Pop-Nephilologist Josh Peck posted a video on his YouTube channel Daily Renegade which is he being interviewed by a certain Pastor Gary Mckibben. The subject matter is Peck’s new book The Return of the Watchers: Ancient Nephilim Technology Revealed.
FYI: I will be reviewing in general what’s stated rather than doing through the very time consuming work of ironing out who said what (since the transcript doesn’t break that down for us).
The reference to Watchers was indicative to me of him taking a pop-Nephilology tactic (pop-Nephilologists sell un-biblical tall-tales to Christians for a living) since it implies he’s relying on 1 Enoch—which is Bible contradicting folklore from centuries, if not millennia, after the Torah, see my book In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch—since Watchers is a Second Temple Era aka for Malakim/Angels.
And right on schedule, within two minutes reference is made to, “the technology of the Watchers” within the context of, “the extra biblical Book of Enoch which” wer’re told, “helps fill in some of the gaps that we get in Genesis.”
Well, I could write a book today which is said to “fill in some gaps” but the issue is of what degree of reliability are those gap fillers. There’s no indication that a folkloric text from that long after Gen offers us any actually reliable historically accurate data—in fact, it has Nephilim as being MILES tall which is great folklore but poor reality.
Reference is made the what I term the Gen 6 affair within the context of the Angel view and it’s noted, “the consequence of that procreation is the giants or in the Hebrew the Nephilim.” Keep that in mind: the usage of giants within this discussion is that it mere renders (doesn’t even translate) the word Nephilim.
We’re then told, “that’s basically the reason for the flood because these things spread all over and basically just consume the entire world.”
We’re told that 1 Enoch, “was found among the Dead Sea Scrolls and we know that in the time of Jesus books like the book of Enoch, the book of Jubilees, things like that, were highly regarded because they’re actually quoted in the Bible.”
Well, the DSS are only partially scripture and a lot of it are things like Community Rules, apocalyptic speculations, etc. Paul quoted Greek poets so being quoted in the Bible only accredits what’s quoted, not full texts nor authors, etc.
Just in case, note that the original, traditional, and majority view among the earliest Jewish and Christians commentators, starting in BC days, was the Angel view as I proved in my book On the Genesis 6 Affair’s Sons of God: Angels or Not?: A Survey of Early Jewish and Christian Commentaries Including Notes on Giants and the Nephilim.
What 1 Enoch does is to give un-biblical names to various Watchers and specify which taught humanity what forbidden knowledge/technology. For example: metallurgy, enchantments, astrology, and even cosmetics as in makeup.
We’re told that as per 1 Enoch, “there was a civil war among the Nephilim tribes. Whoever didn’t die in that got killed in the flood. So the flood wiped everything out, wiped the slate clean.”
Since there’s no way to get a, “Return of Ancient Nephilim…Ancient Nephilim Technology” from the Bible, they are forced to appeal to anything, written by anyone, at any time, for any reason, in any genre, water it all down, and mash it all together into fantastically exciting neo-theo-sci-fi-tall-tales.
Thus, they moreover refer to The Apocalypse of Abraham, from somewhere between 70BC-150 AD, and The Book of Giants from circa the same time as 1 Enoch and Jubilees: a few centuries BC—see my book on 1 Enoch and The Apocryphal Nephilim and Giants: Encountering Nephilim and Giants in Extra-Biblical Texts.
It’s noted, “the origin of demons…when the Nephilim died, they didn’t go to heaven. They didn’t go to hell. At least not yet. But they became evil spirits. They became demons. This is why we have demons. Yeah.” Yet, that’s just part of the folklore from centuries, if not millennia, after the Torah. For a biblical view, please see my article Demons Ex Machina: What are Demons?
We’re told, “we have a situation where there’s Watchers under the Earth and demons…there is a couple of places where some of these Watchers get released early.” Basically, they’re mashing together biblical eschatology with cherry picked folklore.
We’re told, “I fully believe the antichrist is going to shed his own blood because what more perverse than Nephilim blood? And the reason that I think that the antichrist is Nephilim is because as we saw the punishment for the Watchers mating with humankind was to basically be bound in the abyss.”
Pray tell, where on Earth is the antichrist going to get Nephilim blood since the last of it was done away with at the flood?
See, pop-Nephilologists are all post-flood-Nephilologists and always begin by throwing God and His Word under the bus. God must have failed, must have missed a loophole that Peck managed to figure out and the antichrist (or his parents) will figure out, the flood must have been much of a waste, etc., etc., etc. since God got rid of them but they will come back (and/or already have).
Such is why post-flood Nephilologists have to invent un-biblical fantasy tall-tales about how Nephilim made it past the flood: such as Jubilees containing a quaint story about how post-flood, a recipe was found for how to make hot, fresh, right out of the oven Nephilim—God must have missed that.
It’s noted, “Satan is not bound in the abyss. Satan was not involved in this original 200 Watchers thing. Um he didn’t commit that sin, but apparently he must commit it in the future because he is bound for a thousand years in the abyss. It’s the same judgment that the watchers get.”
The, “200 Watchers thing” refer to that 1 Enoch places that very specific number on how many fell. Technically, those Watchers were incarcerated in Tartarus as per 2 Peter 2—which as per Greek mythology is the lowest place of the Abyss where the worse of the worse go.
The, “must” is speculation and an unfounded non-sequitur. One reason that, “Satan was not involved in” the Gen 6 affair is that Angels look just like human males and so could copulate with human women but he’s a Cherub rather than an Angel and apparently can’t do likewise. Also, Revelation 20 notes, “an angel…seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit [Abyss]…so that he might not deceive the nations any longer” and not so he can’t mate with humans any longer.
We’re told, “all throughout the Bible, the Antichrist is called son of predition: son of, it’s basically, I believe that he’s literally the son of Satan. I believe Satan commits this act one time to create the Antichrist” and then somehow the byproduct of Angels mating with humans is shifted over to the supposed byproduct of a Cherub allegedly mating with a human so that, “what’s more profane than Nephilim blood could there possibly be to defile the temple with?”
Thus, what God apparently missed is that He got rid of Nephilim just to have a Cherub create one post-flood.
Yet, it’s noted, “The Apocalypse of Abraham talks about him being in the garden as a Seraphim” but that’s another category error that violates the law of identity since Angels, Cherubim, and Seraphim are difference categories of being and Satan is a Cherub (Ezek 28).
As for, “are still any Nephilim genetics” the reply is, “There might be if there are any Nephilim genetics in anybody’s blood, it’s not, it’s minuscule to the point where like they can still get saved” but that’s just another way of implying that God missed that.
It’s actually a tragedy that a pastor is going along with neo-theo-sci-fi-tall-tales.
See my various books here—including some endorsed by Josh Peck and to include one in which I feature him Nephilim and Giants as per Pop-Researchers: A Comprehensive Consideration of the claims of I.D.E. Thomas, Chuck Missler, Dante Fortson, Derek Gilbert, Brian Godawa, Patrick Heron, Thomas Horn, Ken Johnson, L.A. Marzulli, Josh Peck, CK Quarterman, Steve Quayle, Rob Skiba, Gary Wayne, Jim Wilhelmsen, et al.
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