The Lost World Museum Facebook page posted the question, “When Genesis states ‘also after that’ does that mean there were large people after the Flood?” consisting exclusively of this image:
A certain Danny Calia replied
Sons of Anak, the Naphtalim 18 feet tall, they set the stones at Easter Island and Stonehenge
Jose Antonio Lassalle replied
Danny Calia 18 feet tall?? That’s the height of a giraffe!! A human body of that size is physically impossible. As of giants setting Stonehenge and Easter Island statues, it’s in your imagination.
I, True Freethinker, replied
Danny Calia “Naphtalim” isn’t a word. The only indication of “Sons of Anak, the” Nephilim” is one single unreliable non-LXX sentence from one single “evil report” (Num 13:33) by a mere 10 unreliable guys whom God rebuked: why do you side with them rather than with the God who rebuked them? And, “18 feet tall” is as much of fantasy tall-tale as, “they set the stones at Easter Island and Stonehenge.”
Danny Calia
True Freethinker
well, it’s just your opinion, I believe God not men
True Freethinker
Danny Calia
Why assume that if it’s my opinion then it must be wrong?
Of course, I don’t want my opinions to contradict God’s so, let’s review:
“‘Naphtalim’ isn’t a word”
That’s a simple fact, but if I’m wrong simply direct me to a source which proves that it’s a word.
“The only indication of ‘Sons of Anak, the’ Nephilim’ is one single unreliable non-LXX sentence from one single ‘evil report’ (Num 13:33) by a mere 10 unreliable guys whom God rebuked”
If you have another source then please provide it.
“why do you side with them rather than with the God who rebuked them?”
That question still stands.
“And, ‘18 feet tall’ is as much of fantasy tall-tale as, ‘they set the stones at Easter Island and Stonehenge’”
It’s very simple, just provide data that supports your assertions.
Danny Calia
True Freethinker
well, you’re quick to point out the simple misspelling of a word, Goliath was 12 ft tall, the sons of Anak were called giants, of course it doesn’t say they were 18 feet tall but to be a giant I’m estimating about 18 feet. If you deny the report in Numbers then you obviously won’t accept other references from the Bible. My opinion about the origins of Stonehenge and Easter Island is as good as stating aliens built them or put them there.
True Freethinker
Friend, when you merely assert “Goliath was 12 ft tall” are you being purposefully myopic or are you unaware of the relevant facts?
The Masoretic text has Goliath at just shy of 10 ft. Yet, the earlier LXX and the earlier Dead Sea Scrolls and the earlier Flavius Josephus all have him at just shy of 7 ft. (compared to the average Israelite male who was 5.0-5.3 ft. in those days) so that’s the preponderance of the earliest data.
Are you aware of the relevant linguistics fact when you assert “sons of Anak were called giants”?
1) they never are.
2) biblically contextually “sons of Anak were called giants” would mean “sons of Anak were called Rephaim” are you aware of that?
What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles? What’s your usage? Do those two usages agree?
Those are important questions to answer since when you say “to be a giant I’m estimating about 18 feet” that’s just something you invented, it’s 100% subjective and you can’t demand that the ancient Hebrew writers adhere to your modern day demands.
It’s literally incoherent to assert “If you deny the report in Numbers then you obviously won’t accept other references from the Bible”:
1) there isn’t “the report” in Num, there’s two: I accept the original one which gives every indication of being accurate and I reject the second which give every indication of being inaccurate.
2) now you have to literally invent un-biblical fantasy tall-tales about how Nephilim got past the flood, past the God who failed.
3) if you ever again attempt to build a case on Num 13:33 you needed to mention that you’re relying on:
1. One single unreliable sentence
2. From strictly non-LXX versions (since that version’s version of that verse doesn’t even mention Anakim)
3. Of an unreliable “evil report”
4. By 10 unreliable guys
5. Whom God rebuked—to death
6. Who made five mere assertions unbacked by even one single other verse in the whole Bible
7. Who contradicted Moses, Cable, Joshua, God, and the rest of the whole entire Bible
I could go on but see my post Chapter sample: On the Post Flood Nephilim Proposal.
Well, that ended it since no more interaction was forthcoming.
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