I’ve said it before and apparently need to keep saying it: when we seek to sharpen iron with iron someone tends to get cut.
I will keep that which follows as generic as possible since the discussion which follows took place via email. Yet, I thought it instructive of how some people on either side(s) of the issues of Angelology and especially Nephilology instantly lose their minds and go full blown ungracefully worldly.
It began when I contacted a certain someone to inform him:
I pray I find you well.
In the name of sharpening iron with iron I thought to inform you that I posted a review of your subject article:
[and provided the URL]
The reply was—are you read for this?!?!?!?!:
I pray that God will strike you and your business down, for preventing His word!! And I’m sure you know that my prayer is effective. Because I do know God.
Here are your pathetic drivers. And why you do this. I will expose you all over the internet. And your anti-God business will go down. Mark my words. From public records:
Ken Ammi is commercially involved in the Nephilim subject, including selling multiple books about Nephilim and giants and running a paid Patreon.
Most importantly, this is not just someone who happens to disagree with your article. Nephilim/giants appears to be one of his major recurring subjects. Goodreads currently lists dozens of works under his name, including What Does the Bible Say About Giants and Nephilim?, Nephilim and Giants as per Pop-Researchers Vols. I and II, The Pastoral Nephilim and Giants, Nephilim and Giants: Believe It or Not!, The Apocryphal Nephilim and Giants, and On the Genesis 6 Affair’s Sons of God: Angels or Not?
One of those books, What Does the Bible Say About Giants and Nephilim?, is an independently published paperback specifically devoted to the subject. It is currently offered commercially by book retailers; one listing I found prices it at $25.99 and describes his position as challenging common ideas about Nephilim, including his argument that the term “giants” does not belong in English Bibles.
And it goes beyond book sales. He has a Patreon under “Ken Ammi.” His current membership page offers a tier called “Books’a’lot!” for $20 per month. His Patreon is extraordinarily focused on Nephilim-related material: reviews, debates, critiques of other Nephilim researchers, discussions of Genesis 6 and Numbers 13:33, giants, Rephaim, Anakim, Enoch, fallen angels, and related subjects. There are hundreds of posts in that vein.
And I found something particularly relevant to you. His Patreon sitemap contains a June 8 post titled “The Biblestudy site answers ‘Who Are the Nephilim?’”, immediately among his Nephilim material. I have not yet established from the indexed page alone that this specifically refers to RealBibleStudy.org, so I would not claim that as fact yet. But given what you’ve described about his repeated comments on your Nephilim article, that’s worth investigating further.
There is also a revealing pattern in his public material. He routinely critiques other people who publish competing interpretations of Nephilim. His Patreon contains posts devoted to Michael Heiser, Steve Quayle, Gary Wayne, L.A. Marzulli, Rob Skiba, pastors, scholars, websites, podcasts and many others. One post is literally titled “Is Nephilim-Giantologist Steve Quayle a Plagiarist?” and another criticizes Gary Wayne as someone “who makes a living by selling” Nephilim material. So challenging other people’s Nephilim interpretations publicly appears to be a substantial part of his own content operation
Firstly, WOW!!!!!!
Secondly, note the goalpost move from my one article reviewing his one article to God literally killing me and ruining my, “business” due to supposedly, “preventing His word!!” and all without a single word about why anyone should think that I pervert His word.
I’m unsure to what he’s referring by, “public records” but sure, “commercially involved in the Nephilim subject, including selling multiple books about Nephilim and giants and running a paid Patreon” in fact, on Oct 5, 2026, I received an email from Patreon stating, “$1.01 was just sent to you from Patreon!” see, there’s no need for God to strike down my Patreon business, there’s nothing three to strike down.
It’s interesting that he can’t discern, “that this specifically refers to RealBibleStudy.org” when the very first word of that article is literally, “BibleStudy.org” see here.
Indeed, “challenging other people’s Nephilim interpretations publicly appears to be a substantial part of his own content operation” so I awaited his turn to sharpen iron rather than just pointing out that there’s a lot of iron out there just waiting to be sharpened.
He followed that email reply with another before I had a chance to reply—never a good sign when someone is so hell-bent on emoting in rapid succession.
That time, he wrote:
Perverting God’s word and profiting from it!! You and your pathetic partners calling themselves ministers but know nothing about God.
Here was my reply:
Wow, you appear to be suffering from psycho-emotional disorders.
Are you a Christian? If so, please don’t tell anyone.
Please turn to Jesus, repent before Jesus, be saved by Jesus–Jesus said, “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.”
He replied:
I’m a Christian by the Bible. And guided by the Holy Spirit.
You’re just a millionaire off of perverting God’s word. And working hard to oppose those who see God’s word clearly. Just to increase your wealth!!!
A millionaire, I’ll have to tell my bank about that!
He then again replied before I could:
I’m not selling anything in case you didn’t notice. It’s the opposite. For the past 5 years I payed [sic.] to advertise my view. To help people who became mislead by the likes of you.
Of course, the latter part was hyperbolic since he’s never written anything about me—just the likes of me, I suppose, as he will later note.
He then again, again replied before I could and it was quite a welcomed email:
Starting over. I apologize for blasting you before fully checking.
I’ve been getting a lot of similar pushbacks on many of my Bible studies. Then I find out that they’re selling books or profiting from the opposite view. So I became callous to this.
After doing a thorough check on your position, although you are selling a lot of books, and actually advertising them all over that feedback link you sent me 😳🤨. You may have some genuineness for trying to find the truth.
In fact I found we agree on about 80% of the Nephilim subject. We only disagree on the fallen angels and mating with humans.
For that I’m retracting my blasting message and ask you if we can start over.
Let’s start by you reading this small section in this article: https://www.realbiblestudy.org/adam-eve-s-children-did-not-marry-each-other
I added Section 7 in it recently. Take a look. If you don’t agree, we may just leave it as a disagreement and move on.
I replied:
I appreciate the apology my new friend.
Just be mindful that you don’t do as David was told, “given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme.”
As for, “selling a lot of books” scripture tells us, “The labourer is worthy of his reward” within the context of work so I don’t mind when people make a living by being an author even if I dislike what they write.
We disagree on the fallen Angels and mating with humans, post-flood Nephilim and their size–to name a few things.
As for “Did Adam & Eve’s Children Marry Each Other?” I find asking subjective questions premised on our modern day experience only results in removing the issue from its context.
Asking “Would you want your son and daughter to marry each other? Would they even be willing to? Even the mere thought of it is sheer horror! How much more our Holy God would not want this for His creation!” is removing the question from its historical and cultural context and you offered no reasons to think they may not have been unwilling to nor that it was even imagined that it was some sort of sheer horror now why our Holy God wouldn’t want that for His, original, creation.
Likewise with “Was it somehow too difficult for God to create more people? Was our all-powerful God limited to creating only one human couple? Would He create others to avoid breaking His own rules and disgraceful incest marriages?”
See, you’re importing rules from millennia after the fact backward in time and are using anachronism to then ask gotcha questions about God.
There’s no indication whatsoever that close family marrying/mating was wrong in any sense—not ethically nor genetically. Indications are that at the point that generics deteriorated enough that it would be a problem, God forbade it but that was millennia after the fall.
The bottom line seems to be “references to other people in the land during Cain’s time” I can only imagine that by “in the land” you’re referring to Nod. As for who was there well, the previous two chapters record many generations so there were plenty of (related) people around, some of which settled in Nod.
Thus, the second he saw that I reviewed his article, he lumped me in to the, “God will strike you and your business down” category since he’s, “been getting a lot of similar pushbacks”—which may be a hint of that he’s quite mistaken, he needs to interact coherently in order to deal with that.
FYI: I was actually mistaken on the, “We disagree on…their size” issue since we both note that we don’t know their size.
He replied:
Earn his keep, yes. But get rich off of it?
My latest short videos fyi, free:
[and provided two links]
I’m at least ten years older than you. With over 30 years of aggressive deep Bible studying. I respect that you come from Jewish descants. I hope that you look closer at my views. They’re not casually my opinion. They’re specific verses that are a little under the surface.
I don’t just follow mainstream views. I dig deeper. This is what God expects of us to truly find Him!
I noted:
I’m unsure how just ignoring 99% of what I wrote in reply to you directing me to your info makes for an iron sharpening iron discussion.
Would you also like me to watch those two vids, comment on them and you have ignore me?
He replied:
They answer your statements and questions.
Ny answer is in there. No need to comment.
I replied:
So you’re not interested in sharpening iron with iron then. Ok, I will just as easily say to read my books, my article, watch my videos since they answer your statements and questions.
Shalom!
He noted:
These are two shorts of 2 mins each. And they answer you precisely, and better than a 2-min email reply. Not asking you to study my library!
I replied:
Indeed, I’m aware that they’re shorts but if I don’t accept them as infallible but have comments, questions, and/or corrections will you just direct me to other videos?
He noted:
No I won’t.
Just reply here with your follow up comments.
Fair enough, he seemed interested in interacting so I replied thusly:
Ok my friend, I just posted two reviews:
[and provided him urls]
He replied:
Ken,
Thank you for taking the time to look at the videos and explain your objections.
I have read your responses. I think at this point our fundamental differences are clear. On Adam and Eve, you begin with the assumption that they were the only humans God created, which then requires the further assumption that initially brothers and sisters married each other. That second assumption follows from, in my view, a misunderstanding of the first point.
Genesis 1 says: “…male and female He created them.” He then blessed them and told them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth” (Genesis 1:27–28). Then, in Genesis 2, the creation of one couple—Adam and Eve—is described in detail.
Likewise, Genesis never tells us that early sibling marriage was acceptable because human genetics had not yet deteriorated. That is an explanation brought to the text, not something Scripture tells us. Leviticus later describes brother-sister marriage as a disgrace; it does not attribute that prohibition to genetic deterioration.
Regarding the Nephilim, we actually agree on several important points: Scripture gives no reliable basis for the enormous-giant mythology, the ten spies’ report cannot establish post-Flood Nephilim, and the Book of Enoch should not be used to override Scripture. Where we fundamentally disagree is the fallen-angel interpretation. I do not find Scripture saying that angels mated with women and produced hybrid offspring. Combining several passages to infer that event is not, in my view, the same as Scripture actually teaching it. You have repeatedly said that Scripture does not need to “spoon-feed” us every detail. But when Scripture is silent, that does not give us license to fill the silence with our preferred assumptions and then treat those assumptions as biblical fact.
I don’t think continuing back and forth will be productive. We have each had ample opportunity to understand the other’s position, and further exchanges are likely to produce diminishing returns.
So I am comfortable leaving it here. We can disagree on these matters and separate in peace. I wish you and your family well.
I replied:
My friend, you’re once again relying on “never tells us” rather than what we’re told.
Yes, “Then, in Genesis 2, the creation of one couple” the same one from Gen 1 since that’s the only game in town, “Adam and Eve—is described in detail” from Gen 1. Thus, no indication of anyone not related to them.
“Genesis never tells us that early sibling marriage was acceptable…” and Genesis never tells us that early sibling marriage was unacceptable so the logical conclusion is that it was since there was nothing wrong with it and it’s the biological conclusion since human genetics had not yet deteriorated.
Yes, “Leviticus” centuries, “later” and I’m unsure how an ancient writer would have depicted, “genetic deterioration” but, again, that’s applying our knowledge to what the problem was.
There’s zero indication that there was anything wrong with such marriages in the early years.
Again, we don’t need, “Scripture saying that angels mated with women” since we’ve enough to go by—Job 38, Psalm 82, Jude, 2 Peter 2, etc. And you acknowledge that by referring to, “Combining several passages to infer” (thus, it’s not, “Scripture is silent”) but such is all we can ask when Scripture shows no interest in, “actually teaching it” just as it does with many, many, many other issues that we combine and infer.
Shalom my friend, appreciate the interaction!
At least we got a lesson on how to remain graceful in the face of someone instantly vomiting imitation brimstone and lukewarm fire.
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