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TheAtheistChef:
In the bible, Human sacrifice is what it is. The person died. If the person died for the sake of some religion, then it is unjustified. It may have not fit the rules and regs of the jewish “sacrifice” but still the person was sacrificed. The bible is very clear on that. 1. Its an unjustified murder 2. It violates civil rights 3. It is not conducive to societal health.
Why do you ask?
Ken Ammi:
Friend, I find it interesting that you employ evilbible.com’s modus operandi which is to ignore actual human sacrifice performed by Pagans who actually sacrificed humans in actual worship of their gods and instead claim that the Jews committed human sacrifice even whilst knowing that it was forbidden for them to do so. Whenever they did so it was when they ignored God, turned away from Him and worshipped false Pagan gods thus, they were not following Judaism or their God at those times. Again, you are confusing sacrifice and capital punishment. In any regard, I asked the question so I should focus on that and I asked because if you condemn something then I imagined that you have a reason for doing so. You previously condemned human sacrifice and explain that “it is unjustified” as “an unjustified murder…violates civil rights” and “is not conducive to societal health.” Firstly, human sacrifice was the opposite of not being conducive to societal health for those Pagan cultures that engaged in it. In fact, it was a form of societal cohesion and, by the way, who are you to condemn them and tell them that they are wrong? Well you explain that by noting that “it is unjustified” but unjustified by what? What standard? What premise (this was my original question)? It is also “an unjustified murder” but by what standard or upon what premise do you condemn murder?
It “violates civil rights” but of course it does not as you cannot impose today’s first world countries’ concept of civil rights upon the ancient past (unless you want to claim that ethics are absolute in which case, just say so).
TheAtheistChef:
It’s not an evil bible operandi. It’s a simple matter of fact. He vowed to sacrifice to god. She was sacrificed. Plain and simple. There’s no getting around that. Regardless of its violation of levitical law, because he wasn’t doing a sacrifice for sins. But it doesn’t matter. He killed her as he said in his vow. Saying that the pagan culture sacrificed people is NOT the same as saying it was conducive to societal health . Don’t confuse societal norms and societal health. Who am I ? Someone that has a goal of securing societal health. Someone that has empathy and knows that I don’t want to die and I know that others don’t want to die. So if the question is ” should I kill anyone that I feel like ” the answer is no , because I don’t want it to happen to me. Of course I can’t impose today’s understanding on a past civilization. They acted upon ignorance when they did human sacrifice. They didn’t know better. We have people to say that are still just as ignorant.
However, i CAN look at a book that was supposedly written by an all good all powerful being that is supposed to be the most moral being in the universe and foundation for said morals and say ” no moral being would tell people to do something like that ” or i can at the very least question the morality of a being that would do something like the things that they have done.
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