A certain person using the profile name Behind the Fame posted the following on Facebook
The Nephilim Did NOT Die in the Flood | The Hidden Truth of Numbers 13 That Nobody Tells You
The flood killed every living thing on earth, every human being, every animal, everything that breathed. The water rose, covered the mountains, and the world died beneath it. The Nephilim, the [clears throat] giants, the corruption, the reason God sent the flood in the first place, were supposed to be finished.
But 800 years later, 12 spies walked into Canaan and came back shaking. Numbers 13:33. We saw the Nephilim there. Same word, same beings, still in the land. If the flood killed everything, how are they still here? And what were they really? That God would drown an entire planet to stop them. Because the Nephilim were not an accident. They were a weapon.
And when the flood failed to finish them, God launched a war that would last 2,500 years. Let us begin. To understand the Nephilim, you cannot start in Genesis 6. You have to go back one chapter earlier, to a garden, to a curse, to the single most important sentence in the Old Testament, Genesis 3:15. God is speaking directly to the serpent.
Adam and Eve have just fallen. The fruit has been eaten. Sin has entered the world. And in the middle of pronouncing judgment, God makes a promise. Not to the man, not to the woman, but to the enemy. I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring.
He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel. This is the protoeangelium, the first gospel, the first announcement of salvation in the entire Bible. And it contains a detail that Satan would have understood immediately. He shall bruise your head. Not they, he singular. One specific human being born through one specific bloodline would one day destroy the serpent………Details below👇👇 See less
I, Ken Ammi, replied
“The Nephilim Did NOT Die in the Flood” contradicts the Bible five times (Gen 7:7, 23; Heb 11:7; 1 Peter 3:20 & 2 Peter 2:5) since that’s how many times God told us who survived the flood but Nephilim aren’t mentioned.
“…That Nobody Tells You” is clearly hyperbolic since it’s been told for MILLENNIA.
Note that you imply that God failed, missed a loophole, the flood was much of a waste, etc., etc., etc. since you sated “Nephilim, the [clears throat] giants, the corruption, the reason God sent the flood in the first place, were supposed to be finished” but you claim they weren’t.
Since biblically contextually “Nephilim, the [clears throat] giants” would mean “Nephilim, the [clears throat] Nephilim”: what’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles? What’s your usage? Do those two usages agree?
You misrepresented the one and only text (single sentence, actually) to which you can appeal since it wasn’t, “12 spies walked into Canaan and came back shaking”: one of the main points of Num chaps 13-14 is that 2 of them, Caleb and Joshua, weren’t shaken at all.
But you made it out to seem as if “Numbers 13:33. We saw the Nephilim there” is something they said but that’s not the case, that was the 10 who were unfaithful, disloyal, unreliable, contradictory, embellishers whom God rebuked: why do you actually believe them?
You asserted “Same word, same beings, still in the land” but just because they used a word and claimed to see them doesn’t mean that was the case. So, back up and start again: since it wasn’t “God sent the flood in the first place, were supposed to be finished” rather, it’s that God sent the flood in the first place to finish them and He didn’t fail. You actually wrote “God would drown an entire planet to stop them” but then imply that He couldn’t get the job done.
So “If the flood killed everything, how are they still here?”: they weren’t.
Anyone appealing to Num 13:33 needs to mention that they’re relying on:
1. One single unreliable sentence
2. From strictly non-LXX versions (since that version’s version of that verse doesn’t even mention Anakim)
3. Of an unreliable “evil report”
4. By 10 unreliable guys
5. Whom God rebuked—to death
6. Who made five mere assertions unbacked by even one single other verse in the whole Bible
7. Who contradicted Moses, Cable, Joshua, God, and the rest of the whole entire Bible
8. Then post-flood Nephilologists have to invent un-biblical fantasy tall-tales about how Nephilim got past the flood, past God.
I could go on but see my post “Chapter sample: On the Post Flood Nephilim Proposal”—which I’m currently updating.
You claim “the flood failed to finish them” so “God launched a war” to get mere humans do what He couldn’t do.
That brought the discussion to an end as no more replies were forthcoming. Seems like “That Nobody Tells You” and when they do and you debunk them, they have nothing to say.
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