The following discussion took place when a Facebook page called Charismatic Cheetah posted Sethite view is lame.
I, True Freethinker, noted
Sethite view is a late-comer, based on myth and prejudice, and only creates more problems than it solves (so, more than zero).
Randy Singleton replied
Correct. Not enough people do real research on 1 Enoch.
True Freethinker
Some of us do and know that 1 Enoch is Bible contradicting folklore from centuries, if not millennia, after the Torah: see the book, “In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch.”
Randy Singleton
“Bible contradicting folklore?” — Unquote.
I don’t know how free your thinking is.
The Book of Enoch is older than the Book of Job.
The Ethiopian Church considers it canon equal to the rest of the Bible.
It was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Jesus Christ quoted from Enoch.
Enoch references God’s Word in many places.
Free your mind so that you will be more free thinking.
True Freethinker
I’m disinterested in your childish taunting: I get enough of that trash from Atheists.
Let us review:
“Bible contradicting folklore?” you didn’t address that it contradicts the Bible.
“The Book of Enoch is older than the Book of Job” mere assertion since there’s zero indication that it existed prior to a few centuries BC.
“The Ethiopian Church considers it canon equal to the rest of the Bible” and that canon is unreliable since, for example, it also contains the Life of Adam and Eve which claims that when God created Adam, He commanded the Angels to worship Adam.
“It was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls” irrelevant since a LOT of literature spanning various genre were found therein and that doesn’t make all DDS inspired, infallible, etc.
“Jesus Christ quoted from Enoch” that’s an assertion and also irrelevant since, for example, Paul quoted Greek poets but that doesn’t make Greek poets inspired, infallible, etc.
“Enoch references God’s Word in many places” irrelevant since, for example, so does the Qur’an but that doesn’t make the Qur’an inspired, infallible, etc.
Randy Singleton
You like that word, “irrelevant.” So something is true only if you say so? Okay. I hope this helps.
The Ethiopian Bible is the oldest and most complete Bible on Earth. That Bible includes the Book of Enoch. It also includes Esdras, Baruch, and all three books of Maccabees.
Early Christian scholars believed Enoch wrote and preserved the book aboard Noah’s Ark!
According to the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Book of Enoch is the oldest book. The first apocalyptic literature that was ever written! For 700 years following our Savior’s death, burial, and resurrection, this book was revered and read by ministers to their congregations. Many books, including Enoch, disappeared when the Dark Ages set in, and Bibles were chained to the pulpits.
For centuries, the Book of Enoch was lost — only to be rediscovered in the 18th-century communities of Jews and Christians in Abyssinia, an Ethiopian region. In 1773, a famous English traveler named James Bruce obtained three copies of the book and brought them to Europe.
I believe God kept the Book of Enoch in the “shadows of history” until the last generation. The generation that “would not see death” and would see “the coming of the Son of Man.”
This book helps us to understand the antediluvian world before the Great Flood. (Try to find another book that can do that. 🙂 ). You will find a description of the celestial vehicle that Enoch traveled in. You will see how Enoch described 7,000 years of world history and what would happen in each of the ten divisions of 700 years. And this makes sense since the year of the Great Flood was 4,990 B.C.
Though not in the traditional canon, I trust Enoch’s words completely, especially since there are many biblical references to Enoch and his life.
https://www.openbible.info/topics/enoch
True Freethinker
I’m unsure if you’re myopic on purpose or not but you forgot to mention that the Ethiopian Bible also contains the Life of Adam and Eve which asserts that when God created Adam, God commanded the Angels to worship Adam: you accept that as God inspired, correct?
That and that it contains the Bible contradicting 1 Enoch is enough to conclude that the fact that it’s a unique canon doesn’t make it uniquely accurate but uniquely inaccurate.
Can you name even one single early Christian scholar who, “believed Enoch wrote and preserved the book aboard Noah’s Ark!”?—keeping in mind that it would only prove what someone believed (based on a Bible contradicting folkloric text, of course). There’s literally zero indication of its existence prior a few centuries BC.
As for the rest of your sermonizing, I wrote the book, “In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch” so I’m aware that you’re mixing near accuracy with assertions.
As for, “helps us to understand the antediluvian world before the Great Flood. (Try to find another book that can do that. 🙂 )”: okay, the Bible.
That brought the discussion to and end as no more replies were forthcoming.
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