While in his cell [whilst incarcerated for embezzlement, fraud and forgery], he claims, he experienced an intense vision.
Von Daniken won’t discuss the nature of the vision…
Erich Von Daniken, ancient astronaut alien fame (or, infamy)—was interviewed by Timothy Ferris; an interview you can find scanned from the original magazine here and yet, one that no one seems to have transcribed as of yet which is why we will provide much of the text within this series.
Are we previously noted Erich Von Daniken may “I really don’t care too much anymore” about the cave in Ecuador but what about the cave in China?:
[Timothy Ferris] You seem to have bad luck when it comes to caves. In your second book Gods from Outer Space, you tell of a cave in China explored in 1938. You say an archaeologist discovered add, thin-boned skeletons there, along with a set of stone disks bearing inscriptions. According to your story, these inscriptions, deciphered in 1962 say spacemen have crash-landed on Earth and been hunted down and killed by Earth people.
When the book appeared, Dr. Kwangchil Chang of Yale University investigated your story. He says that, as a specialist in Asian archaeology, he knows personally every dig conducted in China in or around 1938 but has never heard of this one. He says there has never been a Chinese archaeologist named Chi Pu Tei, the one you say discovered the skeletons, nor a Peking professor named Tsum Um Nui, whom you identify as the translator of the inscriptions. In fact, there are not such names as Tei and Nui in the Chinese languages: Dr. Chang says they sound to him like words made up by a Westerner trying to sound Chinese.
[Erich Von Daniken] When I wrote that story, I didn’t have enough background information; I had only a discussion with a friend in Moscow and two or three publications. Since then an Austrian journalist named Peter Krassa has investigated further. He visited Russia and China several times and he had only one thing in mind—to find out about this story.
He found out definitely that it is true. The stones exist, the skeletons also, but the names and some of the dates are wrong. Krassa has written a book about it…and he has a letter from a Chinese minister proving it is the definite, absolute truth.
This is a messy subject and one that seems to have been first reported by another ancient astronaut alien proponent, Robert Charroux. The Dropa or Dzopa disks (which look like weightlifting plates) have what is said to be an unknown language written in a line which spirals outwardly and then back in towards the center/hole. Two decades after their discovery, some text was translated and told of the crash of alien spacecraft at the mountains of Baian-Kara-Ula 12,000 years ago. While the aliens “came in peace” the local Han tribe did not understand this and so hunted them down.
However, they also interbred with them. This is actually the easy part of the story as the Han are a petite people of circa 4 feet tall and so it is convenient to claim that they mirror the diminutive stature of the typical gray alien.
Bodies are said to have been recovered but their current location is unknown. Likewise, 716 disks are said to have been discovered but their location is also unknown.
Some have noted that Tsum Um Nei is a Japanese name written down in Chinese. In other words, a mixture of Chinese and Japanese.
Some more problems are that there is no such thing as a Beijing Academy for Ancient Studies nor any records of Chu Pu Tei being associated with the academy. The name Chu Pu Tei itself could be aka Qi Futai or Qifu Tai.
It has also been noted that the disks with their holes and spiral text are known to be related to ancient snake cults wherein there are known as Bi discs.
This was noted in relation to Peter Krassa and Hartwig Hausdorf’s discussions with Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans who claims to have been shown a stone disc, by a certain Professor Lolladorff, that appears to have been found in Northern India and that was used during certain religious ceremonies.
At least this is what Krassa and Hausdorf say that Evans said that Lolladorff said.
All of this mystery and missing evidence is nicely wrapped up in tales of a Chinese hush-hush of the whole affair including missing museum curators, etc.
More images here: Bad Archaeology
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