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I ran across the article “Fallen Angels and Nephilim Hybrids Questions and Answers” under the “Christian Apologetics Study” category of the website eliotelwarapologetics.com but found that the comment section was closed and there was no way to contact the author so I will offer some thoughts hereinafter.

The first sentence is the question “Who or what were the Nephilim?” and by word three of the answer, we have a problem already.

I ran across the article “Fallen Angels and Nephilim Hybrids Questions and Answers” under the “Christian Apologetics Study” category of the website eliotelwarapologetics.com but found that the comment section was closed and there was no way to contact the author so I will offer some thoughts hereinafter.

The first sentence is the question “Who or what were the Nephilim?” and by word three of the answer, we have a problem already.
The answer is “The Nephilim (gigantic hybrid humans)” which they rightly note were offspring of Angels mating with humans: this is the original, traditional and majority view amongst the earliest Jews and Christians as I prove in my book On the Genesis 6 Affair’s Sons of God: Angels or Not?
So what is the problem, stating that they were gigantic since Genesis 6 does not provide a physical description of them whatsoever—we will get to Numbers 13 as we progress.

The article notes “Many of the pre-flood and early post-flood Nephilim were gigantic in their physical size ranging from 9 to 36 feet tall and weighing from 900 to 3,600 pounds.” If you are wondering what quotations or citations were provided to back these claims well, there are none because there are none to be had: this is just made up stuff.
Firstly, the Bible only knows about pre-flood Nephilim and there is simply no such thing as early or latter “post-flood Nephilim”—we will get to Numbers 13 as we progress ;o)
Since we have no physical description of them in the entire Bible (we will get to well, you know) then the only way to claim that they were 9-36 feet, much less their weight, is either a tall tale or pulled from this or that folkloric apocryphal text.

After referring to “post-flood Nephilim,” the article oddly refers to “When the Nephilim giants were destroyed during the global flood.” This is biblically accurate but on the article’s post-flood Nephilim premise how could they have been destroyed by the flood?
What the rest of the statement is, is that “their dead bodies released demons” but this is merely (uncited) folkloric apocrypha from one of the (plural) books of Enoch—see my book In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch.

We are then told an elaborate tale that the reason why fallen Angels would do such a thing is that they “are evil, twisted beings, who all hate God and humankind…were attempting to increase their numbers…by polluting the human bloodline in order to prevent the coming of Messiah Yeshua” which may be accurate but the reason why no quotations or citations are provided is that there are none to be had. What we are told is, “the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.” There may have been more to it than that and Revelation 12 shows that Satan had something to do with their fall (although he did not partake in their same sin) but that is all we are told.

For some reason, after Q&Aing “Who or what were the Nephilim?” the article Q&As “What were the Nephilim?” and then strictly refers to whence I knew they were getting most of their info, “According to Hebraic and other legends (the books of Enoch, Jasher, Jubilees, and other non-biblical paleo Hebrew writings” and so again, they refer to a “race of giants and super-heroes who did acts of great evil” which may be true but again, that is not quite biblical but only apocryphal as all the Bible states about them is that they “became mighty men which were of old, men of renown” even though what the sons of God Angels and perhaps also what the Nephilim did was part of the premise for “that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”

The article seeks to elucidated how “Their great size and power” came to be: which we now know is a biblical non-issue but only a folkloric apocryphal one. The article’s speculation is that this “likely came from the mixture of fallen angelic ‘DNA’ with human genetics.”

The article then Q&As “What happened to the Nephilim?” and refers to them being “one of the primary reasons for the global flood…All else” besides Noah and fam, “perished, including the Nephilim population” so then, whence come the alleged “post-flood Nephilim”?

Well, we finally come to “Were there Nephilim after the flood?” the answer to which is “Genesis 6:4 tells us, ‘The Nephilim hybrids were on the Earth in those days, and also afterward,’” well yes, they were hybrids but that word has been inserted into the text.
Clearly, the article takes “also afterward” to mean post-flood but they cannot know that until they know what is meant by “those days.” And we can know that because the text tells us twice including in the portion they quote, “when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them” (which is the same thing stated in v. 1) which could have been as early as when Adam and Eve’s children started having children. Yet, whenever those days were, after that only means that: after it began but still pre-flood—this view is actually more natural to the immediate context and the greater context (since there are no post-flood Nephilim, etc.).

The article merely asserts “The fallen angels repeated their sin sometime after the global flood” and, yes again, the reason why no quotations and citations are provided is that they do not exist—this is a merely implication of the erroneous presupposition of post-flood Nephilim: in other words, a false view causes one to invent other false views in order to buttress it.
The article then even claims to know that “it took place to a much lesser extent than it did prior to the global flood” and we finally get to Numbers 13 with “When the Israelites spied out Canaan land, they reported back to Moses: ‘We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them’ (Numbers 13:33)” which implies building a gigantic doctrine on one single verse: which, of course, is hermeneutially inappropriate.
This commented upon as “It appears that” which is actually a great qualifying term “after the flood the fallen angels again mated,” etc. so the appearance is merely just that as it never happened.

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There is a reason why that one verse is the one and only place in the entire Bible where we get 1. post-flood Nephilim, 2. that the Anakim are related to Nephilim and 3. that the Nephilim are very, very tall.
That verse was stated by disloyal/unfaithful spies who were said to present a bad/evil report and were rebuked for it. Also, Moses and Caleb affirm the Anakim were in the land and God affirms the Amalekites and Canaanites were in the land but none of them say anything about Nephilim nor that those tribes were related to them.
You will find that if you read that whole portion of Num 13 again that the spies speak good of the land, but are afraid of strong people and fortified cities, Caleb chimes in to encourage the people and only then are the spies said to present an evil/bad report and only within that evil/bad report do they make claims about which the entire rest of the Bible knows absolutely nothing.
Moreover, Moses, Caleb (and by extension, Joshua) affirm that Anakim were in the land but say nothing about Nephilim or relationship to Nephilim and God Himself affirms that Amalekites and Canninites were in the land but says nothing about Nephilim or relationship to Nephilim.
Thus, you can believe disloyal/unfaithful spies who were said to present a bad/evil report and were rebuked for it or you can believe Moses, Caleb, Joshua and, oh yeah, God Himself.

The article then notes that “These ‘giants’ were destroyed by the Israelites during their invasion of Canaan (Joshua 11:21–22) and later in their history (Deuteronomy 3:11; 1 Samuel 17).” To be fair, here are those texts:
Joshua 11:21–22, “And at that time came Joshua, and cut off the Anakims from the mountains, from Hebron, from Debir, from Anab, and from all the mountains of Judah, and from all the mountains of Israel: Joshua destroyed them utterly with their cities. There was none of the Anakims left in the land of the children of Israel: only in Gaza, in Gath, and in Ashdod, there remained.”
Deuteronomy 3:11, “For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.”

Did you notice anything about destroying giants? No and you will not as that is not in the Bible—and you will pardon me for not quoting the entire chapter of 1 Samuel 17 but feel free to read it: nothing is there about Nephilim.
But note that some English Bibles use “giants” to translate both the pre-flood “Nephilim” and also the post-flood “Rephaim” but since these are not related at all pseudo-translating both as “giants” does not help and actually causes problems because it results in people chasing the English word around the Hebrew Bible and causing them to connect things that the texts actually never connect.

The article then refers us to “the research of Dr. L.A. Marzulli and Stephen Qualye [sic.]” about how the Nephilim supposedly migrated all over the place. Now, I have personally interacted with Marzulli and he is a swell guy but he is as much as “Dr.” as Dr. Pepper, Dr. Seuss or Dr. Dre: he is a swell guy but is very, very mistaken on many, many of his views. As a mere example, a police officer in England reported people who were “all over 6ft” but when Marzulli mentioned this he told his audience that they were likely 8-9ft because, well, if your ministry is based on tall tales you will essentially have nothing to do without making something out of nothing.

As for Quayle well, how to put this? If you call him up and claim to be a retired four star general who used to have triple dog dare you clearance to secret information about how the anti-Christ will be the resurrection of Flipper the dolphin then he will make the interview and lecture rounds claiming as much—the more outlandish the claim and the more it is based on, by golly, secret info to which no one has access so no one could possibly double check his claims, the better (for him).
We are also told “According to Dr. Chuck Missler, post-flood Nephilim hybrids would be smaller in physical size because the post-flood atmosphere no longer facilitates optimum genetic expression. This means that modern Nephilim hybrids would range from 6 to 18 feet tall and they wound weigh around 200 to 1800 pounds.” Again, merely made up tall tales: all of this.

The next Q&A is “What prevents the fallen angels from producing more Nephilim today?” the answer to which begins with an “It seems” which is that “God put an end to fallen angels mating with humans by placing all the fallen angels who committed such an act in isolation” which is correct but it was not post-flood.
Now, the article actually emphasized that which I aforementioned, which is that what the sons of God Angels and perhaps also what the Nephilim did was part of the premise for for the flood. Thus, any concept of post-flood Nephilim or a return of Nephilim implies a successful defeat of God’s purposes for the flood.

The article then actually quotes Jude regarding “The angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.” Note the absoluteness of the statement in that it was “The angels” all of them and not only some of the ones that fell and all of “these” are incarcerated.
However, the article’s author decided to claim, “Obviously, not all fallen angels are in ‘prison’ today, so there must have been a group of fallen angels who committed further grievous sin beyond the original fall.”
To reinforce Jude, as if one would need to, note that 2 Peter 2 is just as absolute, “God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell [actually Tartarus] and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment”: to reiterate, this was about all fallen “angels when they sinned” and He “cast them” all.
Yet, directly after telling us that “Obviously, not all fallen angels…,” the article then notes, “Presumably, the fallen angels who mated with human females are the ones who are ‘bound with everlasting chains.’ This would prevent any more Fallen angels from attempting such sin.” Well, yeah right, correct, indeed so what happened to the “Obviously, not all fallen angels” claim?

The last Q&A is “Will the fallen angels commit the same evil in the future?” the answer to which is that “passages found in Daniel, Matthew, and Revelation reveals that following the pre-tribulation rapture the fallen angels will return to Earth and create Nephilim hybrids again similar to how they made these hybrids during the days of Noah (Matthew 24:37).”

The last Q&A is “Will the fallen angels commit the same evil in the future?” the answer to which is that “passages found in Daniel, Matthew, and Revelation reveals that following the pre-tribulation rapture the fallen angels will return to Earth and create Nephilim hybrids again similar to how they made these hybrids during the days of Noah (Matthew 24:37).”
I will let the pre-tribulation rapture comment pass and focus on my context which is the claim that “the fallen angels will return to Earth” which is true, or so it seems to me, as per Revelation 9 wherein they are released from the bottomless pit/Abyss/Tartarus and described in symbolic manners but that they will “create Nephilim hybrids again” is made up stuff. Also, the reference to “the days of Noah (Matthew 24:37)” within the context of Nephilim is utterly misguided as Jesus’ point was very clearly about people going about as business as usual whilst being unaware of coming judgment: Jesus makes that very clear & clearer still since He said the same of the days of Lot (Luke 17:29) which most certainly had nothing to do with Nephilim nor fallen Angels.

But the article went a little beyond vague citations of entire books (very little) in elucidating, “According to Daniel 2:43, ‘And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile. As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay.’ The words mingle with the seed of men refers to genetic manipulation of human populations to accelerate the lie of ‘human evolution.’”
This is the epitome of Nephilim sci-fi as all of that stuff about new Nephilim being created, genetic manipulation to accelerate human evolution, etc. is literally being read into not even one single verse but one single word “mingle” (although, when others pull this card they focus on the word “they”). The issue is that the entire book of Daniel knows nothing whatsoever of fallen Angels nor Nephilim so it is simply illegitimate to make such grandiose claims based on one single word: this is taking a text (or one single word) out of context to make a pretext for a prooftext.

The article also claims, “According to 2 Thessalonians 2:3, ‘Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition’…the Greek words son of perdition really means son of Satan. This passage reveals that Satan who is a fallen angel will father a son that Scripture refers to as the Anti-Christ or Anti-Messiah. This means that the coming Anti-Messiah will be a Nephilim hybrid.”
This likewise is made up stuff. Firstly, perdition (apōleia) refers to destroying, perishing, etc. Secondly, Satan cannot be a fallen Angel since he is a Cherub—and Angles, Cherubim and Seraphim are different categories of being. Thirdly, there is no indication whatsoever that Satan with “father a son…the Anti-Christ.” And fourthly, there is no indication whatsoever that the “Anti-Messiah will be a Nephilim hybrid.”

Overall, the article is literally saturated with disinformation and misinformation (not to mention vague claims, assertions, contradictions and loose ends) which is quite sad to see from a site which proports to be about a “Christian Apologetics Study”—although, they should apologize for that, sadly, very poor article.

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