Astrotheology Linguistics

I recently became acquainted with Micah Dank who directed me to one of his interviews wherein he discussed Astrotheology which he described as, “the best way I could describe it is it’s basically like the myths and the legends behind the zodiac. Same way that the Greeks and the Romans, they had the planets, they had their gods, they had their own myths and stories. There are some for the zodiac too which are completely separate.”

In short, it is the concept that the “gods,” as Micah Dank put it, “this is the hidden science that’s always been. This is what’s been given down from the gods. This is the, this is the science that’s been given to us.”

Micah requested some feedback from me and so I wrote the following to him, which touches upon various points he made:

Frankly, I still do not understand how anyone ever looked up at the night sky and saw those characters, those figures, but that may just be my failing.

I think there may be something to some of what you said, particularly since God stated “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years” (Gen 1:14).

As an FYI: the Tanakh does not state “Pride comes before a fall” but rather, “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before the fall” (Proverbs 16:18).

Overall, I think you could strengthen your claims by dropping any and all English related word-play since that discredits itself instantly.

You cannot do such semantics based on English since the words off of which you are playing did not exist back in biblical days and the Hebrew and Greek did not sound like English words.

Thus, no “Son” referring to “Sun” and so no “Sunday” day of worship being “Sun day” being “Sun” worship—and also no crown of thorns being the Sun with Sunrays, etc.

Now, if you want to claim that occultists later, much later (such as when English was in usage), would depict Jesus with certain symbolism then that is another issue but you cannot push that back into times and languages for which such things not only had no meaning but could not have had any such meaning.

Likewise, no “Saturday” sabbath for Jews referring to “Saturn day” referring to Saturn (cube) worship—FYI: shabbat refers to “rest” which saturn derives from “to sow” (an action so not resting).

Moreover, there has never been any such thing as a “Saturday” sabbath since that implies a midnight to midnight cycle but the sabbath is on the 7th day which is Sundown on what we call Friday to Sundown on what we call Saturday—as you well know.

Also, I recommend you drop the positive affirmations of the stuff in “Zeitgeist” about similarities between Pagan gods and Jesus since that stuff has been thoroughly debunked.
For example, Mythra being said to have been born of a “virgin” when he is said to have been born from a rock: it simply does not work.
Well, okay, I suppose the rock was a virgin—at least I would hope so, capiche?—but referring to that as a “virgin birth” is the sort of stuff that utterly discredited Zeitgeist.

And, there is no reliable indication, and certainly no biblical indication, that Jesus was born on Dec 25th. Interestingly, someone came up with an astrotheological interpretation of the first verses of Rev 12 and concluded that Jesus was born on a Sep 11th—which would mean that Dec was not His birth month but rather, the month of His conception.

Shalom!

I am not familiar with astrology related issues—from any perspective—and so mostly focused on the linguistics and what a failure it is to base them on English.

This is much like what Jordan Maxwell, et al., used to claim about the name “Solomon” which is that they claimed was not actually a name but rather, a compound of three different words, all referring to the Sun, from three different language: sol, om, and on.

Yet, that too only works in the transliterated English since there was never an Israelite king named “Solomon,” his name was actually what we would pronounce as “Shlomo.”

Yet, other astrotheologists appeal to other languages as well yet in a manner that is just as arbitrary: either by how a word in one language sounds like a different word in another language and so assuming they are the same or share a root.

Or, if a definition/usage of a word does not fit where they are attempting to stuff it then they will appeal to definition/usage number two or five or what have you.

Or, if they cannot force words/usages to appear similar enough then they will appeal to their root words or to, for example, proto-Hebrew rather than Hebrew itself, etc.

I ended up being interviewed by the same guys who had Micah on in the first place so, be on the lookout for that video.

For previous posts on mine on astrotheology, see the following:

Open letter to David Mathisen & THC’s Greg Carlwood on astrotheology

Ascension discussion by Santos Bonacci

VIDEO: Santos Bonacci discusses ascension

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