Word and Revelation of Esdras

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Apocalypse of Adam

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Bertrand L. Comparet on Satanic and Nephilim bloodlines-seedlines

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…Genesis 4:1. “And Adam knew his wife, and she conceived and bare Cain.” Notice that what is not said is more significant that what is said, the Bible nowhere says Adam begat Cain…there are

literal children of Satan surviving in the world today…

—Bertrand L. Comparet

With this series, which I herein continue, I will consider Bertrand L. Comparet, A.B., J.D.’s The Cain/Satanic Seed Line. You can find the series on Comparet here.

For some reason after referencing the flood he goes backwards in time and refers to Genesis 6 and the intermingling of the sons of God Angles and human women. He notes that “double race mixing took place…the rulers of the pre Adamic races and the fallen angels took wives of the fair Adamic women.”
He states that “male descendants of Adam were not allowed, by Yahweh’s law, to marry anybody but the daughters descended from Adam” which is something he simply invented as biblically all humans are from Adam (and Eve).

He notes that sons of God “beni-ha-elohim, also means sons of magistrates or mighty men of the earth and angels” and he applies both definitions as per the above reference to the rulers of the pre Adamic races. He then uses this to push his “racial line” racism and asserts that this is the reason that such mixing is “spoken of with disapproval” which, again, is something he invented. Interestingly, he tell sus that “the beni-ha-elohim are evidently those of the pre Adamic darker races and the fallen angels” and that “details of this event are found in the book of Enoch.” Well, that apocryphal texts knows nothing of pre Adamites or darker races having anything to do with it in fact, it defines the sons of God as “Watcher” fallen Angels, see Billy Meier, OT III, Gen IV & 1 Enoch IV.

Bertrand L. Comparet states, “Here we have the spreading of the satanic bloodline. Genesis chapter 6 goes on to trace many of these descendants of the fallen angels” for example, “southeast of the Dead Sea…there are these various people with the satanic blood in them.”
So apparently, Comparet wants to argue that Noah and family were pure Adamite and “the flood wiped out the mongrelized Adamites” but the flood did not wipe out the mongrelized offspring of Angels mixed with humans.

Recall my identification of Satan a Cherub as per Ezekiel 28. Well, Comparet references Isaiah (chap 14) and Ezekiel and rightly notes that they refer to “a king or a prince” yet, “in language, which could not possibly apply, to anybody except Satan.” This is a complex and detailed issue about which you can read in Fallen angel? Just what is lucifer (contra Jim Brayshaw).

In any case, Bertrand L. Comparet utterly misreads the texts and claims that “this indicates that at some time or other, Satan had incarnated in the form of these various kings.” He then offers up some undercooked red herring by telling us “Don’t think this is so impossible because many times the Old Testament tells of these angels appearing in very solid form.” Well, that is because we have no indication that Angles are anything but solid in form: they appear to inhabit that of which we would think of as glorified bodies just as Jesus had post resurrection. They are physical but can, as we may term it, traverse dimensions to which we have no current access. He also claims that Angels, “came and talked with Abraham on several occasions” but, of course, offer no quotations or citations because this is biblically unknown.

Comparet then claims that “Yahshua [Jesus] plainly says, in a number of places, that the devil has children, not merely followers” and appeals to some of the parables. Well, I have dealt with these in detail and they pertain to actions and not genetics. For details, see Serpent Seed of Satan article in a Christian Apologetics journal.

Comparet writes “Speaking to the Pharisees, who as you know were Jews, Yahshua said in Matthew 12:34…O generation of vipers…Matthew 23:29-35…Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!…Ye serpents, ye genema (ye offspring, children) of vipers…” Since he is an anti-Semitic racist Comparet focuses on the juicy parts but neglects to point out that Jesus does affirm that the Pharisees were of Abraham but that they were committing sinful Satanic actions. This is why he refers to them as hypocrites as that denotes actions, “I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me” (John 8:37): their genetics are Abrahamic but their actions are not. Comparet actually notes that Jesus “called them hypocrites and they were” but he ignores this action based statement in favor of his genetics based theory.

Comparet then claims, “Throughout the Bible it records the two seed lines, Yahweh and Lucifer’s. The Bible makes no reference as to what your religious point of view may be; it is talking about literal descendants.” Actually, the Bible makes many references to “religious point of view” from commanding that the ways of the Pagan not be followed to Paul urging us to “watch” both our “life and doctrine” (1 Timothy 4:16) and many more such statements. Comparet just wants to make it about genetics.

We then run into another error into which Comparet falls by claiming that the Bible does not teach that which it teaches. He write, “Romans 8:16 tells us, ‘The spirit itself bears witness, that we are the children of God’. The word children there, the Greek word teknon, means one born a child, not adopted.” Wait, so now God had sex with someone and His wife had children (is Comparet a Mormon?). He follows directly with “Nothing is more fallacious than this church doctrine about being adopted children of Yahweh…Only the churchmen are stupid enough for that.”

I wonder if being adopted children of God is a church doctrine because the Bible states, “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name” well, we do not need to “become” something which we are already at birth due to genetics. In fact, the statement goes on to note, “Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God” (John 1:12-13). And what about Ephesians 1:5 which states, “Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will”?

Thus, according to Comparet “Nothing is more fallacious” and “stupid” than that which the Bible actually teaches. He had claimed that “the Greek word teknon, means one born a child, not adopted” but that was when commenting on Romans 8:16, “The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God.” Yet the key Ephesian term is huiothesia (Strong’s G5206) and means adoption as in adoption.

Bertrand L. Comparet next, and again, gets close to the biblical facts of the matter in writing, “the existence of these two seed lines. I John 2:29 tells us, ‘If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that does righteousness is born of Him’…I John 5:9-10 ‘Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.’” Need I emphasize the emphasis? It is about actions, “does righteousness…commit sin…cannot sin.”

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Prophetic Revelation’s Richard Gan on Genesis 3 as serpent seed tale

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…the doctrine of the Serpent Seed
(or the doctrine of the Original Sin) is neither an allegory, a myth, a legend,

nor a fable, but is based on literal historical facts…

—Richard Gan

Herein we continue considering Rev. Richard Gan’s article The Doctrine of the Serpent Seed and The Doctrine of the Original Sin… which derives from his 1998 AD book, “The Serpent Seed THE ORIGINAL SIN.” You can find the whole series here.

As a technical point, note that Gan writes that “God commanded every species of life…to bring forth seed after its own kind…commanded each species of living things to bring forth its own kind (Gen.1:11,24).”
Just as Gan correlates the doctrine of the Serpent Seed with the doctrine of the original sin, he correlates species with kinds. However, there are various scientific definitions of “species” and the biblical concept is that of kinds (generally, a reference to organisms that can mate with each other).

Gan notes that “to hybridizeis to go against God’s commandment and law of reproduction.” This, he claims ultimately leads to “the hybridizing of Mankind with the Serpent-kind.”

Richard Gan refers to “EVERY TREE that was good for food for Adam to eat (or partake)” and states:

Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. The carnal minded people would give these two trees a carnal interpretation that they were two real literal natural fruit trees.
But if the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was a real literal tree, it would certainly be contradictory to God’s own words in Genesis 2:9 if its fruits could not be eaten — “And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food” See! Every tree bearing fruits was good for food!

Let us pause here to note that he is again aggrandizing himself up over and above “The carnal minded people.” Now, he claims that reading Genesis 3 as is contradicts Genesis 2. To his point about the trees: this seems to be much ado about nothing. Genesis 2 noted that indeed, “out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil…And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”

Thus, there is no contradiction as every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food is allowable except for one. For example, I like every vegetable except for celery so can someone claim that I said that “I like every vegetable”? No, because there was more to it than that, more context and context determined meaning. Thus, what I said could be paraphrased as “I do not like every vegetable since I do not like celery but I do like all other vegetables.

Image from Richard Gan’s article/book

Gan the asserts that there is a cover up and it is right there in the Bible, “something other than natural trees as they did not grow out of the ground (cf. Gen.2:9b – “the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil”, a phrase interposed to hide a truth.)…God’s way of hiding Truth whilst revealing It [sic].”
He then claims that “This particular expression could only be understood by analyzing…the meanings of the following terminologies: “Tree of Life”, “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil”, “In the midst of the garden”, “Eat” and “Fruit”.”
I have already been down this road with serpent seed of Satan theorists thus, I will direct the interested reader to the article Disambiguating the serpent seedline of Satan theory in Genesis 3 part 1 and particularly part 2. Here is a taste of Gan’s take on it, “the human body is the garden, and in the midst of the garden is the sexual reproductive organ.”

In short, they claim that since terms such as tree, fruit, seed, etc. have more than one meaning—as do all words in all languages—Genesis 3 can be reinterpreted as these terms also refer to sexuality. Simply stated, it is inappropriate to simply pick and choose definitions and sting them together as per one’s presuppositions. Rather, context determines meaning and Genesis 3 elucidates its own context.

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Prophetic Revelation

As has been elucidated in various articles found with the Serpent Seed category: the Bible does speak the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman. Yet, it does not, in any way, relate seed of the serpent to Cain being the result of Eve having sex with Satan.

In fact, since the serpent seed of Satan theory is not biblical, promulgators, such as those listed below, have different ideas as to who the seedlines / bloodlines are.

Serpent and Dragon in Philo of Alexandria, part 3

Herein we continue, from part 1, part 2, providing quotations and citations on Serpent and Dragon (within a Satanic context) from Philo of Alexandria (20 BC-50 AD). The fuller complete result consists of quotations of those sections within the text that refer to Angels, Cherubim, Seraphim, Devil, Satan, demons, serpent and dragon. The point is not to elucidate these references but to provide relevant partial quotations and citations. See my section on Angels here, Cherubim and Seraphim here, Satan here and Demons here.

Allegorical Interpretation, III
XIX And God said to the woman, “What is this that thou hast done?” And she said, “The serpent beguiled me and I did eat.”

XX But take notice that the man says that the woman gave it to him; but that the woman does not say that the serpent gave it to her, but that he beguiled her; for it is the especial property of the outward sense to give, but it is the attribute of pleasure which is of a diversified and serpent-like nature to deceive and to beguile.

XXI “And the Lord God said to the serpent, Because thou hast done this thing, thou art cursed above all cattle and every beats of the field; upon thy breast and upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life. And I will put enmity in the midst between thee and between the woman, and in the midst between thy seed and between her seed, He shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his Heel.” What is the reason why he curses the serpent without allowing him to make any defence, when in another place he commands that “both the parties between whom there is any dispute shall be Heard”…she confessed that she had erred through the deceitfulness of serpent-like and diversified pleasure. Why, therefore, when the woman had said, “The serpent deceived Me,” did he forbid the putting of the question to the serpent whether it was he who had thus deceived her; and why did he thus appoint him to be condemned without trial and without defence?…But the serpent, that is pleasure, is of itself evil.

XXIII You see that God also curses the serpent without allowing it to make any defence…Do you not see that the Creator has made some plants capable of cultivation and useful and salutary, and others incapable of cultivation, wild, pernicious, the causes of diseases and destruction; and animals too of similar variety of character, as beyond all question is the serpent, of which we are now speaking; for he is a destructive and deadly animal by his intrinsic nature. And as the serpent affects man, so does pleasure too affect the soul; in reference to which fact the serpent has been compared to pleasure.

XXXV And the Lord God said to the serpent, “Thou art cursed over every creature and over all the beasts of the field.”

XXXVIII “Upon thy breast and upon thy belly shalt thou Go.” For passion works around these parts, the breast and the belly, like a serpent in his hole; when pleasure has its efficient causes and its subject-matter, then it is in operation around the belly and the parts adjacent to the belly; and when it has not these efficient causes and this subject-matter, then it is occupied about the breast which is the seat of anger, for lovers of pleasure when deprived of their pleasures become embittered by their anger.

LXXXVIII And the expression, “And thou eatest of the tree of which alone I commanded thee that thou shouldst not Eat,” is equivalent to saying, You made a covenant with wickedness, which you ought to have repelled with all your strength. On this account, “Cursed art thou;” not, cursed is the Earth for thy works. What, now, is the reason of this? That serpent, pleasure, which is an irrational elevation of the soul, this is intrinsically accursed in its own nature; and being such, attaches itself only to the wicked man, and to no good man.

In the next segment, we will consider Philo’s On Husbandry, On the Life of Moses and On the Migration of Abraham.

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As has been elucidated in various articles found with the Serpent Seed category: the Bible does speak the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman. Yet, it does not, in any way, relate seed of the serpent to Cain being the result of Eve having sex with Satan.

In fact, since the serpent seed of Satan theory is not biblical, promulgators, such as those listed below, have different ideas as to who the seedlines / bloodlines are.

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