The Faith Quest YouTube channel posted a vid titled Rob Skiba PROVES Sam Shamoun Wrong on Genesis 6? | Who are the NEPHILIM?
I already posted a review of the vid Nephilim Giants: Rob Skiba, Sam Shamoun, Doug Wilson, Peter Gentry, and Jeff Zaremskyv.
This time around, I’m posting a discussion I had in the comments section with a certain @conandrum74 who began with:
Sam is wrong also. Yes the giants of Canaan were offspring of Anak, but he wrongly assumes that he was perfect in his generations like Noah. If Anak had giants that means that he was a human hybrid because….
4 There were giants …when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, …
Giants are the result of human gene corruption!!
Also Israelites were shocked to see them in Canaan. Why so shocked if it was a common occurrence in our human gene pool? Wouldn’t there be giants in Egypt? Wouldn’t there be giants in the Israelite population? Obviously not, obviously humans avoided them and there was enmity between them.
Rob Skiba is the only one with the correct perspective. And Jude 6 confirms the story.
I, @KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker, replied:
It’s tragically generic to merely assert, “the giants of Canaan were offspring of Anak” since 1) Canaanites are listed as their own people group and 2) what’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles? What’s your usage? Do those two usages agree?
See, without those answers, no one can know to what you’re referring by “Anak had giants” and, “Giants are the result of human gene corruption!!” etc.
So, “Sam said that the giants of Anak were humans” well, again, I don’t know what you mean but every reliable indication is that Anakim were 100% human.
It’s a non-sequitur to conclude that they must have been, “human HYBRIDS” since, according to you, they were, “not also in Egypt or Babylon.”
“Why did they appear after the flood?” is the wrong question: the right questions are:
1) to whom are you referring by “they”?
2) did they appear after the flood?
To what are you referring by generically asserting, “Israelites were shocked to see them.”
Rob’s un-biblical Nephilology contradicts the Bible five times (Genesis 7:7, 23; Hebrews 11:7; 1 Peter 3:20; and 2 Peter 2:5) by asserting a survival of Nephilim past the flood, past God, so that God failed, couldn’t get the job done, must have missed the loophole that Rob managed to figure out, and the flood was much of a waste: does that matter to you?
As for, “There may still be today some humans that carry Nephilim dna. Possible” is just saying, “There may still be today some humans that carry Nephilim dna if God failed, missed a loophole, the flood was much of a waste, etc., etc., etc.”
@conandrum74
There were tall men in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare tall children to them, the same became mighty tall men which were of old, tall men of renown. This is the position of Sam. I love Sam, but his position on this is ridiculous. And so is the position of the rabbi What’s the point of God making this statement if it’s a non event. God himself through Moses says that they survived the days of Noah without specifying how. God says they survived, so who are you to argue whether God failed or didn’t fail. It’s just a fact.
@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker
I’m unsure that ignoring most of what I noted is helpful.
You (and/or Sam?) began by manipulating God’s Word by artificially inserting, “tall men” into His inspired word.
Also, I asked, “what’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word ‘giants’ in English Bibles? What’s your usage? Do those two usages agree?” and you (and/or Sam?) seemed to reply to all three with two words, “tall people” and then, “tall children.”
Fascinatingly, I’ve asked those key questions to hundreds of people who go on and on (and on and on [and on and on]) about “giants” and 99.999999% can’t even reply—and three that did got it wrong.
But notice what you (and/or Sam?) did: you merely swapped the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” with the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “tall” so that still begs the question and doesn’t help at all.
Bottom line is that you (and/or Sam?) can’t even prove that they were even generically vaguely subjectively “tall.”
You (and/or Sam?) just asserted on the WORLD WIDE web that, “Moses says that they survived the days of Noah…God says they survived” so can you please quote and cite that (but not by merely quoting Num 13:33 uncritically but reading the whole chapter and the next one first, please).
Also, since you think, “Moses says that they survived the days of Noah…God says they survived…It’s just a fact” why did God inspired FIVE times that they’re not on any list of who did survive (Genesis 7:7, 23; Hebrews 11:7; 1 Peter 3:20; and 2 Peter 2:5)?
Well, that ended it since no more replies were forthcoming.
I posted this since it’s a picture perfect dime a dozen example of how pop-Nephilologists (mis) communicate: they have a generic party line and can’t support it.
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