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Are there a godly line of Seth and a wicked line of Cain? | True Freethinker

I thought to post this since, as far as I can tell, it is common knowledge that there is a godly line of Seth and a wicked line of Cain. However, I have come to realize that common knowledge are those things that everybody knows even though nobody known how anybody knows.

Not only do people assert that there are a godly line of Seth and a wicked line of Cain but direct us to Genesis chaps 4-5 for proof.

Thus, here is a succinct review: I will not quote both chapters but only the most seemingly relevant points.

Chapter 4: firstly, God rebukes Cain for his attitude, “Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?” and assures him “If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.”

After Cain murders Abel, God tells him, “now art thou cursed from the earth” but when Cain feels the burden of his curse and states, “My punishment is greater than I can bear” and “every one that findeth me shall slay me,” God, “set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.”

Then Cain builds a city and we are then told of Cain’s descendants, some of who dwell in tents and have cattle, some were musicians who handle the harp and organ, some are metalsmiths who work with brass and iron. The only untoward occurrence is that Lamech committed murder.

The chapter ends with that Seth begat Enos and “then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.”


Chapter 5: most of it is genealogy, we are told “Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him,” Lamech “begat a son: And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed,” and that’s all folks.

Now, these are two different Lamechs as Cain’s supposed wicked line and Seth’s supposed holy line both contain names in common and, in fact, both lines include people with “el” in the names which is a reference to El-ohim.

This is not in the least bit impressive within the context of supposedly feuding lines of godly and wicked people. But, that is what the Bible states on the matter and nothing more.


Worse than the claim of forbidden pre-flood intermarriages between these lines is the claim of a wicked post-flood Cainite lineage—whole rule the world or what have you.

Noah descends from Seth. We do not know his wife’s lineage. If she was a Sethite then Shem, Ham and Japheth are full-blooded Sethites. If not then they are well, what are they?
You see, it is important to get away from the false dichotomy that the only possibilities are Sethites or Cainites. The fact is that Adam and Eve had many, many children and so if they were not Sethites, they could be of various other lineages other than that of Cain.

Yet, let us play the dichotomy game for a moment: if she was Cainite then Shem, Ham and Japheth would have been half Sethites and half Cainite.

We also do not have the lineages of the wives of Shem, Ham and Japheth which leads to the same issues: they could have been of various lineages but playing the game, the descendants for Shem, Ham and Japheth would have been half Sethite and half Cainite.

Now, if Noah’s wife or his daughters-in-law were Cainites well then, that would certainly account for post-flood Cainites.
However, that would actually not seem possible since if they were Cainites and the whole Genesis affair issue was Sethite males marrying and reproducing with Cainites then guess what? Noah and/or his sons also married Cainite “daughters of men” which would defeat the purpose of the flood in terms of it supposedly being meant to drown away half Sethites and half Cainites.

Yet, God specifically preserves Noah, his wife, their sons and their sons’ wives. Thus, they were not Cainites but Sethites of something else and so there are no post-flood Cainites. I know that this demolishes about 1,001 conspiracy theories but such as the facts.


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