I chimed into the middle of a discussion on X when a certain Peter Scott-Morgan/@P_ScottMorgan replied thusly to someone:
The good book, you say?
Deuteronomy 20:17: “Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.”
Deuteronomy 7:1-2 “When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you—and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.”
I, Messianic Jewish/@JewMessianic on X, replied
What, on your worldview, would be wrong with any of that: which I have to ask since you illogically began with a conclusion, an implication that there’s something wrong with it but didn’t get around to THE most important part.
Peter Scott-Morgan
What’s ‘wrong’ with it? It’s called ‘genocide’. Look it up.
Messianic Jewish
I didn’t ask what’s wrong with it, I asked, “What, on your worldview, would be wrong with any of that” notice the qualifying term “on your worldview.”
Peter Scott-Morgan (appealing to X’s AI Grok for help)
It’s irrelevant what my worldview is. The worldview of civilised beings is that genocide is wrong.
Hey @grok, can you inform this person what the sixth of the Ten Commandments is in the Torah please?
Grok @grok
The sixth commandment in the Torah (Exodus 20:13) is “You shall not murder” (לֹא תִּרְצָח, lo tirtzach in Hebrew). This is distinct from killing in contexts like war or justice, focusing on unlawful murder.
Peter Scott-Morgan @P_ScottMorgan
Thanks @grok.
So if someone commanded you to kill people outside of warfare or the justice system, would following that instruction be wrong?
Messianic Jewish
Grok obliterated you on the ethical difference between killing & murder.
Your worldview is THE issue since it’s upon it that you merely assert, “The worldview of civilised beings is that genocide is wrong” as if that’s premised on a universal imperative from your worldview.
Peter Scott-Morgan
Check again you silly zealot:
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Grok @grok
Replying to @P_ScottMorgan @JewMessianic and 4 others
Yes, following such a command would be wrong, as it constitutes murder, which is prohibited under the Torah’s sixth commandment and aligns with broader ethical and legal principles against unlawful killing.
Messianic Jewish
Welcome to neo anti-intellectualism where it’s thus saith the infallible Grok.
Your worldview is THE issue since it’s upon it that you merely assert, “The worldview of civilised beings is that genocide is wrong” as if that’s premised on a universal imperative from your worldview.
Peter Scott-Morgan
Ok zealot.
Messianic Jewish
It’s ok to just say you realize you realized your worldview is a collapsed failure but that begs the question: why then, besides that it allows you to get away with everything, do you keep holding on to dogmatheism?
Peter Scott-Morgan
Dude – this was 2 months ago. Move on with your life.
Messianic Jewish
Is it a case of 2 more months and you’re still literally incapable of getting your worldview to take the very first systematic critical thinking step so you pull an agumentum ad chronologicum?
Does that mean that you’re no longer making the assertions you made to me?
That brought the discussion to an end as no more replies were forthcoming.
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