The Coast To Coast A.M. website has Zimmerman’s bio as, “an unaffiliated scholar with a B. A. in history from Purdue University” (I cannot seem to find a bio on his website nor his books).
Due to the title of the book, The Encyclopedia of Ancient Giants in North America, some key questions are: what is the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word, “giants” in English Bibles? What is Fritz Zimmerman’s usage? Do those two usages agree?
Fascinatingly, I have asked those key questions to literally hundreds of people who go on and on (and on and on [and on and on]) about, “giants” and 99% cannot even reply.
In fact, I have asked him those questions various times via his Facebook posts and have yet to receive any reply besides him threatening to block me and making childish taunts such as calling me names. My experience (and those of others that I see commenting) is that Zimmerman is literally incapable of replying to even 101 level questions.
It is clear that he has latched on to the term Nephilim as a catch-all click bait term which he merely slaps onto any post. In fact, he has a book series titled The Nephilim Chronicles. Thus, I have asked him about how he knows that any given bone or skeleton or reports of a skeleton of bone have anything to do with Nephilim but he is incapable of backing his mere assertions.
Yet, even though the term giant(s) appears in the book 1,195 times, we are never told his usage. He employs the term enormous 57 times, huge 91 times, tall 219 times, massive 46 times, etc. the issue with which is that those terms are just as vague, generic, subjective, and multi-usage as giants.
Writing in such a vaguely generically subjectively multi-usage manner has two affects: 1) it forces the reader to have to attempt to discern the usage at any given usage and 2) it allows the author to make assertions and correlate things that my not go together due to employing a usus loquendi: referring to the usage of terms which may differ from technical meanings/definitions—the term giants is a flaccid designator.
Not surprisingly, Fritz Zimmerman notes upfront that he has been, “pouring through over 10,000 historical documents and newspaper archives.” I filled a chapter of my book Nephilim and Giants: Believe It or Not!: Ancient and Neo-Theo-Sci-Fi Tall Tales with such newspaper accounts and they are typically exactly what newspaper accounts are, which are reports: so and so claims to have found thus and such on this day yet, without any follow-up. I also do not go by that if it is in the news then, by golly, it must be true.
This book features a forward by L.A. Marzulli which equals a gigantic red flag since he is a pop-Nephilologists and thus, makes a living by selling un-biblical tall-tales to Christians—see my book Nephilim and Giants as per Pop-Researchers: A Comprehensive Consideration of the claims of I.D.E. Thomas, Chuck Missler, Dante Fortson, Derek Gilbert, Brian Godawa, Patrick Heron, Thomas Horn, Ken Johnson, L.A. Marzulli, Josh Peck, CK Quarterman, Steve Quayle, Rob Skiba, Gary Wayne, Jim Wilhelmsen, et al.
Thus, it is not surprising that Zimmerman teamed up with him.
Let us begin the review by considering Marzulli’s statements which he begins by noting that
Zimmerman’s book Nephilim Chronlicles, Fallen Angels in the Ohio Valley, “changed my life. That book is a must read for anyone who is interested in the subject of the giants of the Bible-thin [sic.] Goliath here—as well as the Native American oral tradition which hails back to the time well before Columbus which speaks of red-haired, six fingered, giants.”
Indeed, we must ask what is Marzulli’s usage. Well, it is clear that their usage is something vaguely generic about subjectively unusual height of some unknown level above the parochial average (and yes, that is how useless the common parlance usage of that modern English word is).
So, what of whether that usage agrees with the English Bibles’ usage: the answer is no. That is because the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word giants in English Bibles is that it merely renders (does not even translate) Nephilim in 2 verses or Repha/im in 98% of all others and so never even hints at anything to do with any sort of height whatsoever.
For details, see my linguistics book Bible Encyclopedias and Dictionaries on Angels, Demons, Nephilim, and Giants: From 1851 to 2010.
Thus, biblically contextually, “giants of the Bible…Goliath” would mean, “Rephaim of the Bible…Goliath” since that is merely identifying his tribal affiliation.
As for, “Native American oral tradition” indeed, hundreds of years of oral tradition from, “well before Columbus, about, “red-haired, six fingered, giants.” It is fairly evident that Natives were relating cultural memories of interacting with Vikings: red-haired, (subjectively) giant and White—unsure whence he got the six fingers assertion: then again, it is too generic to merely refer to Native American oral tradition since Native American is a term that is all-encompassing and refers to many, many tribes/nations. For details, see my post Lovelock Cave Giants: lost or found?
Marzulli also emphasizes, “antiquated newspapers” and plays into the click-bait talking-point with, “Zimmerman gets out in the field and explores the vestiges of what he and I both believe are a remnant of the Nephilim tribes that fled the conquest of Canaan, by the
Israelites, thousands of years ago.”
That is literally impossible since Nephilim were never in Canaan since there was no such place not Israelites until centuries after the last Nephilim drowned in the flood. Unless, that is, God failed, missed a loophole, the flood was much of a waste, etc., etc., etc.
Yet, Marzulli made up (or parroted) an un-biblical fantasy tall-tale about a second incursion of fallen Angels who repeated that which I term the Gen 6 affair post-flood—which means that God failed since He missed that loophole that Marzulli was clever enough to figure out so that the flood was much of a waste, etc., etc., etc.
It is also literally impossible correlate (their mis-usage of) giants to Nephilim since the dirty little secret is that since we have no reliable physical description of Nephilim then their height is a non-issue and that alone debunks 99% of un-biblical Nephilology—the modern branch of which is just un-biblical neo-theo sci-fi tall-tales.
Jude and 2 Peter 2 combined refer to a sin of Angels, after which they were incarcerated. Now, they do not tell us when but since the flood was when God was cleaning house, as it were, then it would have been during the flood or before it. Moreover, there is only a one-time fall/sin of Angels in the Bible.
Post-flood-Nephilologists always begin by throwing God and His Word under the bus and post-flood Nephilology damages theology proper. Now, Marzulli is clearly appealing to the only place he could, Num 13:33 and yet, anyone who does so (as 100% of pop-Nephilologists do) must mention that they are relying on:
- One single unreliable sentence
- From strictly non-LXX versions (since that version’s version of that verse doesn’t even mention Anakim)
- Of an unreliable “evil report”
- By 10 unreliable guys
- Whom God rebuked—to death
- Who made five mere assertions unbacked by even one single other verse in the whole Bible
- Who contradicted Moses, Cable, Joshua, God, and the rest of the whole entire Bible
- And now they need to invent un-biblical tall-tales about how Nephilim got past the flood (as Marzulli did), any of which will imply that God failed, must have missed the loophole you figured out, the flood was much of a waste, etc., etc., etc.
I could go on but see my post Chapter sample: On the Post Flood Nephilim Proposal.
Let us now review that which is within my context which is Fritz Zimmerman’s specific claims about Nephilim.
After many, many, many references to Nephilim which are really just instances of Zimmerman referencing his own Nephilim Chronicles books, we come to:
Clark County
Washington Post, October 27, 1912
50 Nephilim Giants Tombs Discovered in Jeffersonville, Indiana
Believed to be Kings Tombs
St. Louis Globe-Democrat
Indeed, back in 1912 the Washington Post/St. Louis Globe-Democrat reported on, “Nephilim” by name. Actually not, that was just a case of Zimmerman slapping that term into the headline thus, misrepresenting it. And he is not even a consistent manipulative click-baiter since on his own website he had that very same headline as actually reading, “50 Giants Tombs Discovered by Indiana Archaeologists Found on the Banks of the Ohio River – Believed to be Kings Graveyard” sans Nephilim.
The key portion of the 1912 report was:
…men, not one of whom was less than six and one half feet high…
…when the first white settlers arrived at Louisville they found piles of human skeletons on Corn Island and some are found there now. To the early settlers it appeared that there had been a great battle fought and that one tribe had been entirely wiped out. All of the skeletons were those of people of medium stature, save one, that of a man, and he must have been seven feet high.
Valentine Kelly, who was a Spiritualist, told the writer that he was once standing in a shed near the royal tombs when a gigantic white man with yellow hair peered in at the window…Kelly was a firm believer in ghost and hobgoblins…He permitted Prof. Green and the writer to open two of the graves on his farm, but stopped further excavating…
…he said…The high water washed away some of them…
One of the best-known archaeologists of Indiana, Dr. W. F. Work, of Charlestown, Ind., found seven similar stone tombs 13 miles from the scene, and he noticed that the left temple of each dead man was crushed in and that the bones were those of men of gigantic stature…
So, for all of the aggrandizement about giants we get, “not…less than six and one half feet…must have been seven feet high” and to whatever, “medium stature” refers subjective to the parochial average.
We also get what neo-common parlance would designate as a trust me bruh! story from, “a Spiritualist…firm believer in ghost and hobgoblins” who claimed to have seen whatever, “gigantic” means and a stalling of opening graves, stopping of further excavating, an assertion about washing away.
Lastly, another tall-tale about whatever, “gigantic stature” meant.
And that is what it is like to read dozens, hundreds, of such reports: and since they are not exciting enough, well then you can impress by employing the term giant and especially Nephilim.
After dozens more references to his books, we come to:
Greenlee County
The Courier Gazette, (McKinney, Texas) November 10, 1923
Archaeologists Excavate Bones of Mastodon, Relics and Giant Human Nephilim
The key point of which is, “what apparently was a race of enormous Nephilim men…giant human skeletons…the mastodon is being unearthed and when the skeleton
finally is pieced together, it is expected to stand at least 12 feet high…The Nephilim skeletons…average eight feet…the heads are unusually large.”
Well, we cannot seem to know where the mastodon ends and the apparently was a race of enormous Nephilim men begins. So, we have to go by whatever, “enormous…giant…large” mean with, “unusually” referring to the subjective average although we did get, “average eight feet.” And yet, again, we cannot viably correlate that to Nephilim since we have no reliable physical description of them—and there is also the issue of what they were doing in pre-flood (what became) North America.
Well, perhaps someday I will get my hands on his Nephilim Chronicles to see what he has to say about them superficially since he will not reply on Facebook and that is all there is in the book undergoing consideration.
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