Following are a few comments that flew back and forth within the comment section to John Razimus’ video, “23 Proofs Billy Meier Is A Hoaxer”
To the video, I commented thusly:
One of Myer’s main contracts is an alien whose name is the same as the main fallen angel/demon from the Book of Enoch—Semjase (by any other transliteration): http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/who-semjase-billy-meier-alien-ufo-case
A person who goes by the pseudonym “TheyFly TV” decided that of import was grammar and thus wrote:
Noooooooo, that being was named Semjaza. And this man’s name is M-e-i-e-r.
A rather picante person who goes by “Magic” replied thusly:
You have to understand that the cuckoo Meiertard folks make it up how they need it to obfuscate the truth ;-)))
Semjase is the great whore of Babylon. Her real name was Semiramis who was Nimrods mother, but since Horn is an uneducated dropout who only grew up with sci-fi in an anti-social environment you can’t really blame him for his ignorance.
I replied thusly to TheyFly TV:
Friend, I am afraid that it is not that simple as the aliens’ name is transliterated and thus, has been written as Samjaza, Shemhazai, Shemyaza, Semihazah, Semjase, Semyaza, etc. which is why I specified, “Semjase (by any other transliteration).” This is not like dealing with “John Smith” as her name is very distinctive.
It would be like you referring to the to the famous Swiss dwelling alien contactee Billy M-e-i-e-r and me referring to the to the famous Swiss dwelling alien contactee Billy M-y-e-r and you claiming that we are not referring to the same person.
Magic then wrote the following to me:
You are absolutely correct but you can’t argue Meier minions. They will wind and twist anything.
What is the agenda of the Plejaren? Meier appears to disrespect his relationship with them by attempting to break a secrecy rule. In the article: http://theyfly.com/news2005/jan06/jan06.htm#skeptics, at the section Skeptics Demote Fellow Skeptic, Michael Horn talks of an incident regarding a disappearing letter. Why would the Plejaren go to the trouble of warning one man of impending disaster and then prohibiting him from producing evidence that would cause people to sit up and take heed and would make other predictions more credible? Are the Plejaren playing some sick game where they force Meier to live the life of the Mythological Cassandra? Or perhaps they are making Meier perform as Moses; and did they intend for Horn to be a John the Baptist, the recruitment manager? It can’t be that. That would violate the secrecy rule. Oh, but the Plejaren have forgiven Meier and are still telling him secrets. Either that, or the secrecy rule was dumped. So, that is confusing and contradicting. What do the Plejaren want? What are they trying to achieve?The other thing was, in this article:http://theyfly.com/Israeli_Intrigues.html and after a great many years of communicating with the Plejaren, Meier, who exhibits a good knowledge of Vesuvius AND despite the fact that he has had a similar conversation on the same subject in the previous discussion with Quetzal, has to ask: What is a pyroclastic flow?
Quetzal: 103. The eruption of Vesuvius produced six pyroclastic flows, respectively clouds, which raced at a tremendous speed down the mountain and across the country and which suffocated all life beneath them. 104. In particular, it was the fourth pyroclastic flow that wiped out so many human lives, while the fifth and sixth just did the rest. Billy: 18,976 people. – Monstrosity. Was that the whole population? Quetzal: 105. No, at that time, 25,411 people lived in those areas that were destroyed by the volcanic eruption. Billy: Then there were still about four fifths who lost their lives. Quetzal: 106. That is correct. Billy: What is a pyroclastic flow?
Quetzal: 107. It is a rapidly spreading cloud of hot ash, dust, and air.
To be honest, I read that particular dialogue and felt as if I was reading something by Terry Pratchet.
I replied:
Seems that you hit the nail on the head by asking “Are the Plejaren playing some sick game” since if there is anything going on here except for Meier making it all up, then he is dealing with that which is known as “tricksters” spirits.
As for the want: they seem to want that which virtually all and any “aliens” want: a one world religion with a one world government, see, “The how, what and how of extra-terrestrial alien messages”: http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/how-what-and-how-extra-terrestrial-alien-messages
Magic then wrote:
Absolutely brother ! 😉 can you see how this brainwashed neo-tard TARO is defending his psycho cult??? He is a sad and pathetic case. I don’t wish anyone harm but this neocon is gonna get his share of karma. Peace.
He then wrote the following in addition:
Magic:
There does not yet appear to be compelling evidence for contact with Flying Saucers. But there sure is plenty of evidence that people who claim to be in regular contact with space men are a bunch of delusional nuts. Nor is it their belief in extra-terrestrial visitors what makes them nuts. No, there’s way more than that. Some of these people make wild and extravagant claims that can only proceed from their imagination, at least because they sound like very bad science fiction. And all of this stuff does, from the Black Muslim “Mother Plane” orbiting the earth with Elijah Muhammad in the captain’s chair, to the Raelian belief that aliens mutated apes to produce the first humans, to Heaven’s Gate lemmings believing a spaceship hidden in a comet’s tail was telling them to castrate themselves, to the Aetherius Society, to Unaria, etc.
Well, “Billy” Meier belongs in the same ranks. That’s for damn sure. Nursing classic delusions of grandeur, including the persecution complex, Billy predicts his own eventual assassination: “the author is of course even more endangered because he is the contact man for the extraterrestrial intelligences and very highly developed spiritual entities on exalted planes who transmit to him true spiritual teachings that he disseminates without modification, thereby exposing the lies of the cult religions, which will lead to their slow but certain eradication”. The “cult religions” are the major faiths. If this isn’t classic Freudian “projection,” I don’t know what is. Personally, I don’t think the Islamo-fascist mullahs are going to be wasting a fatwah on this guy any time soon, much less the Catholic Church.
Not surprisingly, The Talmud of Jmmanuel embodies UFO theology, where Jesus (“Jmmanuel”) is the result of Mary’s impregnation by the angel Gabriel who is an alien arriving in a space ship for their date. Jesus is eventually taken aboard the same craft, much like Brian of Nazareth in the Monty Python movie. When he “ascends” he is stepping aboard the spacecraft, though only for a couple of stops down the line, getting off in Damascus. Why bother with Spielbergianism? Simply because Bill wants to combine the usual props of UFO-Jesus-ism (beam-up ascension) with the Asian travels/Srinagar tomb scenario.
Indeed, I wrote about this last issue in Billy Meier, the Talmud of Jmmanuel & the corrupted Bible. Research Professor Emeritus Jim Deardorff (Oregon State University) who was involved in promulgating that text wrote to me and only took issue with the fact that I stated that he was a “shill” for the text.
For more related info also see Billy Meier, Asket, Jmmanuel and time travel.
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