Hereinafter is a specific discussion I had with a bloke with whom I had another bit of discourse at video Stephen Hawking has found God!!!
A certain “D mo” commented:
“Listen up everybody there it is NO GOD…. god.” (ellipses in original).
I replied—Ken Ammi:
“Friend, since you claim to know that there is no God then please prove it.”
I made the point of asking because I have a list of some Atheists who positively affirm God’s non-existence (without evidence, of course).
D mo replied:
“Ken Ammi primitive evolving mythological ideas that live in books just like the Three Bears Goldilocks troll under the bridge Cinderella Peter Rabbit Bugs Bunny Daffy Duck Foghorn Leghorn Allah Jesus and 4000 others that’s listed in the encyclopedia of deities created by man. You prove that he exists and don’t use science watch the fantasies come out of your head and through your mouth.”
Ken Ammi:
“Friend, let us review: you made an assertion claiming to possess positive knowledge, I asked you to prove it, you cannot do so—but I realize that your worldview fails you thus, you can no longer honestly make that assertion.
‘primitive evolving mythological ideas’ this entails a logical genetic fallacy.
‘books just like the Three Bears Goldilocks troll under the bridge Cinderella Peter Rabbit Bugs Bunny Daffy Duck Foghorn Leghorn Allah Jesus…’ this entails a category error.
‘You prove that he exists and don’t use science’ this entails you seeking to sidestep the fact that you made an assertion that you cannot justify and also sets up a subjective criteria.
I would love to keep going round and round but as it is, due to time constraints, I only devote one day to replying to comments and it is taking me hours to do so.
I am wondering why any of this is an issue for you. If you really believe that we are temporarily and accidentally existing bio-organisms then what does it matter how we interpret random bio-chemical reactions within our brains?
If theism is a Darwinian survival mechanism then why do you seek to decrease the survivability of others?
How does your worldview provide you a premise for even holding others to standards of truth, ethics, logic or for you to condemn anything?”
D mo:
“Ken Ammi you’re quoting Carl Sagan I love the way you use science to try to prove fairy tales.”
Ken Ammi:
“I would love to keep going round and round but as it is, due to time constraints, I only devote one day to replying to comments and it is taking me hours to do so. I am wondering why any of this is an issue for you.
If you really believe that we are temporarily and accidentally existing bio-organisms then what does it matter how we interpret random bio-chemical reactions within our brains? If theism is a Darwinian survival mechanism then why do you seek to decrease the survivability of others?
How does your worldview provide you a premise for even holding others to standards of truth, ethics, logic or for you to condemn anything?”
D mo:
“Ken Ammi primitive evolving ideas that exist and books. Dmo out……..” (ellipses in original).
Ken Ammi:
“Well friend, at last we can agree that yours are primitive evolving ideas and that you are out of them.”
And indeed, he was “out” of replies and he/she and/or it never did so again.
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