William Whitten styles himself a, “Autodidact Sociopolitical Journalist,” he posted the following rant on the Quora site (I will do us the favor of not including the many articles to which he linked and images with which he peppered the post)—the important part isn’t his rant, it’s the stalled discussion which followed:
At Satan’s Command
“THE SERPENT WAS FORCED TO CRAWL ON THE GROUND BUT WHEN COMBINED WITH HUMAN DNA, IT BECOMES LIKE A DRAGON. IT NOW HAS HANDS & FEET. WE DO ITS BIDDING. WE DO ITS VARIOUS FUNCTIONS”
…Juan O Savin tells California gubernatorial candidate, Lewis Herms that the “Big Club” we’re at war with is ultimately the 13 Bloodline Families.
Their symbology is everywhere, for example, the Roman mace; the banded-together sticks called the Mace of the Republic, that symbolizes the legislative authority of the House of Representatives. It’s 13 sticks that are bound together and Juan says that the bindings arguably represent the counter-rotating DNA strands binding the 13 Families together.
Juan then asks what “bloodline” is being referred to when we speak of the 13 Bloodline Families? He answers that it refers to when Eve was beguiled by the Serpent in the Garden of Eden and how she conceived her son Cain with the Devil.
Juan says the 13 Bloodline Family cultists believe that they are the descendants of Cain. This is according to Gnostic and other mystical beliefs, such as those relating to the Zohar.
He says, “It doesn’t matter what you believe, it’s what they believe…belief is the driver of action. What you believe determines how you act, how you think, what you do with your time, the way you apply yourself.”
He says the Bible talks about those who worshiped Baal and Moloch and how in ancient times, child sacrifice was widely practiced in the region around Mount Hermon, in what is today Lebanon and Syria. He says this cult is very much alive and it is global – or shall we say Globalist – albeit, in a sub rosa fashion.
He says: Hillary wanted to speak in that Archway of Baal. Well, wait a second. Where did it come from? The Archway of Baal was at the base of Mount Hermon. Mount Hermon is the location that has the highest [proposed]…UN Heritage site in the world…
And it’s this little temple area at the top of Mount Hermon. Mount Hermon is the place where, in the Sumerian history and Babylonian history, the 200 “aliens”, if you will, 200 “gods” fell to Earth. And that’s where they landed…
And so whatever way they’ve done it, these monsters have created a history that has a certain illusion to it, a certain belief system to it…
They’re worshiping their god by sacrificing human children and that, somehow gets them in favor with their god.
Well, you know, for a god that wants to take over the planet, getting rid of the humans and having the humans do it, themselves somehow makes a certain type of sense.
And by the way, in all of these things, the false flags, the various scenarios that we find being played out around the world, one common theme that your listeners have to be super, super sensitive to:
They believe in their gods. They believe in a god beyond their Lucifer god, and they believe that they avoid judgment by getting you to do the dirty deed. So if you sacrifice your child, the bad karma, if you will, is on you, not them…
Juan says that the dragon symbolizes the melding of the Serpent with human DNA and he suggests that the dragon represents the hybrid Bloodline families who are the Devil’s agents on the Earthly plane.
The Serpent was forced to crawl on the ground, but when combined with human DNA, it becomes like a dragon. It now has hands and feet. We do its will. We do its various functions.
He continues: What’s really running the planet at various levels are these 13 Bloodline Cain Families, the Children of Cain, the Cains of the Earth; Kings-Cains, ruling over us; the right to rule by blood.
And they believe that they are more than human, because their father, Satan, Lucifer, the Devil is who conceived Cain, via Eve.
Author and researcher, Gary Wayne was recently on Shaun Attwood’s podcast for an in-depth conversation on Freemasonry, its history, symbols and hidden power structures. He essentially confirmed what Juan O Savin is saying here; that in the occult creed of Freemasonry and of the British aristocracy, they believe they are the living descendants of the Fallen Angels.
Mount Hermon has been a holy site for millennia. It is mentioned 15 times in the Bible and some scholars place it as the site of the Transfiguration of Christ.
According to Chapter 6 of the Book of Enoch, Mount Hermon is the place where 200 of the Watcher class of Fallen Angels swore an oath to take wives among the daughters of man.
A stele discovered at the summit of Mount Hermon may be the only known ancient artifact that references this fateful event and it is currently stored in a basement at the British Museum.
The stele was found in 1869 by British archeologist Charles Warren in front of the ruins of a sacred building called Qasr Antar, considered to be the highest-altitude temple of the ancient world.
Qasr Antar is surrounded by 30 Roman religious structures and it would make the perfect final setting for an Indiana Jones movie. Warren described the temple as a rectangular building, sitting on an oval, stone plateau without a roof.
Warren removed the inscribed limestone stele from the northwest of the oval, broke it into two pieces and carried it down the mountain and back to London. Below is one of the only public photographs of the stele…
The Greek inscription was translated by Harvard scholar George Nickelsburg to read: “According to the command of the greatest a(nd) Holy God, those who take an oath (proceed) from here.”
Nickelsburg connected the inscription with the oath sworn by the Fallen Angels led by Semjaza to mate with the daughters of man in Enoch 6:2-7 and in Genesis 6:2-4 (minus the oath).
The British Museum dates the inscription to the 4th or 5th century however, Biblical scholar, Douglas Hamp is persuaded that it might have been written 700-1,200 years earlier and that, “Based on the long pagan history of the locale, it is likely that the pagan scribes chiseled the inscription with a phrase that had passed down orally for millennia.”
Hamp discovered discrepancies and omissions in the translations of this inscription made by Warren, Nickelsburg and the British Museum, which he says all give the impression that it was God who commanded the angels to create the race of Nephilim but Hamp argues, “The one who sent those angels was Satan,” as indicated by Enoch 1:3-9, which describes God’s wrath over the sins of the ungodly – and of the Watchers, in particular – for breeding with humans.
The inscription uses the epithet, Batios, which is not Greek but a Semitic name for “bull” and for Baal, which Hamp exhaustively demonstrates is cognate with Bashan or “snake-dragon” and synonymous with Zeus, Jupiter, Heilel, Enlil and Lucifer/Satan. (They/Them: Satan goes by a thousand names).
Thus Hamp’s translation of the stele’s inscription is: “According to the command of the great bull-god Satan, the great snake-dragon of Bashan, that those swearing an oath in this place go forth.”
Hamp concludes [sic.]: God was paying attention to the corruption and violence Satan had caused on the Earth by commanding the sons of God to take women and procreate the Nephilim. “God looked upon the earth, and indeed it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth” (Gen 6:12). God made it clear that all flesh everywhere on the entire planet would die. “I Myself am bringing floodwaters on the earth, to destroy from under heaven all flesh in which is the breath of life; everything that is on the earth shall die” (Gen 6:17).
Satan’s scheme failed. Upon the death of the host body, the spirit inside the Nephilim was separated and the fallen angel became disembodied once again. Enoch 15:8–16:1 describes how they became known as evil spirits on the Earth:
“Now the giants, who have been born of spirit and of flesh, shall be called upon earth evil spirits, and on earth shall be their habitation. Evil spirits shall proceed from their flesh because they were created from above; from the holy Watchers was their beginning and primary foundation. Evil spirits shall they be upon earth, and the spirits of the wicked shall they be called. The habitation of the spirits of heaven shall be in heaven; but upon earth shall be the habitation of terrestrial spirits, who are born on earth.
“The Flood ended Satan’s worldwide Nephilim plan, but it would not end his plan for eternal world-domination. We will see that he would modify his plan with an ancient rebel named Nimrod.”
Robert Maxwell Saw Himself as the Reincarnation of Jacob Frank
ZAGAMI SAYS INTERNAL DOCUMENTS ABOUT SABBATEAN FRANKISM ARE RARE, DUE TO ITS SECRECY BUT HE CITES HILLEL LEVINE’S 1984 ‘THE KRONIKA: ON JACOB FRANK AND THE FRANKIST MOVEMENT’ AS A GOOD SOURCE
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I, Ken Ammi, replied:
Your comment is an example of one of the reasons that paranoid conspiracy theorists give Christianity a bad name.
Where did you get the idea that “At Satan’s Command ‘THE SERPENT WAS FORCED TO CRAWL ON THE GROUND BUT WHEN COMBINED WITH HUMAN DNA, IT BECOMES LIKE A DRAGON. IT NOW HAS HANDS & FEET. WE DO ITS BIDDING. WE DO ITS VARIOUS FUNCTIONS”?
How does “13 Bloodline Families” pertain to “when Eve was beguiled by the Serpent”?
Also, “how she conceived her son Cain with the Devil” went without telling us the “how”? Well, Gen 4:1 told us the how Cain came into being, “Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain.” So, “Satan, Lucifer, the Devil is who conceived Cain, via Eve” is 100% false.
Ok so it’s a case of, “cultists believe” but that doesn’t mean they’re correct?
“Mount Hermon is the place where, in the Sumerian history and Babylonian history, the 200…” according to 1 Enoch which is Bible contradicting folklore from centuries, if not millennia, after the Torah, see my book In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch.
Gary Wayne, who debated me, makes a living by selling un-biblical tall-tales to Christians.
There are no “living descendants of the Fallen Angels” since their descendants didn’t make it past the flood.
I’m an acquaintance of Douglas Hamp but his Nephilology is off although he’s probably the best of those who’s Nephilology is off.
That demons are the spirits of dead Nephilim is just folklore from centuries, if not millennia, after the Torah. For a biblical view, please see my article Demons Ex Machina: What are Demons?
William Whitten replied
Me. [sic.] Ammi,
You will have to discuss this with Gary Wayne, I am merely reporting here. I have no opinion on the veracity of the claims.
Thank you for the link to your article.
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Ken Ammi
Indeed and thanks in turn.
Oh my, I don’t consider conspiracy theorists to be paranoid in general: some are, some aren’t.
This is because, for example, you favorably appeal to people, like Wayne, who make a living by selling un-biblical tall-tales to Christians and so have to keep churning out the conspiracy theories and make them wilder and wilder sci-fi tall-tales just to keep the hype going.
If you “have no opinion on the veracity of the claims” then at least provide the opposite, critical and truthful side, such as that demons are the spirits of dead Nephilim is just folklore from centuries, if not millennia, after the Torah rather than just offering one single side as if that’s all there is to say on the matter.
William Whitten
Well Mr. Ammi,
As a Christian I do not put any weight to the Torah aka Old Testiment [sic.] whatsoever. A new covenant was given humankind with the resurrection of Jesus Christ. This means much of the mythology contained in the ancient manuscripts are questioned for their veracity with appeals to rationality. “An eye for an eye” leaves the world blinded to all Truth. “Offer the other cheek” (Matthew 5:39) with the joy of forgiveness is the new and proper outlook on life and metaphysics.
[1≡∞] Paradox divides the whole; there is only one which cannot be divided. All is One.
Ken Ammi
Mr. Whitten
I’m flummoxed as how any Christian in the history of Christianity can, “not put any weight to the Torah aka Old Testiment whatsoever.”
Have you read the New Testament?
Are you aware that in not putting weight on it you discredited every and all claims to Jesus’ status as LORD, savior and Messiah?
Are you unfamiliar with that Jesus and the Apostles appealed to that which you not put any weight in to premise and evidence their claims?
“A new covenant was given humankind with the resurrection of Jesus Christ” premised on fulfilling what you put no weight on.
“An eye for an eye” is stated within case laws and ensures equal recompense for losses incurred—read the Bible, not Ghandi.
“Offer the other cheek” refers to insults: let people insult you, don’t think highly of yourself.
Unsure what’s mythical about those things: are you using the term mythology in the academic manner or the common parlance manner?
William Whitten
““Offer the other cheek” refers to insults: let people insult you, don’t think highly of yourself.”~Ken Ammi
One must accept an insult as valid to feel harmed by it. No one has ever insulted me, all who have attempted to merely insulted themselves.
Yes I have read the Bible and found the character called YHWH in Deuteronomy 28:15-67 to be described as an insane demonic entity lusting for the blood of all who rejected ‘him’.
This must be interpreted as the delusions of those who invented these tales, as stone age shamans; not the Holy Father of our Savior Jesus Christ.
Ken Ammi
He whom you describe as, “an insane demonic entity lusting for the blood of all who rejected ‘him’…delusions…invented these tales” wasn’t, “the Holy Father of our Savior Jesus Christ” indeed, good point, rather, it was Jesus.
William Whitten
Ammi,
Your opinions are preposterous. You have the right to your own opinions. But I will not allow anymore of this bull[****] here on my space.
Ken Ammi
Whitten,
Please mind your manners.
You’re literally denying some of Jesus’ self-identifying statements.
You seem to be a some sort of Marcionite polytheist.
And when you realized you’re literally incapable of discussing a topic that you, yourself, brought up, you made the WWW an even filthier place than it already is and ran away to your safe-space.
Please repent.
“Autodidact,” I’m 100% to believe that, “Journalist” how does a journalist deal with issues like this?
William Whitten
YHWH demanded total destruction: Deuteronomy 20:16-17 commands the Israelites to “not leave alive anything that breathes” within the cities of the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites.
An you propose it is Jesus who demanded this bloody slaughter?!?!?
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Ken Ammi
Whitten,
Please mind your manners.
You’re literally denying some of Jesus’ self-identifying statements.
You seem to be a some sort of Marcionite polytheist.
And when you realized you’re literally incapable of discussing a topic that you, yourself, brought up, you made the WWW an even filthier place than it already is and ran away to your safe-space.
Please repent.
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William Whitten
Look Ammi,
I told you that I would allow no more of your Zionist bull[****] on this thread. Thus I am deleting your last comment and blocking you from my feed.
Ta ta twatmuffen !!!
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Well, that ended the discussion since William Whitten is one of so many people on Quora who realize they’re literally incapable of defending their mere assertions so they delete comments and opt for, “Adding comments disabled” and I see that he did the same with all of his posts so he clustered himself away.
My most recent reply was going to be what follows but he did as I noted, he ran away to hide—and he styles himself a, “Journalist”:
Please mind your manners.
I see that when you’re literally incapable of defending your mere assertions you rely on censorship.
BTW: I keep a copy of this whole discussion on a Word doc, I update it every time either of us replies so I’ll be able to post the whole thing on my website.
You appear to be experiencing some sort of cognitive issues since you ranted contra “Zionist bull…” even though I’ve not said one single word about any such thing.
How is noting, “Please mind your manners” “Zionist bull…”?
How is noting, “You’re literally denying some of Jesus’ self-identifying statements” “Zionist bull…”?
How is, “You seem to be a some sort of Marcionite polytheist” “Zionist bull…”?
How is, “And when you realized you’re literally incapable of discussing a topic that you, yourself, brought up, you made the WWW an even filthier place than it already is and ran away to your safe-space” “Zionist bull…”?
Please repent.
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