far as the pagans go, I’ve already agreed that killing other people in the name of religion isnt right. The condemnation is already there. However pagans arent doing anything right NOW. Pagans arent the one in charge and trying to abandon scientific method in favor of their religious beliefs. So. Pagan and christian or any other religious killing for sacrifices are equal in my book, but I dont give a f[***] about Pagans because they arent a threat to anything. It’s the same reason I am not concerned with debunking the Bigfoot/Lochness myths or the other thousands of gods of old.
You assert that God should tell people not to do something like that even when you have already admitted that you know that God condemns human sacrifice.
I assert that If God doesnt want you to do something, he should lead by example, and not have anything that would even HINT at seeming contradictory. He shouldnt kill, he shouldnt COMMAND other people to kill while simultaneously telling people to not kill.
It seems to me, and please do correct me if I am wrong, that at least in moments of clarity you can see that Atheism has left you unable to condemn anything at all on any basis but whatever unfounded assertion strikes you at any given time—and that makes for no condemnation at all.
Yup, you’re wrong…. as ive said above. I can easily condemn the evil acts perpetrated by any religion and be justified.
But these conclusions are ultimately interpretations of bio-chemical neural reactions occurring with the haphazardly evolved gray matter of a temporarily existing bio-organism, sitting atop a spinning rock, orbiting an average star in the backwaters of a temporarily existing universe—so what is the problem again?
…Since we dont have access to some sort of Objective morality and thus can only RELY on those electro-chemical processes residing in biochemical bodies, we have to use that to figure out our morality. We set up goals for ourselves and the world around us, and societal health, though it may not be objective, the opposite is not an acceptable option. If you can come up with a better system, then by all means. However, I refuse to follow by a system that is inconsistent, self-contradictory, and has currently so far, NOT BEEN WORKING.
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