To the 3 of 7 Project YouTube channel’s video Nephilim, Giants, Angels & Humans | Unexplained Bible Accounts, a certain @tonywiggins8073 commented
It’s a lie! God does NOT do Angel Porn! Angels did not sleep with women & make them their wives! There’s Angel kind and human kind! Separate kinds! Spirit Kind and flesh kind! Scripture says things procreate kind after kind.
Listen to what you are saying! Gods problem was with MAN! It says man like 5 times. “I shall destroy MAN” etc.. God’s problem was with man NOT the angels! Plus it say giants were after the flood! So why would there be giants after the flood if God destroyed them all. And giants here are warriors they took wives like spoils of war, and they were well known! Nephilim are just a HUMAN race of tall ppl. Jus like we have today! There is a tribe in Africa of tall ppl! Some research has show that how wealthy a nation is has tall people like Sweden.
You have to go back to Gen 5 when it discusses the genealogy of man! The sons of God here is the Godly line of Seth and daughters are of the ungodly line of Cain!
God did NOT cap mans age at 120 yrs. God gave man 120 yrs before His spirit left the Earth! 120 yrs before he unleashed His wrath from His Flood that killed all mankind (save 8)! And that 120 yrs also gave Noah time to complete the Ark. Scripture says we have 70 yrs and 80 yrs if we are strong. Psalms 90:10
Jesus himself says in Matthew & Luke that angels do not know sex OR marriage.
Scripture says scripture can’t be broken!
Book of Enoch is a pseudepigrapha which literally means book of false writings. They used the names of famous people in Israel’s history for the names of the titles. The real authors are unknown.
1 Tim 4
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.
Angel Porn is a demonic doctrine so don’t get sucked into it!
I, @kenammi355, replied
“Angels did not sleep with women & make them their wives!”
Job 38:7, as one example, shows us that “sons of God” can refer to non-human beings (which the LXX has as “Angelos”).
Jude and 2 Peter 2 combined refer to a sin of Angels, place that sin to pre-flood days and correlate it to sexual sin which occurred after the Angels, “left their first estate,” after which they were incarcerated, and there’s only a one-time fall/sin of Angels in the Bible.
The original, traditional, and majority view among the earliest Jewish and Christians commentators, starting in BC days, was the “Angel view” as I proved in my book, “On the Genesis 6 Affair’s Sons of God: Angels or Not? A Survey of Early Jewish and Christian Commentaries Including Notes on Giants and the Nephilim.”
“There’s Angel kind and human kind! Separate kinds!…Scripture says things procreate kind after kind.”
Angels are always described as looking like human males, we were created “a little lower” than them, and we can reproduce with them so, by definition, we’re of the same basic “kind.”
“Spirit Kind and flesh kind!”
Not the case since Angels are always described as looking like human males, performing physical actions, and without indication that such isn’t their ontology.
“Gods problem was with MAN! It says man like 5 times. ‘I shall destroy MAN’ etc..”
Indeed, that’s the Bible’s main focus.
“God’s problem was with man NOT the angels!”
You’re neglecting the premise (Gen 6:1-4) for why Gods problem was with MAN! I” and neglecting that Angels are referred to as man/men.
“Plus it say giants were after the flood! So why would there be giants after the flood if God destroyed them all.”
The key questions are:
What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles?
What’s your usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants”?
Do those two usages agree?
“Nephilim are…tall”
What makes you assert that and who cares–I’m “tall” compared to my wife.
“The sons of God here is the Godly line of Seth and daughters are of the ungodly line of Cain!”
That’s a late-comer of a view based on myth (since there’s zero indication of a “Godly line of Seth and…ungodly line of Cain!”), it’s based on prejudice (since, for example, you’re condemning an ENTIRE “line” based on three sins committed by two people), and which only causes more problems than it solves (so, more than zero) such as why only exclusively males from the “Godly line of Seth” and only exclusively females from the “ungodly line of Cain!”? (FYI: the Angel view explains why it was exclusively males on one side of the equation and exclusively females on the other).
Also, you’re teaching that the “Godly line of Seth” weren’t actually Godly since they were such terrible sinners that their sin served as the premise for hte flood.
“Jesus himself says in Matthew & Luke that angels do not know sex OR marriage.”
That’s a mere assertion and Jesus never said any such thing.
1 Enoch is Bible contradicting folklore from centuries, if not millennia, after the Torah, see my book, “In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch.”
@tonywiggins8073
And Jesus answering said unto them, *Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?* For when they shall rise from the dead, *they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.*
Job 38:7 is indeed referring to spirit realm of angels. That doesn’t make it so that they slept or took human wives. Humans are also referred to as Sons of God! Luke 3:21-38. Working backwards of The Genealogy of Christ it refers to Adam vs38 as a Son of God. “the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.” This is the human sons of God referring to in Gen 6. There is also another translation or debate that it could also mean the “son of the gods” meaning pagan gods. Those ppl (humans) who worshipped pagan gods (plural) took women or daughters of men! We (humans) are also called the sons and daughters of God!
Psalms 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
Gal 3:26
Berean Standard Bible
You are all **sons of God**through faith in Christ Jesus.
Berean Lit Bible
For you are all *sons of God* through faith in Christ Jesus.
KJV
For ye are all the *children of God* by faith in Christ Jesus.
NKJV
For you are all **sons of God**through faith in Christ Jesus.
2 Cor 6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be **my sons and daughters**, saith the Lord Almighty.
1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the *sons of God* therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
There are plenty of scripture where we (humans who are made in God’s image) are listed as sons and even daughters of God. We are listed waaaaay more times as *Sons of God* than the angels! You should have checked God’s word and the proper way to interpret God’s word before you wrote a twisted book trying to explain a lie! Now you’ve told all these ppl lies and most will believe it. But God will hold us accountable for what we know and in it teaching correctly His truths!
@kenammi355
Recall that I noted that “Jesus himself says in Matthew & Luke that angels do not know sex OR marriage” was, “a mere assertion and Jesus never said any such thing” and it still is and ever will be. See, you made a generic all-encompassing statement, “angels do not know sex OR marriage” but Jesus was very nuanced having included qualifying terms that you ignored so you misrepresented Him. Just as you quoted it, by missed it, He spoke of, “angels which are in heaven,” and said nothing about “sex,” so He was referring to the loyal ones which is why those who did marry are considered sinners, having, “left their first estate” in order to do so, as Jude put it.
I’ve no idea what, “spirit realm of angels” means. But you admit that the, “sons of God” in Job 38:7 are Angels but then wrote the non-sequitur, “That doesn’t make it so that they slept or took human wives” well, of course not. But what it means is that we can then apply what you admitted to the Gen 6 affair: just as was done by the majority of the earliest writers. Indeed, “Humans are also referred to as Sons of God!” and as per your admission, so are Angels so that’s a non-issue since it’s not about statistics but about usages and the distinction between “sons of God” and “daughters of men” is not only of differing phraseology but about what makes you merely assert that only exclusively males who, “worshipped pagan gods (plural) took” only exclusively female, “women or daughters of men!” The Angel view explains why only strictly males on one side of the equation and only strictly females on the other.
As for your concluding ungraceful worldly failed attempt a mind-reading rant, you should be deeply ashamed of yourself and repent since when you write, “You should have checked God’s word and the proper way to interpret God’s word…” you’re tragically ignorant: I wrote a whole chapter just about “sons of God” in my book, “What Does the Bible Say About Giants and Nephilim? A Styled Giantology and Nephilology.”
As for, “trying to explain a lie!” what makes you merely assert that it’s a lie?
You then merely assert that I’m a liar so what makes you come to that fallacious conclusion?
Please don’t lose whatever witness you may have by going on an incoherent rant that discredits you more than your faulty arguments do: two wrongs don’t make a right.
That brought the discussion to an end as no more replies were forthcoming.
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