Such was a claim made during a discussion in the comments section of Pastor Allen Nolan’s YouTube vid Nephilim: Shocking Truth About Giants | Angels And Demons Bible Study | Pastor Allen Nolan Sermon when a certain @JohnnyRedpilled commented
For the nephelim to be hero’s of old after the flood, that means Noah’s family had to have recorded their deeds and passed down the stories of the giants. Doesn’t seem right.
I, @KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker, replied
There were no Nephilim after the flood since God didn’t fail and the flood wasn’t much of a waste.
@JohnnyRedpilled
God didn’t fail. He killed everything on earth with the breath of life in it. But in Numbers, after the flood they are said to see giants. The Nephelim seem to be back. I know they didn’t survive the flood. But that doesn’t stop them from appearing on earth the same way they got here before the flood.
As a matter of fact there are fish gods depicted as having the body of a man and the tail of a fish. Many stories say they came out of the water. Lakes or the ocean. Is it possible some nephelim with gills survived the flood? That doesn’t defeat what God said. Everything on the earth that has the breather of life was killed. Whales breathe but they’re in the water not on earth.
I tend to believe angels mated with humans again after the flood. But maybe only a couple.
@JohnnyRedpilled
I agree God didn’t fail. But in Numbers it says they saw nephelim comparing themselves to grasshoppers next to them. God said he killed all beings with the breath of life on earth. But whales breathe air and they weren’t killed because they were in the sea. There are gods depicted as coming out of the sea some even have fish tails. Some had fish bodies along with human bodies. Could they have survived?
And, could the nephelim appear after the flood the same way they did before? By fallen angels mating with human women?
They sure seem to be there after the flood.
@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker
By, “For the nephelim to be hero’s of old after the flood” do you mean Nephilim themselves or stories about them?
You jumped from the specific ancient Hebrew word “nephelim” to the vague, generic, subjective, and multi-usage modern English word “giants” so it’s hard to follow what you mean.
The key questions are:
What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles?
What’s your usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants”?
Do those two usages agree?
It’s literally impossible that, “the two brothers that founded Rome were nephelim” since Nephilim didn’t make it past the flood in any way, shape, or form.
@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker
Why are you only reading one single sentence in Num 13 and are switching from Hebrew to English words and implying that God failed by missing that they would come right back?
You’re appealing to one single sentence from an “evil report” by 10 unreliable guys whom God rebuked: haven’t you read all of Num chaps 13-14?
“they didn’t survive the flood. But that doesn’t stop them from appearing on earth the same way they got here before the flood” yes, of course it does since the Angels were incarcerated: haven’t you ever read Jude and 2 Peter 2? And, again, God would not have missed that–plus, you had to make up that un-biblical story.
“there are fish gods depicted” where? “Many stories” where? I don’t accept generic assertions.
“Is it possible some nephelim with gills survived the flood?” of course not: where is your regard for God? He told us FIVE times who survived and they’re not on any list.
Again, it’s not that generically, “in Numbers it says” but it says that 10 unreliable guys made up an “evil report” why do you side with guys whom God rebuked rather than with the God who rebuked them?
That’s is THE only reason that you merely assert, “They sure seem to be there after the flood.”
@JohnnyRedpilled
ok so you think Noah’s family recorded the legends of the pre flood nephelim? Or giants or whatever semantic rule you need to follow. I’m talking about the offspring of the “sons of God and the daughters of men”. You think Noah’s family watched God destroy the entire world except one family but they still venerated the nephelim by recording in incredible detail all their stories? Doesn’t seem likely. And, the legends of all the ancient hero’s are country specific. Those countries didn’t exist pre flood.
The Bible says there were nephelim on the earth after the flood. I understand Pastor Nolan doesn’t think that’s the interpretation but many disagree. The Bible says they were there after the flood. People in the Bible say they saw them after the flood.
@JohnnyRedpilled
I believe the Bible when it says God killed everything on earth. And that any nephelim on earth before the flood were all killed. No one survived the flood except Nah and his family. But, the Bible says they were on the earth after the flood. So, that interpretation is wrong or they appeared again the same way they did pre flood. Which isn’t impossible. Fallen angels could have again mated with women. And, it seems they did.
We aren’t adversaries. We are on the same team. As long as you believe Jesus died for our sins and the Bible is the inspired word of God, we are on the same team. We can still debate about the nephelim.
@KenAmmi-Shalom
Fascinatingly, I’ve asked those key questions to hundreds of people who go on and on (and on and on [and on and on]) about “giants” and 99.999999% can’t even reply—and couple that did got it wrong.
I’ve no idea who, “recorded the legends of the pre flood nephelim” and it’s an incoherent non-sequitur that, “recorded” equals, “venerated.”
“the ‘sons of God and the daughters of men’” were Nephilim.
You asserted, on the WORLD WIDE web, that, “The Bible says there were nephelim on the earth after the flood…The Bible says they were there after the flood” so can you please quote and cite where abouts that’s in the Bible?
As for, “People in the Bible say they saw them after the flood” that’s a very different category of phenomena: do you know who those people where and why they merely asserted that and if it was accurate and what happened to them?
Please understand that I’ve familiarized myself with over two millennia worth of relevant data so I don’t accept genetic assertions.
That brought the discussion to an end as no more replies were forthcoming.
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