The following discussion took place when the Artefactum Youtube channel posted a video titled The Nephilim: Biblical Giants Evidence Found in Israel!
A certain @edwardconnor3268 commented
There were giants in the earth ,in those days and afterwards.
@bdawg-qj9bq replied
No. No there wasn’t.
@edwardconnor3268
theres more evidence to the contrary.
I, @kenammi355, asked
“afterwards” of when?
@mike_MT_jonez
Before and after the flood.
@franroxburgh6055
The origin of the nephilim is given in Genesis 6:4. Some commentators say that one reason that the Israelites were told to destroy everyone in Canaan was to rid the earth of these diabolical creatures.
@kenammi355 to @franroxburgh6055
Those commentator are demonstrably mistaken. In order to merely assert that they first have to invent an un-biblical manner whereby to get Nephilim past the flood (which implies that God failed and the flood was much of a waste), then they have to literally invent that Israelites were told to destroy everyone in Canaan to rid the earth of Nephilim by ignoring the many times that God told us why He commanded those things but never said one single word about Nephilim.
@kenammi355 to @mike_MT_jonez
I see. Well, since that’s not from the Bible: whence did you get that idea and how did you get Nephilim past the flood?
@mike_MT_jonez
come on!
Genesis 6:4
King James Version
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
@kenammi355
Sorry friend, I don’t get it. I asked, “whence did you get that idea and how did you get Nephilim past the flood?” and the only verse you quoted doesn’t say anything about the flood so, that’s rather odd. In fact, the flood’s not even mentioned for the very first time until a full 13 verses later.
@mike_MT_jonez
I gave you the verse. You break it down , what is the “ after that”? . How did they make it past the flood? That’s a mystery to me. Could be dna or some survived some how.
@kenammi355
Friend, please slow down this this is an example of how pop-Nephilologists manage to make a living by selling un-biblical tall-tales to Christians.
I noted, “the only verse you quoted doesn’t say anything about the flood” but rather than affirming that verifiable fact and wondering why quoting that ever occurred to you, you noted, “I gave you the verse” but I asked, “whence did you get that idea and how did you get Nephilim past the flood?” and the only verse you quoted doesn’t say anything about the flood so, “the verse” doesn’t count.
As for, “How did they make it past the flood?” what makes you think that they did? See, that’s the place to start.
As for, “Could be dna or some survived some how” but that implies that God failed: He meant to be rid of them via the flood but couldn’t get the job done, He must have missed the genetic loophole you figured out, and the flood was much of a waste. See what damage fallacious Nephilology does to theology?
As for, “what is the ‘ after that’?: good question!
I just read the text (not just two words):
Gen 6:4 states, “Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.”
The question becomes: when were those days?
Well, Gen 6:1 told us, “When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose.”
The next question becomes: when was afterward?
Since it was after those days then it was simply after, “When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them…”
Thus, the began doing it then and they continued to do it but that’s all pre-flood.
That brought the discussion to and end as no more replies were forthcoming.
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